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George Tiller (Child Murderer) shot to death at Wichita church
Wichita Eagle ^ | 05/30/2009 | Stan Finger

Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58

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To: Slings and Arrows

Reichstag Fire.

Yes, something about this just smells. This guy too neatly fits the list of potential domestic terrorists that came out a few weeks ago. The Dems could not have PLANNED a better scenario. White man in 50s, etc., etc. However, if it DOES turn out to be a genuine pro-lifer, this will be fully used against us.


401 posted on 05/31/2009 10:50:15 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: ReformedBeckite

Or maybe just as a matter of confusing the issue among those who attend “liberal” churches...


402 posted on 05/31/2009 10:50:15 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Reichstag Fire.

Yes, something about this just smells. This guy too neatly fits the list of potential domestic terrorists that came out a few weeks ago. The Dems could not have PLANNED a better scenario. White man in 50s, etc., etc. However, if it DOES turn out to be a genuine pro-lifer, this will be fully used against us.


403 posted on 05/31/2009 10:50:18 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: Kansas58

YOUTUBE ANTI-ABORTION SONG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuLT0vFceD8


404 posted on 05/31/2009 10:50:33 AM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Taking Congress back in 2010

If only some crazed Muslim actually had done this. The lefties would have quite a dilemma on their hands since the America-hating Islamofascists are one of their favored groups these days.


405 posted on 05/31/2009 10:50:40 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Balding_Eagle
Well, a whole lot of Freepers on this thread are just ‘playing nice’ so we don’t get wacked by the Leftists.

Yes indeed the Leftists are playing to win and we're still playing not to lose. Just look at all the nervous hand-wringing on this thread, what are THEY going to say, what are THEY going to think, OMG, what are we going to do now, jeez, I tell you, the battle is lost...........

406 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:09 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: newfreep
Why is the death of a satanic worshipper tragic?

1) Because this is still the murder of a human being; even though the work that Tiller did was utterly and intrinsically evil, the goal of stopping him could never be used to justify this as a means.

2) Without a doubt, this incident will be used to legitimize the pro-abortion crowd's motives -- as others have mentioned, whoever did this might have made a martyr of him.

3) The most important reason: Whoever murdered Tiller likely took away his chance at repentance. That is the most tragic part of all.

407 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:14 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: clintonh8r

Don’t paint me as a defender of this creep. I just think that the opinions expressed here are sickening.

Do you advocate vigilante “law”?


408 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:19 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Vince Ferrer
Because he needed it, and hopefully he was sincere enough that in his last moments he can be saved.

My guess is the church he attended was a liberal one that supported his actions and abortion rights in general.

409 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:20 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Palladin

Nah! They will run double shifts.


410 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:33 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: Kansas58
From Dr. Tiller's Website:

http://www.drtiller.com/

Women's Health Care Services is a professional organization dedicated to providing expert, confidential, and respectful abortion care. We have a national and international reputation for providing the highest quality abortion services in a safe and caring environment. Kindness, courtesy, justice, love and respect are the cornerstones of our patient-provider relationships.

We have an unparalleled record of safey in late abortion services and we have more experience in late abortion services over 24 weeks than anyone else currently practicing in the Western Hemisphere, Europe and Australia.

_____________________________________________________________

WHAT A LEGACY THIS GUY LEAVES BEHIND

"WELL DONE MY GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT WELL DONE."

Satan


411 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:04 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: yield 2 the right

“WE JUST LOST FOR FOREVER. THE OTHER SIDE WAS WON.”
+++++++++++=

I truly hope you’re not right about this. We just need to distance ourselves completely from this. Both sides of this debate know that what happened today is wrong. But it doesn’t change the principle that what Tiller did was sick and evil.

I as a pro-lifer who has demonstrated in picket lines - fully distance myself from the extreme vigilantism that has set back our dedicated, mostly wonderful movement today. Let’s continue to fight for the guiding principles of Pro-Life that are found in the Holy Skrit.


