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Can Third Temple be built without destroying Dome of the Rock?...
Jerusalem Post ^ | June 21st, 2009

Posted on 06/22/2009 1:48:53 PM PDT by TaraP

A new Jewish interfaith initiative launched last week argues building the Third Jewish Temple in Jerusalem would not necessitate the destruction of the Dome of the Rock.

"God's Holy Mountain Vision" project hopes to defuse religious strife by showing that Jews' end-of-days vision could harmoniously accommodate Islam's present architectural hegemony on the Temple Mount.

This vision of religious shrines in peaceful proximity can transform the Temple Mount from a place of contention to its original sacred role as a place of worship shared by Jews, Muslims and Christians," said Yoav Frankel, director of the initiative.

The Interfaith Encounter Association at the Mishkenot Sha'ananim's Konrad Adenauer Conference Center in Jerusalem is sponsoring the program, which includes interfaith study and other educational projects.

According to Islamic tradition, the Dome of the Rock, built in 691, marks the spot where Muhammed ascended to Heaven.

But according to Jewish tradition, Mount Moriah, now under the Dome of the Rock, is where the Temple's Holy of Holies was situated

Until now Jewish tradition has assumed that destruction of the Dome of the Rock was a precondition for the building of the third and last Temple.

However, in an article that appeared in 2007 in Tehumin, an influential journal of Jewish law, Frankel, a young scholar, presented a different option.

His main argument is that Jewish doctrine regarding the rebuilding of the Temple emphasizes the role of a prophet.

This prophet would have extraordinary authority, including the discretion to specify the Temple's precise location, regardless of any diverging Jewish traditions.

Frankel considers the scenario of a holy revelation given to an authentic prophet that the Temple be rebuilt on the current or an extended Temple Mount in peaceful proximity to the dome and other houses of prayer such as the Aksa Mosque and nearby Christian shrines.

However, both Muslims and Jews have expressed opposition to the initiative.

Sheikh Abdulla Nimar Darwish, founder of the Islamic Movement in Israel, said it was pointless to talk about what would happen when the mahdi, the Muslim equivalent of the messiah, would reveal himself.

"Why are we taking upon ourselves the responsibility to decide such things?" Darwish said in a telephone interview with The Jerusalem Post. "Even Jews believe that it is prohibited to rebuild the Temple until the messiah comes. So what is there to talk about.

"The mahdi will decide whether or not to rebuild the Temple. If he decides that it should be rebuilt, I will go out to the Temple Mount and help carry the rocks."

Darwish warned against any attempt to rebuild the Temple before the coming of the mahdi.

"As long as there is a Muslim alive, no Jewish Temple will be built on Al-Haram Al-Sharif [the Temple Mount]. The status quo must be maintained, otherwise there will be bloodshed."

In contrast, Baruch Ben-Yosef, chairman of the Movement to Restore the Temple, made it clear that the Temple had to be built where the Dome of the Rock presently stands.

"Anybody who says anything else simply does not know what he is talking about," he said. "A prophet does not have the power to change the law which explicitly states the location of the Temple."

Ben-Yosef also rejected the idea that rebuilding of the Temple had to be done by a prophet.

"All you need is a Sanhedrin," he said.

Mainstream Orthodox rabbis have opposed attempts to rebuild the Temple since the Mount came under Israeli control in 1967.

The Chief Rabbinate of Israel even issued a decree prohibiting Jews from entering the area due to ritual purity issues.

However, several grassroots organizations such as the Movement to Restore the Temple, and maverick rabbis, including Rabbi Israel Ariel, head of the capital's Temple Institute and a leading member of the revived Sanhedrin led by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, have called to take steps to renew the sacrifices on the Temple Mount and rebuild the Temple.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: holyland; prophecy; templemount
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1 posted on 06/22/2009 1:48:54 PM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

UHHH no...


2 posted on 06/22/2009 1:51:27 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; ...

Ping..


3 posted on 06/22/2009 1:52:14 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: TaraP

My hope is that one day Jesus returns and lances the cyst that is the Dome of the Rock.


4 posted on 06/22/2009 1:52:24 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: TaraP

My 8 ball tells me:

The answer appears to be No.


5 posted on 06/22/2009 1:52:36 PM PDT by rahbert ("When Democrats are in charge, stupid things happen"..)
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To: Star Traveler; Quix; F15Eagle; topcat54

Ping..


6 posted on 06/22/2009 1:54:08 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: rednesss

“King James Bible
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.”


7 posted on 06/22/2009 1:54:24 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: TaraP

What’s the point of that?


8 posted on 06/22/2009 1:54:37 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: TaraP

Help out the uninformed. Eh?


9 posted on 06/22/2009 1:57:03 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: TaraP
Please feel free to correct me whaever I am wrong here (I am currently reading 4 books on the Hebrew Bible and and traditions, etc. for a deeper understanding of my own Christian faith Bible).

Was not the location of Solomon's temple designated by God due the holiness of the place?

Could not the Israelis use the Western Wall to form an "Eastern Wall" of a new temple?

(rhetorical question here) What the heck was Mohammed the Muslim doing at the Temple Mount when he "ascended to Heaven"? Could that be a sign from God that Ishmael and Isaac were half-brothers and Jews and Muslims had better treat each other that way, or they will hate each other forever?

10 posted on 06/22/2009 1:59:40 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: TheZMan
Sorry but the “temple” was rebuilt at the resurrection. This is just more Tower of Babel stuff.
11 posted on 06/22/2009 1:59:42 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: TaraP

Oh (as the movie title tells us) There Will Be Blood!


12 posted on 06/22/2009 2:00:49 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: TaraP

THANKS.


13 posted on 06/22/2009 2:01:41 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP
Frankel considers the scenario of a holy revelation given to an authentic prophet that the Temple be rebuilt on the current or an extended Temple Mount in peaceful proximity to the dome and other houses of prayer such as the Aksa Mosque

Peaceful proximity to a mosque?

Just wow.

14 posted on 06/22/2009 2:01:45 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 154 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: ex-snook

Thank you.


15 posted on 06/22/2009 2:02:32 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: TaraP
"The mahdi will decide whether or not to rebuild the Temple. If he decides that it should be rebuilt, I will go out to the Temple Mount and help carry the rocks."

Darwish warned against any attempt to rebuild the Temple before the coming of the mahdi.

This is just Muslim doublespeak, meaning "do not even try to rebuild your Jewish temple".

16 posted on 06/22/2009 2:03:24 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: TaraP
.............................original sacred role as a place of worship shared by Jews, Muslims and Christians," said Yoav Frankel, director of the initiative.

Original? Huh?

17 posted on 06/22/2009 2:04:12 PM PDT by nufsed (. Stay away and I'll stay here. What else needs to be siad?)
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To: jeffc

I was really hoping all the tunneling under the mount would have brought it all down, but so far no luck I guess.


18 posted on 06/22/2009 2:05:00 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Patrick1

Amen..

In addition PETA would be causing all havoc with Animal Sacrafices..We have to many animal lovers of all faiths, well maybe not ISLAm, to bring back animal sacrafice.


19 posted on 06/22/2009 2:05:37 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: TaraP
Two points:

1. Technically, the mitvah is that the temple has to be on the mount. Doesn't say WHERE on the mount. And yes, there is plenty of room.

2. There is very good argument that the 1st Temple was a different location (my opinion).


20 posted on 06/22/2009 2:14:28 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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