[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[cranked]

Memo sent to Discovery Channel....

[humblegunner]

So how can there be "evidence" if everything happened by magic?

The Earth is old. Get used to it.

[rbg81]

I dunno—our birds seem to think they are dinosaurs. They certainly have no fear of attacking people.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

So what!

[SoldierDad]

Yet another myth blown apart!

[scripter]

Their flow-through lungs would collapse if the femur moved like it does in mammals, reptiles and dinosaurs. It’s really strange that no one realized this before, said Devon Quick, professor of zoology at OSU

Maybe they weren't listening? I remember discussing much of what's in this article nearly 20 years ago.

[Texas Eagle]

Oh, brother. First Pluto is a planet, and then it's not a planet. First, the Andes mountains are 6 million years old and then they're 12 million years old. And now this.

Tell me again why so many people place so much faith in scientists?

[MissouriConservative]

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The disclaimer on the website you used for reference should not use links if it does not check the accuracy of the content. It does not show much faith in the information that it publishes.

[firebrand]

More and more I am realizing that seeing the truth of evolution and even the value of science is a gift of enlightenment. There is no way you can convince anyone, since they have all the same evidence and still cannot see it. Ponder: Why were there only three Magi?

[count-your-change]

The History Channel depicted dinosaurs looking like colorful feather dusters with legs. Keeps up they’ll need new names like: Chickasaurus and T. Featherbeddus.

[goodusername]

Check out theropod skeletons compared to birds - the difference in the legs is very very small. It’s hardly a “you can’t get there from here” scenario.

Compare the skeletons of MODERN birds with each other and you’ll see far more variation than you will between modern birds and the theropods.

[ElectricStrawberry]

Selective reading again?

Or didja miss the claim about modern birds evolving along a different path than some believe?

[ChessExpert]

“Frankly, there’s a lot of museum politics involved in this, a lot of careers committed to a particular point of view even if new scientific evidence raises questions,” Ruben said. In some museum displays, he said, the birds-descended-from-dinosaurs evolutionary theory has been portrayed as a largely accepted fact

Reminds me of the “fact of evolution.” People do acquire an unwarranted commitment, and it’s hard to shake them loose. The commitment to Marxism over the years, up to the present, in Europe and America is staggering, when you consider it’s inadequate foundation. Evolutionary theory reminds me more of Freudian psychology, able to explain just about everything, but predicting very little. When an evolutionary prediction is found wrong, the prediction is revised with a superior “that’s science” statement. However, being able to “explain” anything, while predicting little - with the few specific predictions often wrong - is a hallmark of metaphysics (Marxism, Freudian psychology, evolutionary theory), not science.

[GodGunsGuts]

Thought you might get a kick out of this thread :o)

All the best—GGG

[Tax Government]

An interesting site for you all: http://www.palaeos.com .

[marsh2]

Watch a wild turkey female run and its is so obvious that birds and dinos are related.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

A short non-technical description of this controversy can be found here.

[SunkenCiv]

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	Gods Graves Glyphs	Here's a better excerpt directly from the Oregon State news release: Discovery raises new doubts about dinosaur-bird links News and Communication Services Oregon State University 6-9-09 It's been known for decades that the femur, or thigh bone in birds is largely fixed and makes birds into "knee runners," unlike virtually all other land animals, the OSU experts say. What was just discovered, however, is that it's this fixed position of bird bones and musculature that keeps their air-sac lung from collapsing when the bird inhales. Warm-blooded birds need about 20 times more oxygen than cold-blooded reptiles, and have evolved a unique lung structure that allows for a high rate of gas exchange and high activity level. Their unusual thigh complex is what helps support the lung and prevent its collapse... However, every other animal that has walked on land, the scientists said, has a moveable thigh bone that is involved in their motion -- including humans, elephants, dogs, lizards and -- in the ancient past -- dinosaurs... "For one thing, birds are found earlier in the fossil record than the dinosaurs..." Ruben said... "But one of the primary reasons many scientists kept pointing to birds as having descended from dinosaurs was similarities in their lungs," Ruben said... The newest findings, the researchers said, are more consistent with birds having evolved separately from dinosaurs and developing their own unique characteristics, including feathers, wings and a unique lung and locomotion system. There are some similarities between birds and dinosaurs, and it is possible, they said, that birds and dinosaurs may have shared a common ancestor, such as the small, reptilian "thecodonts," which may then have evolved on separate evolutionary paths into birds, crocodiles and dinosaurs. The lung structure and physiology of crocodiles, in fact, is much more similar to dinosaurs than it is to birds... old theories die hard, Ruben said... Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution. Probably will post a separate topic. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
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