Suspect supported killing abortion providers, friends say

The Miami Herald ^ | May 31, 2009 | Judy L. Thomas

[Deo volente]

The suspect in custody for the slaying of Wichita abortion doctor George Tiller was a member of an anti-government group in the 1990s and a staunch opponent of abortion...

...Those who know Roeder said he believed that killing abortion doctors was an act of justifiable homicide.

"I know that he believed in justifiable homicide," said Regina Dinwiddie, a Kansas City anti-abortion activist who made headlines in 1995 when she was ordered by a federal judge to stop using a bullhorn within 500 feet of any abortion clinic. "I know he very strongly believed that abortion was murder and that you ought to defend the little ones, both born and unborn."

[BigSkyFreeper]

Come Monday, Tiller (a murderer of unborn babies) will be held up as a hero and martyr by the pro-death and the “pro-choice” crowd. Tiller’s murderer is nobody’s hero.

[wardaddy]

John Brown was a madman who killed innocents as did Nate Turner

Tiller was no innocent.

Slavery in no way compares to abortion as evil.

Slavery was about controlling folk's freedom for their labor. Slavery existed for all of mankinds existence till recently ...and on a grand scale but abortion at the level we now see worldwide is unprecedented....never in history anything like what the left now celebrates as a right.

Abortion is about killing babies..

Only the left would even attempt a comparison...(not you)

Abortion has killed exponentially more than all wars in history combined.

Thanks feminism, the real Pol Pot gorilla in the closet of history

[nathanbedford]

The moral I take from your history lesson is that he who writes the songs writes the history. John Brown was an actual terrorist. His murders were not confined to Harpers Ferry but he slew innocent folks along the Pottawattamie River for which "massacre" he earned the sobriquet "Osawatomie Brown."

In logic, slavery is a less heinous act than abortion and so today's John Brown is less culpable than the man eulogized in the music invariably played at presidential funerals and which I sang as a child regularly in school assemblies. The Union won the war and the North won the battle over John Brown. The terrorist became a martyr.

But today the opposite will occur. The mass murderer will become a martyr and our present-day John Brown will become the terrorist. Will those who write the song and the history of this affair teach our schoolchildren that 30 million babies "lie moldering in the grave"?

[synbad600]

Anti-government? Justifiable homicide?

Is this guy related to Bill Ayers?

[cmj328]

So he had no connection to pro-life groups except occasionally writing them oddball letters and giving them strange hugs over the course of 15 years. And his bit about Tiller being an American Mengele was spot on.

[tobyhill]

Not in defense of this action but the fact is, he only did what thousands of other thought about doing. It happened to Jeffrey Dahmer too.

[Biggirl]

...I see history being repeated.

[chuck_the_tv_out]

“member of an anti-government group in the 1990s”

Heck, who wasn’t? The Clinton/Media cabal would have brought out the militiaman in Mother Teresa.

Now we’re seeing something 5x worse...

[eleni121]

I doubt many pro-lifers would call Roeder a hero.

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Even when he eliminates a serial murderer?

[paulycy]

Even when he eliminates a serial murderer?

Conservative pro-lifers respect the rule of law. If they didn't this would happen all the time.

[Never on my watch]

“Conservative pro-lifers respect the rule of law. If they didn't this would happen all the time.”

Yes, Conservative pro-lifers respect the law and abortionists are rarely murdered (I read four since the early 80’s). More than half the population of the US is Pro-Life, and if those who killed abortion doctors consider themselves Pro-Life then this type of person is statistically non-existent. In the media and popular culture, however, he will be made the face of the Pro-Life movement.

But isn't there such a thing as an unjust law?

[paulycy]

But isn't there such a thing as an unjust law?

Absolutely. And Roe vs. Wade is the classic example.

[babyfreep]

She didn't "lick" anybody's "boots". She's right - they are both murderers. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.
No matter how sickening Tiller's dirty deeds were, we are a nation of laws. Unless this was truly the start of a war, unfortunately, Tiller's death is not going to have much impact on the cause to end these late-term abortions...another doctor will just take his place.

[Never on my watch]

I know, it was rhetorical. This was my 2 cents from yesterday:

A person broke the law. He was apparently caught and will be punished, and he knew this when he set out. I suspect he intended to surrender on the spot, but got scared. (He did not snipe from a hill or wear a disguise).

He decided that losing his freedom (or his life) to stop Tiller was a price he was willing to pay.

Tiller was the most vile and vicious abortionists that I have ever heard of, and I am unable to find any sympathy for him or those who loved him.

The problem here is that liberal bigots will paint pro-lifers with a broad brush and it will now essentially be illegal to hold pro-life views or own weapons.

They are quick to excuse the terrorist Muslims for their atrocities (saying it was the actions of America that drove them to it) and yet, they will send this guy to GITMO for water-boarding and execution (without the noting the real atrocities that Tiller has committed that drove this person to his act).

PRO-LIFE GROUPS DO NOT plan violence against anyone, and the most activist that they get is laying down in prayer, blocking the door to a clinic (which even they recognize is a largely futile effort and yet are willing to go to jail for it).

[MrB]

I don’t know the exact stats, but I do know that Kansas by far was the “late term abortion capitol of America”, all due to this man and his bought politicians.

[paulycy]

PRO-LIFE GROUPS DO NOT plan violence against anyone

Yeah, that's what makes them pro-life. The death penalty is controversial but is applied to the adult under specific circumstances and after full rights to a trial by jury.

No true pro-lifer believes in simply taking a life, at least IMO. (Self-defense is an exception too, of course.)

[MrB]

The pro-life side tried EVERY avenue of politics and law to get this guy to stop ILLEGALLY murdering fully formed babies.

The left, Tiller’s money, and corrupt politicians and media thwarted all legitimate efforts. You can’t close all the valves on a boiler and expect good results.

The left should take note when they’re corrupting the ballot process with Acorn, voter intimidation, voter fraud, and census fraud. The steam WILL find an outlet, or it will make one.

[MrB]

“Roeder was just an English professor that lived in my neighborhood...”

Really, what is the different in methods between Roeder and Ayers/Dohrn?

[Never on my watch]

I didn’t write that. Did you mean to reply to me?

[MrB]

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was “paraphrasing” Obama’s description of William Ayers, and making a parallel.