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Who Sunk Support for Israel?
Commentary Magazine ^ | June 16th, 2009 | Jonathan Tobin

Posted on 06/16/2009 12:30:50 PM PDT by Jbny

What are we to make of the new poll that supposedly shows a decline in American support for Israel? According to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, the survey was conducted by the Israel Project and the results were leaked by someone who obtained the data immediately after polling last week.

Reportedly, the poll shows a precipitous drop in the number of those who call themselves supporters of Israel, with 44 percent believing the United States should support Israel as opposed to 69 percent last year

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; america; antisemitism; bhomiddleeast; israel; poll; proisrael; publicopinion
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1 posted on 06/16/2009 12:30:50 PM PDT by Jbny
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To: Jbny
i don't believe that for 1 second
2 posted on 06/16/2009 12:32:18 PM PDT by peace with honor
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To: peace with honor

Obama’s minions believe what Obama believes. Obama doesn’t support Israel, so they don’t either. That’s enough to account for such a result.

American Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, too.


3 posted on 06/16/2009 12:33:53 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Jbny

I am inclined to think that this is more a function of the poll, who took it and the way questions were asked rather than a real change in public opinion.


4 posted on 06/16/2009 12:35:21 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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To: Jbny

DEMS.
And the fools who voted for them.


5 posted on 06/16/2009 12:35:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Jbny

Israel has always gone the George Bush way of dealing with the Arabs propaganda about “civilian casualties”.


6 posted on 06/16/2009 12:36:34 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: ltc8k6
American Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, too.

This could well be at the heart of the decline...if Jews in America supported an anti-semite for President then why should I be bothered. They will reap what they have sown.

7 posted on 06/16/2009 12:38:55 PM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: Jbny

With rahmbo the power behind the throne? The Jewish vote, which rahmbo represents, supported obozo. rahmbo is the power behind the throne besides being an Orthodox Jew. rahmbo even accompanied obozo to the middle east into countries that don’t like Jews. If any Jew wants access to the WH, see rahmbo. I don’t think that support for Israel has declined not with who is in power.


8 posted on 06/16/2009 12:44:46 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Jbny

“question 1: As you know, Obama thinks we should not support Israel, and will use all the power of government against those who do. Do you support Israel?”


9 posted on 06/16/2009 12:57:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: peace with honor

YOu better believe it. Allah 2 has full 100% propaganda on all the TV news except Fox. He is very close to Hamas and Bibi’s govt will be undermined like he was when Clinton was president.

The American public will get worn down by the TV news media. They already elected a muslim controlled by the Saudis.


10 posted on 06/16/2009 12:58:47 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: ltc8k6

That sounds right. The crowd-follows-the-King effect.

Obama has no connection with Jews or Israel, despite Bubba Rahm Duh.


11 posted on 06/16/2009 1:01:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: La Lydia

I think it is the steady drum beat from DBM that the poor Palistinians are beaten and humiliated every day by the evil occupier Zionists. Muslims can do whatever they want. Dismember kidnapped Israeli troops or civilians, blow up public places. But let one civilian die in a rocket attack on a terrorist HQ, you get nothing but bellyaching about those mean, war crime committing Jews.

Thanks Obama and your lap dog media.


12 posted on 06/16/2009 1:02:34 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Jbny
I don't know if it was hypnotic state accomplished with the use of NLP (as suggested by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons) or a nice Kenyan witchcraft incantation picked up during a visit to the old country, but there is little doubt that he cast a spell over a big chunk of the populous and they are still under his control.

So, we he turns his back on Israel, people, even Jews who usually comprise the hardcore support of Israel, follow in glassy-eyed obedience.

13 posted on 06/16/2009 1:06:27 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Enough about me, let's talk about you...what do you think of me?")
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American voters’ support for both Israel and PA declines

By HAVIV RETTIG GUR

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1244371097524&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Support for Israel among American voters dipped slightly over the first half of 2009, but this was not accompanied by a rise in the single-digit backing for Palestinians, a new poll has revealed.

