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Democrats wait for tragedy to enact weapon legislation
Examiner.com ^ | 5-29-2009 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 05/29/2009 9:59:05 PM PDT by Danae

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To: Danae

Very few NRA members subscribe to the magazine, “American’s First Freedom”. My son gets the magazine and it clearly shows the NRA in fights the other magazines or the leftist media don’t show.

Gun range protection.
Employee CCW in cars protection.
Hunter’s rights.
CCW laws on the state and local.
Five lawsuits because of Heller.
Katrina victim lawsuits.
Eddie Eagle and the lawsuits to keep it in schools.
National park CCW law.
The NRA has a average of sixty cases a year in legal assistance for members.

And lazy nonmembers will still ask what the NRA has done lately.


101 posted on 05/30/2009 6:17:21 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Danae

Four million NRA members out of 76 million gunowners.

Gunowners are too busy watching “American Idol” and when they do wake up it will be too late and they will ask “How come the NRA didn’t do anything”. And the NRA will ask how come you didn’t join when it could have been easy.


102 posted on 05/30/2009 6:23:16 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Safrguns

That will not matter...

But it will be something interesting to see...unfortunately...


103 posted on 05/30/2009 6:25:08 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Crim

Spare me the stuff on katrina...it was local cops who took peoples guns....not the NG....


You are partailly correct...And the NG did not participate in the gun confiscation operations in the aftermath of Katrina...The local NO cops were in the background for most of that as well...

They came in with outside jurisdictions to do most of the gun grab...CHiPs, and other organizations to do the visible dirty work...


104 posted on 05/30/2009 6:30:26 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Danae
They are waiting until there is some national level tragedy, the loss of life involving firearms, to introduce and then pass legislation banning guns.

Morons. Banning guns is NOT going to stop people from dying in a *national tragedy*.

Look at how many shootings have happened in gun free zones to begin with. Banning guns certainly didn't stop anyone who wanted to shoot up a mall, or a school.

Those who would commit such crimes will get the guns anyway and don't care about gun bans, except to be glad that they can go in and not risk getting stopped because they know that everyone else is unarmed.

That's why they shoot up gun free zones, where guns are banned.

105 posted on 05/30/2009 6:31:16 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Talisker
What on earth does a microscopic percentage of people committing an extraordinarily rare crime have anything whatever to do with the criminalization and seizure of the guns of sixty million law abiding citizens? The very scale of this fraud is utterly insane.

That sure puts it in perspective.

106 posted on 05/30/2009 6:32:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Boucheau; ought-six; Crim; Old Sarge; darkwing104
America is/was the greatest country in human history—but it isn’t MY country.

Oh? So what is your country?

For socialism/communism/slavery, nothing. Best of luck to everyone else—I’m lookin’ out for mine at that point. That’s all I’ll have time for.

Just the kind of people we need to make America great. do I need the /s tag?

If you're still on American soil, leave, we don't like traitors. And don't let the door hit you....

If you're not, why are you on a conservative, pro-America forum like FR? Why don't you go back to DU where you belong?

107 posted on 05/30/2009 6:44:22 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Danae; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...



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108 posted on 05/30/2009 6:45:28 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Still Thinking
They are waiting until there is some national level tragedy, the loss of life involving firearms, to introduce and then pass legislation banning guns.

That sounds familiar.


109 posted on 05/30/2009 8:02:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Boucheau
It's very typical of cowards to project their cowardice onto others.

Don't worry, we're plenty used to it. Non-cowards deal with this phenomenon all their lives.

110 posted on 05/30/2009 8:03:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: stevie_d_64

Yep...and the result was a big stinkin lawsuit and a new clear law that forbids gun confiscations under the same circumstances....if THEY try it again it’s they who will be the criminals...

IIRC..Tenn just passed a simlur law...


111 posted on 05/30/2009 8:04:39 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Renegade

“Ditto! There are many others who will defend the right to bear arms with their lives .”

And the everwelming majority of them currently wear the uniform of the US military....they are ALLREADY doin it...


