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LIVE THREAD: American Clean Energy & Security Act (Cap and Trade) on CSPAN
CSPAN: HOUSE ^ | 26 JUNE 09 | dcbryan1

Posted on 06/26/2009 9:54:38 AM PDT by DCBryan1

House to continue Energy Bill Debate with Possible Vote Today

Later today, the House will continue general debate on the American Clean Energy & Security Act, Pres. Obama's climate change legislation. The bill centers on a renewable electicity standard, encouraging the use of renewable energy and a cap-and-trade policy.

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Keep calling your Congress Critters....they have pagers and cellphones that they receive messages on up to the minute that they vote.

Rep. Waxman (D-pig snout, CA) just intdroduced his bill....without disclosing another 300 pages and last minute admendments who, God knows what, is included.

Anyways....we are in for a helluv an afternoon, with our Constitutional Republic at stake at the worst, and our capitalist, free market way of life at the best.

1 posted on 06/26/2009 9:54:39 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1

How about people posting a nose count here.

My rep Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA) is a NO VOTE.


2 posted on 06/26/2009 9:57:00 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: Yankee

Marsha Blackburn is voting NO!


3 posted on 06/26/2009 9:57:48 AM PDT by goldylight
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To: DCBryan1

For everyone trying to get through to your Rep’s DC office only to encounter a busy signal...

All these folks have local offices scattered around their district - usually at least one in the largest city/town. Search the phone book or web phonebook yellow pages under the Rep’s name.

You can also get the local district office number and address off the Rep’s web page (they all have one).

One final obaservation... E-mail is great, but I feel it’s not nearly as effective as a phone call. From a phone call, the staffer can hear your passion and understand just how important you consider this to be. Plus - they understand it’s not spam or a robo-fax.


4 posted on 06/26/2009 9:58:22 AM PDT by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: Yankee

Looks like Vic Snyder (D)-2nd District, AR is the only one of our Congress Critters to NOT vote no (he’s still debating it says staff) ...which means that he will do whatever Nancy says.....


5 posted on 06/26/2009 9:58:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Yankee

Markey from Mass. lying through his teeth right now. Wow work for all, lots of jobs, electric cars, smart grid. GO TO HELL!


6 posted on 06/26/2009 9:59:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: DCBryan1
Iceberg AHEAD CAPTIAN!
Captian to engine room full steam ahead!
7 posted on 06/26/2009 9:59:47 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Yankee

We need to start working the Seante side. The house wouldn’t be putting this to a vote unless they knew they had enough. Might be close, but will most likely pass. Only chance to head it off is in the Senate.


8 posted on 06/26/2009 10:00:17 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: DCBryan1

My understanding is that the entire Alabama delegation will be voting NO - with the possible exception of Rep. Artur Davis. I have called his DC office and local office and respectfully begged he vote No.


9 posted on 06/26/2009 10:00:33 AM PDT by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: goldylight

Contact your Reps by email and call their office toll free:
1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044


10 posted on 06/26/2009 10:00:33 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: DCBryan1

Rush said Minnik (D-ID) was on the fence. Current info calling his DC office about an hour ago is that he will be voting NO.


11 posted on 06/26/2009 10:00:45 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: mojitojoe
Markey from Mass. lying through his teeth right now

Rhetorical joke: How do you tell when a liberal democrat is lying?

12 posted on 06/26/2009 10:01:22 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I say pour it on.

All it takes is a phone call.

A defeat today would be a huge momentum killer against the Obamanazi.


13 posted on 06/26/2009 10:02:06 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: DCBryan1

As someone pointed out a couple of weeks ago, Waxman, Markey, Algore and the Dems are telling us that if we will only tolerate their raising our taxes AND our cost of living, they will be able to control the weather. And the entire MSM believes them.


14 posted on 06/26/2009 10:03:10 AM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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To: WayneM
I just called Vic Snyder's office (2nd Dist, D-AR) and his staff confirmed that Vic is angry about having to read 300 pages introduced early (3-4AM). They have staffers reading 50 pages at the round table....so basically, Congressmen have their minion staffers breaking up the bill and giving their pea-headed opinions instead of the Congresscritters ACTUALLY READING the bill that they are voting for.

This is insane....1200 page bills....and they are getting passed WITHOUT our true representation.

15 posted on 06/26/2009 10:03:44 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: La Lydia

The hubris of these scumbags.

THEY COULDN’T POUR PISS OUT OF A BOOT IF THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE PRINTED ON THE HEEL.


16 posted on 06/26/2009 10:05:15 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: DCBryan1

“Devastates Rural America: According to the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, the monthly residential electricity bills in 25 states will increase 15 to 28 percent for every $20/ton of carbon dioxide allowances. Rural households spend 58% more on fuel than urban residents as a percentage of their income. The Heritage foundation estimates farm income will drop by $50 billion by 2035.”