412 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:14 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the BIGOTS in the enemedia.])
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To: Kansas58
Judgement Pictures, Images and Photos
413 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:15 AM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Rannug
Or possibly a professional hit man, hired by someone for whatever reason.

With vanity plates?! If so, then whoever hired him needs to get their money back.

414 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:17 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Balding_Eagle

Well, as a non-Christian, I would like to see abortion ended. The only time I would allow abortions would be those cases involving incest and/or rape.


415 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:27 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: EternalVigilance

I have not been told anything about you. I have not made any threats against you either. Prove it liar.


416 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:28 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Cedric

FROM Daily Kos:

WICHITANS: candlelight vigil tonight (2+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Dittoz, teachingmathnow
Old Town Square, 8 p.m.

Anyone perfect must be lying. Anything easy has its cost. Anyone plain can be lovely. Anyone loved can be lost.

by PhantomFly on Sun May 31, 2009 at 10:41:12 AM PDT


417 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:44 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Prince Arugula and Lady Armpit, AKA BO & MO are driving me batty!)
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To: freeplancer; EternalVigilance
I bet you are sad that you can’t blame the Mormon church for this one, huh?

Oh quit the whining about how persecuted Mormons are. It's not relevant to this thread and nobody wants to hear it.

418 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:47 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All

Some years ago I heard the question posed “If you knew what the furure held and in 1935 were in position to kill Adolph Hitler... Would you?

I’m sorry George Tiller was killed today...


419 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:48 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: EveningStar
Do you advocate vigilante “law”?

No.

But I don't look a gift horse in the mouth, either.

I'll celebrate this dirtbag's dirtnap.

420 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:58 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: wagglebee

waggy, don’t be so quick to label Tiller’s killer a murderer. He/she hasn’t been caught yet. So we have no way of knowing whether it was a coldblooded contract killer, or a man or woman deranged by the sorrow of having his/her child killed by Tiller. Or any other variations.

“Murder” implies intent. Tiller was a murderer...he always had the intent of savagely ending a human life.

The person who did this may be guilty of manslaughter, or may be innocent by reason of insanity.

Let’s wait for the trial, HUH?

Since we are all being so broadminded here.


421 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:10 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: cranked
You do realize that if this story proves true, that it will be played by the liberal Barry media as the work committed by a rightwing extremist?

And, this incident will be used by the media to create a backlash against the pro-life movement, even though most opposed to abortion oppose murdering abortion doctors.

422 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:13 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: jwalsh07
A side of me wanted to break his neck with my owntwo aging but still strong hands.

The same could have been said about the "Roe" in "Roe v. Wade". Someone could have made justification to eliminate her at the point the ruling came out.

But today, God worked on her, and she changed, and she has been a help.

It is probably good that the vigilantes didn't get to her in the early days.
423 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:27 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Petronski

Very well said. I agree completely.


424 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:36 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: wagglebee
"He was found not guilty"

Thanks. I read through the Wichita Eagle article. The last paragraph says:

"A Wichita jury ruled in March that he was not guilty of illegal abortion on 19 criminal charges he faced for allegedly violating a state law requiring an "independent" second physician's concurring opinion before performing later term abortions. Immediately following the ruling in this criminal case, the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts made public a similar complaint against Tiller that was originally filed in December 2008."

So there was a different complaint against him for the same thing, and I'm betting it wasn't allowed as evidence in this court trial.

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

425 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:37 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: EternalVigilance; Admin Moderator

This person is lying. You can’t just make up stuff about people. I have never threatened anyone on this site ever.


426 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:40 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: SolidWood

Reichstag Fire, 2009 VERSION...AND NO I AM NOT A CHEESE EATING SURRENDER MONKEY...


427 posted on 05/31/2009 10:54:09 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: CHATTAB
The only time I would allow abortions would be those cases involving incest and/or rape.

So you would allow for the murder of innocent human beings under those circumstances?

428 posted on 05/31/2009 10:54:24 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

Lots of future abortions at the Church.

Tiller was always looking for business.


429 posted on 05/31/2009 10:54:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SeattleBruce

Twaddle.