According to a Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research poll conducted for The Israel Project last week, 49 percent of US voters consider themselves supporters of Israel, down from 57% in January. Just 7% see themselves as supporters of the Palestinians, down from 8% in January. Fully 31% are either undecided or support neither position.

Support for Israel is currently higher than the seven-year low of 38% during the August 2005 disengagement from the Gaza Strip or the high of 69% measured in September 2008.

Those who identified as Republicans showed the strongest support for Israel (65% to 3% for the Palestinians), followed by Independents (50% to 9%) and Democrats (38% to 9%).

The survey, which covered 800 registered voters, seemed to indicate that Americans are beginning to be discouraged from supporting either party in the conflict. Asked who the United States should support, far fewer answered Israel than in January (from 58% down to 44%), while the figure for Palestinians was cut nearly in half (from 9% to 5%). The number of undecideds and those supporting “neither” side increased, rising from a total of 23% in January to 32% last week.

Americans question the commitment of both parties to achieving peace, a skepticism that is nearly equally widespread regarding both the new Netanyahu government and the Palestinian Authority.

This is true across the American political spectrum. Among Republicans, the belief that Israel’s government is committed to peace dropped from 74% in March 2008 to 56% in June 2009, while among Independents and Democrats, the view that the Netanyahu government is not committed to peace has become the plurality, though by a slim margin (42% agree to 41% disagree among Democrats and 49% to 37% among Independents).

A plurality believes the PA, too, is not genuinely seeking peace, but this figure has declined from 61% in March 2008 to 49% in the latest poll.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu may take comfort in the vast majority among American voters who reject a total return to the 1949-1967 Green Line. Some 57% of reject requiring Israel to withdraw from the entire West Bank, while just 23% support the move. The figures are almost unchanged from January 2009.

Even among just Democrats, the figures are nearly two-to-one: 47% support Israel keeping some land for security purposes while 27% reject this idea.

Couched in a different way, as a question on Israel’s right to “defensible borders,” support for Israel retaining parts of the 1967 conquests was extremely high among Republicans (64% support to 12% opposed), decreasing slightly among Independents (58% to 20%) and lowest among Democrats (45% to 33%), though retaining a clear majority for Israel in all groups.

Americans support a two-state solution, believing it would make Israel more secure (55% agree to 30% disagree) and the region more peaceful (55% to 34%).

But they are skeptical at the Palestinian response to Israeli overtures. Forty-eight percent believe Israeli support for a two-state solution and a freeze on settlements would not end Palestinian terrorism, while 39% believe it would.

Nor do American voters believe their own terrorist threats will be reduced if Israel makes peaceful overtures. Asked if such a move would lead to a reduction in the threat of terrorist attacks on US soil, 63% said no and just 24% said it would.

In keeping with recent polls showing similar figures among the French and British publics, American voters overwhelmingly view Iran as a threat to them, with 83% agreeing and just 12% saying the threat is “not serious.” These figures are almost identical to polls taken throughout 2008. A similar number (84% to 7%) believe Iran is a genuine threat to Israel as well.

A large majority support additional sanctions to prevent war with Iran (64% agree to 27% who disagree).


14 posted on 06/16/2009 1:15:07 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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More details of poll in post 14

15 posted on 06/16/2009 1:15:54 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: ltc8k6
"American Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama, too."

Looks like American Jews are liberals but American Zionists are conservative. Splits beginning to appear like Catholics. Interesting future.

16 posted on 06/16/2009 1:42:45 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Jbny

“Who Sunk Support for Israel?”

The Muslim in the White House


17 posted on 06/16/2009 1:59:04 PM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: La Lydia
I am inclined to think that this is more a function of the poll, who took it, and the way questions were asked rather than a real change in public opinion.

Yes, I tend to agree. Plus, you also have an intimidation factor present that was not there a year ago: people who disagree with Big Brother are less likely to say so to a pollster for fear of reprisal.

18 posted on 06/16/2009 2:14:33 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Frantzie

Thankfully, we have not only Fox, but talkradio and the internet as well to get the message of freedom out.


19 posted on 06/16/2009 2:21:17 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Live Long And Prosper!"-Mr. Spock:)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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20 posted on 06/16/2009 3:16:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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