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McCain's benefit taxation not in GOP health plan [pwn3d]
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2009-06-17 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 06/17/2009 7:21:31 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

House GOP leaders who unveiled their “vision” for healthcare reform made clear that a major provision endorsed by 2008 GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) was not included.

Rep. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), chairman of the Health Care Solutions Group that spent months writing a "comprehensive" reform plan, said that McCain's proposal to tax employer-based benefits was "certainly not part of our plan."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 111th; blunt; gopenema; healthcare; mcbama; mccain; mcinsane; mcqueeg; mcrino; pwn3d; rejected; rejection; rino; rinopurge

1 posted on 06/17/2009 7:21:31 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

>> McCain’s proposal to tax employer-based benefits was “certainly not part of our plan.”

Good. Kick that loser to the curb. ‘course he’ll prolly just stroll “across the aisle” to bond with his true ‘Rat soulmates.


2 posted on 06/17/2009 7:24:49 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385
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3 posted on 06/17/2009 7:25:24 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Nervous Tick

It was actually a good idea. Each person would get a $5,000 tax credit which would more than pay for healthcare if that person stayed with his/her employer plan or opted out. Even Cato said it was a good idea.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 7:27:23 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: rabscuttle385

Why does the government need a “health plan” anyway?


5 posted on 06/17/2009 7:27:24 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn
it doesn't. However McCain's plan was to move people out of business provided healthcare into a more market based ability for people to buy their own health insurance.
6 posted on 06/17/2009 7:30:50 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: KoRn

Just what I want to know - why are we told healthcare needs to be reformed. It started w/the hilderbeast. I know the libs want control and grow gov’t but is there anything legitimate about ‘the need’ to reform.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Perdogg

>> It was actually a good idea. Each person would get a $5,000 tax credit which would more than pay for healthcare if that person stayed with his/her employer plan or opted out.

At my old job, health insurance was $800 per month. My employer paid the whole tab. 12 x $800 = $9600 per year.

You’re saying that McCain would TAX that $9600 benefit but give me back a $5000 tax credit. That would be better for me just how?

Furthermore, I am self employed now; I have a high deductible health care policy and can contribute the full amount of the the deductible ($5000) tax free. The balance can grow tax free. McCain would TAX that amount but then give it back to me at is face value; however the growth on the balance would be taxible, and there would be no greater deduction on the premiums than I have now. Please clarify for me how that’s a better deal.


8 posted on 06/17/2009 7:36:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Nervous Tick

This is why McCain lost, because the plan wasn’t properly explained. The $9600 would have counted as income and added to your net income, you would get all of your legal deductions. Not all of the $9600 would have been taxed, let’s say about 28-40% max. Let’s say you figured you owed the Govt $1200. You then would have gotten a tax credit of $5000 meaning you would have gotten a check from the IRS of $3800.

The CATO institute said this plan would work for %95 of the people who paid for healthcare.


9 posted on 06/17/2009 7:57:47 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: rabscuttle385
Rep. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), chairman of the Health Care Solutions Group that spent months writing a "comprehensive" reform plan,

How many pages was that again???

10 posted on 06/17/2009 8:04:54 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: rabscuttle385
I fail to see how following anyone who managed to infuriate his entire voter base would be beneficial.
11 posted on 06/17/2009 8:20:09 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Perdogg

I’m still looking for the paragraph in the Constitution (the “general welfare” clause isn’t it) or the amendment that makes it OK for the government to take my hard earned wages and give it to someone else for their health care.


12 posted on 06/17/2009 9:28:57 PM PDT by theymakemesick (You may be a terrorist if you went to church last Sunday or think "shall not be infringed" means it)
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To: Perdogg
The CATO institute said this plan would work for %95 of the people who paid for healthcare.

What about the other 5%?
13 posted on 06/17/2009 9:55:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: theymakemesick

It doesn’t. I never said I supported govt provided healthcare in fact I am against it.


14 posted on 06/18/2009 2:59:56 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg
It was actually a good idea. Each person would get a $5,000 tax credit...

I see, you don't want the government to "provide" the healthcare, just taxpayers to pay for it.

15 posted on 06/18/2009 5:41:12 PM PDT by theymakemesick (You may be a terrorist if you went to church last Sunday or think "shall not be infringed" means it)
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To: KoRn
Why does the government need a “health plan” anyway?

The same reason it needs Medicare, welfare, social security, at al...

For power control.

16 posted on 06/18/2009 5:48:25 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: rabscuttle385

Why in he** are the spineless GOP even coming up with a “health” plan. There is no plan needed! I swear the GOP leaders get stupider as time goes by. The Majority of US citizens do not want nationalize health care, whether the dimwits write it or the stupid party writes it. I am with the woman who wrote the letter: We are coming, we are going to toss all of you out on your ear, you better get ready! P****s!!!


17 posted on 06/18/2009 6:03:59 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Perdogg

It is nationalized health care. We don’t need it. If you want this type of sh** I would suggest you move to Canada, although I think they will have enough of theirs soon and kick it to the curb, if they can elect enough conservative leaders.


18 posted on 06/18/2009 6:06:18 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

why don’t you read my g-ddamn post where I say I am opposed to national healthcare?


19 posted on 06/18/2009 7:37:02 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: theymakemesick

I would like to think that the $5,000 tax credit I am getting is my money.


20 posted on 06/18/2009 7:37:48 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: SoConPubbie

I have no idea. Why don’t you go to CATO’s website and find out?


21 posted on 06/18/2009 7:38:33 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg
why don’t you read my g-ddamn post where I say I am opposed to national healthcare?

That's not what you said in the one I read. You were praising the 5000 "credit" which amounts to nationalized health care. That's the way I read and that's the way I responded. Next time don't chime in for National Health care if you don't believe in it. I don't know why YOU said you liked it and now say you don't...puzzler.

22 posted on 06/18/2009 8:01:50 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

I like the part about getting $5,000 back of my money that the govt took.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 8:04:59 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

You won’t get it back, you will be taxed in order for others to get it. You can’t run a pyramid scheme in the government anymore than in private life, altho the gov. tries it all the time. Getting the 5000 is the same as National health insurance, it is just the first step.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 8:06:53 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SoConPubbie

I found the article for you, wasn’t that nice of me?

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9380


25 posted on 06/20/2009 7:00:48 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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