430 posted on 05/31/2009 10:54:33 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: metmom

This has nothing to do with Mormons and I am not a Mormon. Sorry to dissapoint you.


431 posted on 05/31/2009 10:54:42 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: P-Marlowe

As far as I am concerned this is taking out the trash since this monster killed more babies than servicemen names etched into the Wall in DC

He was a mass murderer


432 posted on 05/31/2009 10:54:55 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: EveningStar

“Do you advocate vigilante “law”?”

Sometimes that’s the only law that can be brought to bear.


433 posted on 05/31/2009 10:55:36 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: livius
I hope as you, of course, however -—

Most of us who have been involved in politics or the prolife cause, in this area, are well aware of the weird “church” that Tiller attends.

I am not so sure that those who had a personal vendetta, against him, would know as much.

434 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:02 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: EternalVigilance

You owe me an apology for slandering me. If I do not get an apology, I will take legal action. You have 24 hours.


435 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:06 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Palladin

While I agree with everything you say about this possibly being manslaughter or temporary insanity, it is still murder and a person who commits murder is a murderer.


436 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: newfreep
Definitely late-term.
437 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:17 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: usconservative

“While I won’t celebrate, diminish or glorify his death in any way, Tiller’s murder is not tragic. “

Tiller’s murder is about as tragic as Hitler’s suicide.


438 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:30 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: Kansas58

Looks like it was Tiller’s turn to be aborted.


439 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:34 AM PDT by banalblues (God help us all.)
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To: EveningStar

Post 222 concisely states my position. To answer your question directly, I do not believe in vigilante law unless there is no other alternative. I do not believe we have reached that point.


440 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:35 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Librerals are more dangerous to liberty than terrorists.)
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To: luvEastTenn; Slings and Arrows

You know, there was just a thread about how the dems are waiting for some national tragedy to tighten gun laws.

Watch them use this.


441 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:38 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: reg45

LOL


442 posted on 05/31/2009 10:57:41 AM PDT by banalblues (God help us all.)
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To: freeplancer; EternalVigilance; Admin Moderator

Stalking folks from thread to thread is verboten.


443 posted on 05/31/2009 10:57:54 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: yield 2 the right
"WE JUST LOST FOR FOREVER. THE OTHER SIDE WAS WON."

Thousands of unborn children respectively disagree.

444 posted on 05/31/2009 10:58:06 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: luvEastTenn

Please don’t get me wrong - I don’t think that this murder was a false-flag operation by the Left / Zer0 / the Illuminati / whomever; I am concerned that it will be exploited by the administration that “never lets a good crisis go to waste.”

My sole consolation is that the oppositon may push too hard, a la Paul Wellstone’s funeral.


445 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:01 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("If Dick Cheney is Darth Vader, then Barack Obama is Jar-Jar Binks!")
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To: freeplancer

Stay away from me.


446 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (They tell you that conservatism "can't win" because they don't believe in it. Duh...)
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To: EternalVigilance

God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.


447 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:35 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: Arkinsaw

Perfect statement, and they didn’t waste a second in getting it out.

Good work from Operation Rescue.


448 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:52 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: P-Marlowe
Dear P-Marlowe,

I don't think that it's intrinsically evil to kill someone like Mr. Tiller with the intention of stopping the mass serial murder of such a person.

However, in looking at the likely consequences of the deed, that it will likely shore up support for legal abortion, that it will bring disrepute to the cause of life, that it will likely further harden the souls of many pro-deathers, that it will likely put off further the day when abortion is banned, the killing of the scumbag seems immoral because of the great evils it brings about.

There may come a time when a critical mass of Americans decides that the rights of unborn children will ultimately only be vindicated through violence. And then there will be war.

What will be done morally during such a war (including the field trials and summary executions of abortionists) will have been immoral before that time.


sitetest

449 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:54 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Popman

“He was a mass murderer”

Actually, “mass” intimates large groups. I think he could be better described as a “serial” killer since he killed them one at a time.


450 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:57 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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