112 posted on 05/30/2009 8:08:09 AM PDT by Crim
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To: RWB Patriot

“I wonder if those who thought 9/11 was an inside job would feel the same about any such incident that led to the banning of firearms.”

Gah...I litterally spent YEARS chasing these assholes around the internet having this very same argument.....they were saying the same exact things about Bush that many now say about Obama...the same very same things...

There will be a “flase flag event” generated to create domestic crisis...

Elections will be suspended...

He’s going to declare himself president for life...

Martial law will be declared...

The American people will be declared terrorists..

The army will come disarm you and put you in camps...

*bangs head on keyboard*

bqliu3hkjbre2uyf292h.bfe;uyw;oe2b2.,beq!!!!!!!

*ouch*

Funny...they just missed a prime opportunity to do that same thing with the swine flu....

Wow...didnt happen...


113 posted on 05/30/2009 8:20:18 AM PDT by Crim
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To: chainsaw

“It will not be a citizen soldier. It will be Obama’s National Police Force. His Nazi brown shirts. And more likely his ACORN organization that he funded with 3.6 billion dollars of stimulus funds.”

*sigh*

That you alex?


114 posted on 05/30/2009 8:22:47 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Travis McGee

Gee...a guy selling books to people who think the govt is out to get them...how original...

http://oneheartbooks.com/resources.html

Alex Jones has you beat by over twenty years...

I would remind you that McVeigh wasnt born from talk radio...he was born from the conspiracy industry.

He bombed a day care center without remorse.


115 posted on 05/30/2009 8:28:39 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
There is a difference now, though. Our country is being run by a leftist president and a statist Congress full of Democrats pushing through as much society-damaging crap as they can before they get voted out. They remember 1994 and are hell-bent on getting their pet socialist wet dreams passed.

It's a different climate now. A dangerously different climate.

116 posted on 05/30/2009 8:36:19 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: Boucheau

This reply is to both Boucheau and Crim. Your discussion is one I have with myself almost every day. Your argument is an example of idealism meeting reality. You know, I am the most law-abiding woman there is. I’ll return two cents extra change if it’s inadvertently given to me. However, I am changing my thinking. To paraphrase a well-known “woman,” for the first time in my adult life I’m willing to break the law and count on not being found out. Yes, I’d carry my S&W pistol into a park even if against the law. Lots of dead women have been found in those parks. Yes, I’d lie to the police if the purpose is gun confiscation.

Boucheau, I think that your very argument shows how America has gotten to this sorry position. We’re sucker punched every single day, but other than trying to address things lawfully, our only recourse is to take up arms against our government. Like you, I don’t see us doing that. Perhaps it’s because the enemy is WITHIN and is our own citizenry. Foreign invaders would be easier to defeat. We’ve already passed so many “tipping points” that there aren’t many left. We’re frogs and the boiling water has almost killed us.

As a student, I was often puzzled by the inaction of Nazi Germany’s Christians and good citizens. I thought that they were some sort of aberration and that type of thing could NEVER happen again. Well, now I see EXACTLY how it happened.


117 posted on 05/30/2009 8:40:29 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: 3catsanadog

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/14/AR2008121401815.html

We also didnt have the heller ruling or even the liberal as hell 9th circuit rulling afirming heller...

You dont think they are running polls weekly on issues such as this?

Support for gun control is at an all time low....even after many new tragedies...

I was just at my local gun shop the other day to pick up a new grip....guns are flying off the shelves....even at huge price increases....

Congressional dems arent going anywhere near the issue...Obama and holder be damned...

They are craven little cowards who only care about re-election...and they havent forgotten 94’

The next round of elections is a mere 18 months away...

They didnt even have the will to vote down the carry of concealed weapons in national parks when their entire base was screaming and writing letters and blog articles...

They arent going to ban shit.

They have allready lost several rounds...such as banning the re-sale of brass...

having the desire...and having the will and means to enforce that desire are two different things...


118 posted on 05/30/2009 8:52:01 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Danae
Waiting for the next dance to begin...


119 posted on 05/30/2009 8:55:13 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Danae

Piker... ;-}

120 posted on 05/30/2009 8:59:13 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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