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Pastor's comments on Tiller 'unbiblical'
One News Now ^ | 6/8/2009 | Allie Martin

Posted on 06/08/2009 3:42:07 PM PDT by lasereye

The president of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) is repudiating statements made by a former convention official regarding President Barack Obama and the recent murder of abortionist George Tiller.

On a recent webcast of his daily radio talk show, Wiley Drake, former second vice-president of the SBC, called last Sunday's murder of Tiller "an answer to prayer." Then during an interview with Alan Colmes on Fox News Radio, Drake said he was praying the same type of "imprecatory prayer" against the president of the United States.

For years, Drake has encouraged the practice of praying words of judgment found throughout the Book of Psalm, back to God, against enemies. But Dr. Johnny Hunt, pastor of First Baptist Church of Woodstock, Georgia, and president of the SBC, says Drake's comments are out of line.

"[That's a] terrible statement, [a] very unbiblical statement," Hunt responds. "I'm still encouraged that the [Book of] Proverbs teaches that God has the water in a channel -- and my prayer has always that God would turn hearts."

Hunt also referenced the Book of 1 Timothy, which encourages Christians to pray for those in authority.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; christianradio; sbc; southernbaptist; tiller; wileydrake
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1 posted on 06/08/2009 3:42:07 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

I always pray that God will stop evil. How He chooses to do it is His business.


2 posted on 06/08/2009 3:47:23 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: lasereye
Wiley Drake, former second vice-president of the SBC

My new hero!

3 posted on 06/08/2009 3:48:59 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: Recon Dad

He’s an idiot.


4 posted on 06/08/2009 3:51:01 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: Recon Dad

My hereos do not pray that people be murdered and my God does not answer the prayers of those who pray that a human be murdered. However, He may have a place to send those who pray for people to be murdered.


5 posted on 06/08/2009 4:00:02 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Patrick1

Very few people are realize - or are willing to admit - that we are at war for the future of our nation.

Our President is a Socialist.

We sent American men to die in a war to stop socialism.


6 posted on 06/08/2009 4:02:28 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: trumandogz

Tried reading the Psalms?


7 posted on 06/08/2009 4:03:49 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

That all may be true but it has nothing to do with this fool.


8 posted on 06/08/2009 4:06:46 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: Recon Dad

If that is the way he chooses to pray it is between him and GOD.


9 posted on 06/08/2009 4:06:49 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Recon Dad

It is funny how we can go around the world fighting to help others. But we are supposed to sit by and watch our own country be destroyed.


10 posted on 06/08/2009 4:09:26 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: pray4liberty
I always pray that God will stop evil.

"Deliver us from evil." Ultimately it is not up to ourselves.

11 posted on 06/08/2009 4:10:03 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: lasereye

Life would have been much better if Tiller had gotten an enlightenment and joined the Pro-Life movement.

Our Lord works in mysterious ways.

And the big question is, who else was in on this murder? No one. The killer took things into his own hands instead of trusting Our Lord to make it right.


12 posted on 06/08/2009 4:12:37 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: trumandogz

We can see you aren’t big on the heroes of the bible then. Or you simply reject all those parts of it which you personally don’t like.

Psalm 109:8 comes to mind.
You don’t seem to comprehend that God has all power and all authority to accomplish his purposes. Sometimes he uses human agencies.

We are allowed to pray that God will remove our enemies. Jeremiah did so throughout much of the book of Lamentations.
If god uses a human agency to accomplish that, that does not make our prayer unjust.


13 posted on 06/08/2009 4:13:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Mr Rogers
None that I recall say that we should pray that someone walk into a church a kill someone or pray that the president be assassinated.
14 posted on 06/08/2009 4:15:09 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: lasereye

Is it okay to pray for O to have a nervous breakdown from the pressure, a la Nebuchadnezzar?


15 posted on 06/08/2009 4:17:09 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: trumandogz
None that I recall say that we should pray that someone walk into a church a kill someone or pray that the president be assassinated.

If you pray;

Psalm 109:8Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

as David did when oppressed by King Saul it doesn't specify a human agency. Disease or stroke would be fine. Prayer puts matters into gods hands, and trumandogz God has the Right, power and authority to order all things according to his will.

16 posted on 06/08/2009 4:24:28 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: trumandogz

Well that’s where we clearly differ. I don’t believe he was murdered at all. I do believe that Justice, real Justice was served. The fact that the majority of voters are ok with murdering innocents doesn’t alter the fact that he was murdering, and those who fulfill abortions are murders, therefore removing a murderer is A-ok in my opinion... Granted I’ll let other tools of God do the culling.

I suppose your heroes are those that do nothing more than talk about how it used to be in the old days ehh? Or perhaps those who complain about how it should be better. Wake up, it’s been 30 years and 50 millions deaths what the hell do you think we should do? Accept it? Protest? Use harsh language?

The core has a damn good addage and it’s really quite simple. “God will judge our enemies, we will provide the meeting” or perhaps a better one for you, “Forgiveness is up to God. I just hope we hurry up the meeting”

I personally hope Tiller BIH.


17 posted on 06/08/2009 4:26:14 PM PDT by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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To: Recon Dad

Arise, O LORD; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly. Psalm 3:7


18 posted on 06/08/2009 4:27:54 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: trumandogz

Murder is killing an innocent person, Tiller was not innocent.

There is a time for peace and a time for war.

What tools God uses to destroy evil is of no consequence to me, only that he removes it.

And if God choose to remove more in this manner than so be it.

Blessed be the name of the Lord.


19 posted on 06/08/2009 4:29:39 PM PDT by stockpirate (The 2nd amendment protects all other rights as outlined in our constitution. Without it we fall.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Ultimately it is not up to ourselves.

Correct. His Will be done.

20 posted on 06/08/2009 4:30:02 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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