From the Heritage Foundation


17 posted on 06/26/2009 10:05:28 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Yankee

Dennis Moore-D, KS will not admit that he is going to vote Yes. I’ve called his office several times. The 4 other KS Reps are R’s and Nay votes.


18 posted on 06/26/2009 10:06:20 AM PDT by KansasGirl (I still think Obama is just plain creepy.)
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To: DCBryan1; moder_ator

Already have a live thread going:

Here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2279994/posts?page=132


19 posted on 06/26/2009 10:06:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: Yankee

It’ll be great when Obama goes into panic mode and blames the American people for not “believing in the future” - what a turd.


20 posted on 06/26/2009 10:07:03 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: WayneM

Davis is running for Governor in 2010. Can’t imagine him voting yes on this.


21 posted on 06/26/2009 10:07:08 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Yankee
My rep, Elton Gallegly 24th district California, NO vote!
22 posted on 06/26/2009 10:08:18 AM PDT by califamily4W (Freedom!)
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To: DCBryan1

bump


23 posted on 06/26/2009 10:08:37 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: DCBryan1

I called both numbers - here and D.C. for my Congressman...but he’s a died in the wool rat who probably will just do what Pelosi tells him to.


24 posted on 06/26/2009 10:10:36 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: DCBryan1

I called both numbers - here and D.C. for my Congressman...but he’s a died in the wool rat who probably will just do what Pelosi tells him to.


25 posted on 06/26/2009 10:10:41 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: WayneM

http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/mcapdir.html

When the switchboard fails... direct dial works!!!


26 posted on 06/26/2009 10:10:54 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: hoosiermama; Sidebar Moderator

Duplicate ping!


27 posted on 06/26/2009 10:11:25 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: combat_boots

Yup.

Yesterday I saw a phony analysis that pegged the current average consumer’s monthly electric rate at $99.00.

What crap.

My best months, without heating or A/C costs are $125.00-$140.00. Heating and cooling months run between $250-$280.

This is for an all-electric house in suburban Atlanta.

This is with limited use of the range/oven as I cook outdoors, with propane, most nights.


29 posted on 06/26/2009 10:13:03 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: La Lydia; All

Dems say they have the votes.......unfortunately, I believe them since they would have held off the vote if they didn’t to have Obama give more a call.

We need to peel a few off. I am sure the vote is very close, so we would need only a few.


30 posted on 06/26/2009 10:13:53 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: La Lydia
ARKANSAS UPDATE:

Congressman Marion Berry (D): CONFIRMED! VOTING NO!

202-225-4076 (Washington, D.C.)

Congressman Mike Ross (D) CONFIRMED! VOTING NO!

202-225-3772 (Washington, D.C.)

Congressman Vic Snyder (D):As of 1200 PM EST UNDECIDED (which for this liberal means, he'll do what Nancy Pelosi says!

202-225-2506 (Washington, D.C.)
501-324-5941 (Little Rock)

Congressman John Boozman (R): CONFIRMED! VOTING HELL NO!

31 posted on 06/26/2009 10:15:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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I couldn’t get through to Sen Casey (PA) all day yesterday but finally got through to the DC office today. Staffer said they’d put off the vote today, but then proceeded to give me his lefty talking points (they do this every time I call). They don’t listen at all, just spew. He insists that the Congressional Budget Office report (which he claims to have read just yesterday) says we’ll each save $175/year with this legislation. I couldn’t get him to back off on his talking points but he heard NO loud and clear and I told him (again) that I will work hard against Casey’s re-election if he votes for this monstrosity.


32 posted on 06/26/2009 10:16:06 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: hoosiermama; moder_ator

Then it belongs in breaking news, with the link to cspan ;)


33 posted on 06/26/2009 10:16:40 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1
Limbaugh just announced the capital switchboard, email servers and fax machines are overwhelmed but he insisted on people keep calling, emailing and faxing. Don't let up! Hammer and overwhelm all means of communication! Toll free numbers are below.

800-828-0498

877-762-8762
34 posted on 06/26/2009 10:16:56 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: PreciousLiberty; Sidebar Moderator
I didn't find another dupe in my search...if there is one, it needs to be labeled "LIVE THREAD" and put into breaking news.

THX

35 posted on 06/26/2009 10:17:56 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

The Club for Growth sent me this information yesterday:

Top Ten Undecided Republicans:

Vern Buchanan (FL-13): 202-225-5015
Ginny Brown-Waite (FL-05): 202-225-1002
Joseph Cao (LA-02): 202-225-6636
Vern Ehlers (MI-03): 202-225-3831
Rodney Frelinghuysen (NJ-11): 202-225-5034
Jim Gerlach (PA-06): 202-225-4315
Tim Johnson (IL-15): 202-225-2371
Mark Kirk (IL-10): 202-225-4835
Chris Smith (NJ-04): 202-225-3765
Jeff Fortenberry (NE-01): 202-225-4806

If you’d like to reach out even further, below is a list of Democratic representatives believed to be undecided:

Jason Altmire (D-PA-04)
Bobby Bright (D-AL-02)
Frank Kratovil (D-MD-01)
Walt Minnick (D-ID-01)
Frank Kratovil (D-MD-01)
Chet Edwards (D-TX-17)
Brad Ellsworth (D-IN-08)
John Boccieri (D-OH-16)
Travis Childers (D-MS-01)
Kathy Dahlkemper (D-PA-03)
Mark Schauer (D-MI-07)
Gary Peters (D-MI-09)
Larry Kissell (D-NC-08)
Lincoln Davis (D-TN-04)
Chris Carney (D-PA-10)
Steve Driehaus (D-OH-01)
Harry Teague (D-NM-02)
Joe Donnelly (D-IN-02)
Ciro Rodriquez (D-TX-23)
Harry Mitchell (D-AZ-05)
Betsy Markey (D-CO-04)
Alan Grayson (D-FL-08)


36 posted on 06/26/2009 10:18:49 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Just say "No" to socialism.)
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To: DCBryan1

It was under “front page news”, since it’s scarcely “breaking”. Mods were already pinged to update the sidebar, but must be asleep at the wheel. I’ll fix it as best I can. ;-)

C-SPAN was of course linked, BTW.


37 posted on 06/26/2009 10:19:45 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: MichiganConservative

Just reached Vern Buchanan’s office - staffer says he’s voting no.


38 posted on 06/26/2009 10:21:41 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: MichiganConservative

Ginny Brown-Waite (FL) - staffer just told me she has always been opposed and remains opposed to it.


39 posted on 06/26/2009 10:23:36 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: Yankee; All

Around these parts, the electric utility asked for and received a 15% per year raise for 3 consecutive years. As it stands now, should you use over X KWH/month (say, 1000 for argument’s sake) you are charged a FEE of $20 as a penalty.

Notice this is A) Local, B) Personal and C) exclusive of the federal legislation now being voted one, which is even more eggregious.

CLNE = Pickens, GE, Gore, Pelosi. Pelosi’s husband is in solar. Maybe Soros, too, who’s buying oil interests and agricultural land worldwide.

CDS swaps, futures, fees, administrators, trees, renewables. The thing covers everything, including folding in to the UNFCC and Millenium Goals project to control the environment and regulate global finance. If you think about how this would fit into an NWO scenario, you don’t have to even be a conspiracist. Even ACORN has changed its name to Community Organizations International and is going GLOBAL—maybe with part of this money.

If it passes, drive the country now and buy whatever you think you’ll need if you can. $5.00+ gas and who knows what tacked on to every single piece of merchandise bought, trucked, distributed or sold will have incremental rises at every level of transaction out of sheer necessity. The cost of food is going to be impacted by who knows what percent.

This measure is an 0bama ACORN for algore. It’s design is to feudalize the US.


40 posted on 06/26/2009 10:25:35 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: DCBryan1

Congress should start getting real about this bill and other bills. What they are missing is Obama is a liar. He has already started to kill Congress and the MSM. For example, by not allowing the Republicans to participate and some of the MSM being banned.

They should ask themselves this one question. What’s to stop him from excluding his fellow Democrats on future things. It will happen. I have never seen it to fail if they go down this path. Regardless of what the people want; etc; this is about Congress ability to have a say and they absolutely won’t if Obama gets his way. I can pretty much guarantee that.


41 posted on 06/26/2009 10:25:49 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: DCBryan1

Any “Republican” who votes for this bill should be targeted for termination in 2010.


42 posted on 06/26/2009 10:26:28 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: DCBryan1

I’m listening to a nut from California Louis Capps. We are breathing CO2 right now. Tell me how it hurts health?


43 posted on 06/26/2009 10:27:18 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: DCBryan1; Sidebar Moderator

Side bar moderator is missing in action...did yo see the thread?


44 posted on 06/26/2009 10:27:56 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: DCBryan1

Looks like debate is scheduled to end at 3:45 EDT. Anyone who understands Congressional procedure better than me know if it’s likely to go to a vote then?


45 posted on 06/26/2009 10:28:21 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: DCBryan1
Ted Poe (R-Texas) is NO vote.

Called his office yesterday to confirm.

46 posted on 06/26/2009 10:29:31 AM PDT by reader25
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To: The Pack Knight

Senator Casey’s office told me vote is not taking place today.


47 posted on 06/26/2009 10:29:54 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: MichiganConservative

Spoke with staffer for Jim Gerlach (PA) - says he’s voting against it.


48 posted on 06/26/2009 10:30:23 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: freekitty

Ginny Brown Waite (FL) - VOTING NO!!!!


49 posted on 06/26/2009 10:31:00 AM PDT by Docs Galore
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To: freekitty

Ginny Brown Waite (FL) - VOTING NO!!!!


50 posted on 06/26/2009 10:31:04 AM PDT by Docs Galore
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