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Blogger Hal Turner Charged With Threatening Chicago-Area Judges (web posts are being watched)
Hartford Courant ^ | 6-25-09 | Edmund Mahony

Posted on 06/25/2009 5:52:20 PM PDT by STARWISE

An Internet radio host and blogger charged earlier this month with encouraging people to "take up arms" against three public officials in Connecticut was arrested again Wednesday on charges that he threatened to assault and murder three federal judges in retaliation for a ruling upholding handgun bans in the Chicago area.

FBI agents charged Hal Turner, 47, of North Bergen, N.J., at his home on charges related to the appeals court judges. The federal charges in Chicago arise from Internet postings on June 2 and 3 in which Turner allegedly proclaimed his "outrage" over a June 2 decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.

"Let me be the first to say this plainly: These Judges deserve to be killed," said the postings, which also included photographs, phone numbers, work addresses and room numbers of the judges, along with a photo of the building in which they work and a map of its location.

The Chicago arrest warrant affidavit suggests that the Internet postings were inspired by lawsuits in Chicago and suburban Oak Park that followed a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last year upholding the right of citizens to keep handguns in their homes for protection.

The lawsuits challenged handgun bans that remained in effect after the high court's ruling. The three judges dismissed the lawsuits in an opinion written for a unanimous court.

Federal authorities said they found another Internet posting, allegedly written by Turner, claiming that the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals also ruled against Matt Hale, a white supremacist convicted of soliciting the murder of a U.S. District Court judge in Chicago. The blog entry noted that the slain judge's mother and husband also were killed by a gunman in her home.

"Apparently, the 7th U.S. Circuit court didn't get the hint after those killings," the posting said.

"It appears another lesson is needed."

State Capitol police in Connecticut charged Turner on June 3 with inciting injury to persons or property after he allegedly posted material on the Internet criticizing legislation to shift some control over the Roman Catholic Church affairs from the church to lay members.

The Internet blog targeting the Connecticut officials — state Rep. Michael Lawlor, state Sen. Andrew McDonald and state ethics commission officer Thomas Jones — promised to make public their home addresses.

On his Turner Radio Network blog, Turner allegedly wrote,

"It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally. These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die. ... If any state attorney, police department or court thinks they're going to get uppity with us about this, I suspect we have enough bullets to put them down, too."

Turner is scheduled to be presented this afternoon on the Chicago charges in federal court in Newark, N.J. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

He was presented at Superior Court in Hartford on Monday. He did not enter a plea. If convicted on the Connecticut state charge, he faces from one to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: blogger; ct; deaththreats; halturner; talkradio; threats; webthreats
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To: Winstons Julia

I do find that a lot of liberals support guns for themselves; but not for others. SPCA Animal Officers are good examples.


21 posted on 06/25/2009 8:05:02 PM PDT by Calpernia (DefendOurFreedoms.Org)
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To: Calpernia

So, what’s Turner’s association with Hannity and Pat Buchanan?

I’ll admit I don’t know much about the guy. He sounds like a nut to me. Maybe not to other folks here, but he sounds like a nut to me.


22 posted on 06/25/2009 8:09:24 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: STARWISE

Meet ‘em at the door, with a loaded forty-four!


23 posted on 06/25/2009 8:10:50 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Winstons Julia

>>>So, what’s Turner’s association with Hannity and Pat Buchanan?

Very, very fair question. I would like to know too.


24 posted on 06/25/2009 8:13:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (DefendOurFreedoms.Org)
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To: Clock King
Regardless of how you feel about Hal Turner, this case could have repercussions for us all.

Brandenburg v. Ohio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio
The U.S. Supreme Court stated that the government cannot constitutionally punish abstract advocacy of force or law violation.

The Eighth Amendment - Excessive Bail & Fines, Cruel & Unusual Punishment
http://peacesecurity.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_eighth_amendment_to_the_us_constitution#ixzz0JVHsZ9BN&C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excessive_bail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excessive_bail#The_Eighth_Amendment

Overbreadth doctrine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overbreadth_doctrine

25 posted on 06/25/2009 8:41:59 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: STARWISE
Violence is not the answer. Volence only begets more violence. Gandhi didn't use violence. Martin Luther King didn't use violence, Havl didn't use violence. Even the Soviet wall collapsed without real violence. Conservatives must win on ideas if the victory be sustainable.
26 posted on 06/26/2009 1:01:04 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

I know this thread is way old, but I leave this as a footnote for future readers: We’ve been punked ...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A5GCC80&show_article=1

So Mr. Turner’s real job was, apparently, to blunt conservatism by deliberately drawing offsides the kook fringe psudo-conservatives, and that as a way to discredit or difuse any robust reaction among genuine conservatives against the mounting tyranny. I call these people pseudo-conservatives because principled conservatism is like a well-trained offensive line; we only respond after the ball is snapped, because we’re watching the ball, not listening to the count. These pseudo-conservatives don’t even know what the ball looks like, let alone how to watch it.


27 posted on 08/18/2009 8:11:31 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer
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