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Woman fined $1.9 million for illegal downloads
CNN.com ^ | 2009-06-18 | Elianne Friend

Posted on 06/18/2009 6:29:59 PM PDT by dayglored

A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each — a total of $1.9 million — for 24 songs.

Jammie Thomas-Rasset’s case was the first such copyright infringement case to go to trial in the United States, her attorney said.

Attorney Joe Sibley said that his client was shocked at fine, noting that the price tag on the songs she downloaded was 99 cents...

(Excerpt) Read more at cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigmedia; copyright; download; judicialactivism; mp3; p2p; riaa; sony; tortreform
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To: taxtruth
> No comment.I’m in the same biz.

At a amateur level, so am I (as a lifelong musician who has self-produced CDs starting 12 years ago).

The problem is that the business model had to change, and the RIAA refused to do it. They could have made the new technologies work in their favor... but no, they have to do things the old way regardless...

Buggywhip makers.

21 posted on 06/18/2009 6:42:22 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
Federal jury, huh?

Surprised she wasn't fined $7.8 trillion per song.

22 posted on 06/18/2009 6:42:37 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: CaptRon

And it would be a blockbuster movie.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 6:43:45 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: dayglored
Lots more info here.

She is a mother of four, was using Kazaa, and reportedly had 1700 songs out for swapping. For simplicity, they only went after her for 24 of the 1700 songs. Otherwise, it could have been $136,000,000. A few more zeros, and she could retire the national debt. She turned down the usual plea bargain of $3K-$5K. Eeesh.

24 posted on 06/18/2009 6:44:39 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: dayglored

Anyone on this thread that is in the M biz understands this ruling.The non music biz people will not.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 6:44:49 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Always Right
They were probably just following the letter of the law of federal law which was written by the record lobby.

Two words: jury nullification

26 posted on 06/18/2009 6:45:18 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: RobRoy
Looks like the penalty for downloading a single song is worse than for armed robbery.

Hollywood luvs the porn peddlers, rapist, bank robbers etc - but they will fry you if you download their music for free...

I guess liberals know how to get tough when their money's on the table.

27 posted on 06/18/2009 6:45:34 PM PDT by GOPJ (...those who make non-violent revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.- JFK (Iran))
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To: mefistofelerevised
> Quess she should have paid .99 per song. She shouldn’t have her life ruined because of this. A little too nazi for me.

Well, her "crime" was the sharing, more than just the downloading. It's harsh as hell, because the RIAA didn't have to prove that anybody else even got a copy via her shares. They only had to prove "intent".

> It will probably be thrown out, but will cost her big bucks for attorneys.

I suspect it already has, though probably there are some pockets helping her out.

28 posted on 06/18/2009 6:45:54 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Ignorant jurors.

And judges instructions. Most jurors have no idea they can ignore all that. They just assume they have to follow what the judge tells them.

29 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:12 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: dayglored
I use limewire.

The last CD I bought was a Monty Python double in 1997. It was appropriately named "The Final Ripoff". I kid you not.


30 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:32 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: dayglored
Considering all the rest of what's going on in the world, this fits right in.
31 posted on 06/18/2009 6:47:20 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Prowd gaduate of a Calefornica publik skewl.)
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To: dayglored

It sends a message


32 posted on 06/18/2009 6:47:40 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: dayglored

Well, maybe just a few less Christmas presents this year.


33 posted on 06/18/2009 6:47:42 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: pray4liberty

Yes, but how many people have even heard of the concept of jury nullification. Most people would assume they have to follow the letter of the law. They do not realize they are the final arbitrators and can ignore a bad law if they wish.


34 posted on 06/18/2009 6:48:35 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Always Right

>>Most jurors have no idea they can ignore all that. They just assume they have to follow what the judge tells them.<<

Yeah, I was on jury duty once and told the rest of the jury that. Some of them did not believe me. In my job I deal with root causes. People don’t understand that a juror has a right to make his OWN decision. That is the whole point. He can be a racist sob that finds a black man guilty solely for his color. He has that right and if he is in unison with 11 of his kind, that black man is gonna have a bad day, inocent or not.


35 posted on 06/18/2009 6:48:49 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: NautiNurse
> ...it could have been $136,000,000. A few more zeros, and she could retire the national debt.

Ssshhh-hh-hh. The goobermint lawyers will hear ya....

> She turned down the usual plea bargain of $3K-$5K.

Yep. Somebody tried to prove a point. Unfortunately it was turned against them.

She was guilty. They should have used somebody who wasn't...

36 posted on 06/18/2009 6:49:04 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

New title: Jury awards plaintiff blood from turnip.


37 posted on 06/18/2009 6:50:58 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: RobRoy
> ..."The Final Ripoff". I kid you not.

Wow, that's... ummmm... GRAPHIC.

As a Python fan, I don't know how I missed that...

38 posted on 06/18/2009 6:51:59 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

I try to tell people that every single person being sought by the RIAA is being sought for making songs available for upload. My shared folder has a few songs in it so that I get more search hits. But they are all originals. :)

And most of the songs that are available are probably college kids using university servers, etc. I love it!


39 posted on 06/18/2009 6:53:20 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: taxtruth

I’m in the music biz - as a musician. But musicians are to the music biz what ford escorts are to the car rental biz.


40 posted on 06/18/2009 6:56:48 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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