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I say we get help Karl Denninger get the ball rolling, and help stop all this nonsense!
1 posted on 06/30/2009 3:02:12 PM PDT by jacquej
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There is nothing wrong with adjusting withholding to match (as close as you reasonably can) your actual tax obligation.

Been doing that for many years. No point in "loaning" any of my money, interest free, to the government.

2 posted on 06/30/2009 3:06:50 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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I’m already doing most of this....

... so I can buy more firearms, accessories, and ammo.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 3:08:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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If we band together and refuse to spend money on anything but necessities we could have this Administration on the ropes. Of course it would hit many businesses. But maybe Socialism needs to FAIL in epic proportions so we can get our Republic back. If we could wait on purchases until Congress and the White house changes parties, we would be “voting with our feet.” Seems more forceful than our Republicans in office can be. Not to trample on them while they’re down, but I think they are starting to listen to Grassroots Conservative ANGER.


4 posted on 06/30/2009 3:10:06 PM PDT by mallardx
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We started going ‘Galt’ last November.

It’s not so bad, although I need a new car soon. It will not be an Obama or union car though.


5 posted on 06/30/2009 3:11:43 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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Related

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1173-And-Here-It-Is-On-CNBC-Manipulation.html


6 posted on 06/30/2009 3:13:38 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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Most businesses are Mom & Pop size or 50 employees or less; if we stop spending, these people suffer; and even many of us are these people. Instead, why not boycott the purchase of products and services of those companies who support this administration AND those products that produce federal revenue. For companies, Jeffrey Imelt and GE come to mind - how about trying really hard to boycott GE? Don’t buy anything made by GE or its subsidiaries; refuse to fly on a jet powered by a GE engine (imagine the airlines when people start refusing flights on planes with GE engines?); refuse an MRI at a hospital that uses GE MRI machines or x-ray machines; stop buying GE light bulbs; stop financing through GE’s finance unit; etc. As to products, the gov’t charges an excise tax on new car tires - how about waiting as long as you safely can to buy tires, then buy used ones from the classifieds or Craig’s List (no excise tax on buying used tires). Reduce gas consumption as much as possible - less fuel tax to the feds. I think we need someone to get a website going to spread the word - we can boycott until you listen and change - if you haven’t heard us by the next election, you go home.


7 posted on 06/30/2009 3:14:05 PM PDT by majormaturity
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“Don’t feed the monster” PING!


9 posted on 06/30/2009 3:21:45 PM PDT by SuziQ
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“Starve the Beast”.......I like it. It has a nice sound to it.


10 posted on 06/30/2009 3:23:22 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (It is impossible to convince someone of facts or truth if they refuse to believe.)
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It won't work.

A "Consumption" protest is ridiculous in an economy this size and a forum base this small.

If anyone launches something that would really work, like a National Tax Protest (which of course I don't advocate) their IP address could be demanded by the Secret Service from FR owner and they would be investigated and prosecuted.

11 posted on 06/30/2009 3:24:24 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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Finally...realization. There are those who are trying to bleed every last dollar that they can get out of consumers for entertainment and the like. They feel that their worlds will end, if they must rely on doing real work for living. We can do it, and they’ll survive.

We are already doing it. A few more people with us will bring the needed defaults and only workable solution. Governments and government-dependent businesses are heading for defaults anyway. The longer it takes, the longer that we’ll have to put up with their despotism. Stop buying everything that you don’t really need for a few years. It will be difficult, but we need to shut their sources of revenue down.

Grow gardens. Store food. Learn to make useful things. Refuse to engage in phony, fixed politics. We’ll make it.


12 posted on 06/30/2009 3:30:53 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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I've been in, am in, and will continue to remain in.

Additionally, I am burdening the Federal infrastructure and attempting to stress out as many Federal employees as possible. This is very personal.

Tyranny is implemented by individuals, and it is these individuals I make suffer, and will continue to do so. I want them to hate their jobs, and question their value as human beings. I want them to run screaming from their government job desks into the night, knowing that whatever horrors await them can't be as bad as those they left sitting in their "In" box.

Evil must have a cost, and I intend to extract it.


A verbis ad verbera

13 posted on 06/30/2009 3:30:54 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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I’ve been in “Galt Mode” since November.

Funny timing. Just this afternoon I was wondering how a nationwide movement to “starve the beast” could be encouraged.

My thought was an email to your congressman and both senators stating what you expect them to do or undo. Until then you will make no unnecessary purchases - No new cars, furniture, kitchen appliances, home remodeling/purchase, landscaping, clothing, toys, computers, music, movies, recreational activities that require significant expense and so on. Whatever non-essential purchases that you control.

Business owners likewise could promise no new employees, equipment purchases or business construction.

I don’t think it would take a larger percentage of Americans participating to have a noticeable affect.

Yeah, as mentioned it’s going to hurt some people. But we’re going to get hurt much more so by the actions of Congress. Might as well take the medicine now while it might be effective.


14 posted on 06/30/2009 3:36:19 PM PDT by sjmjax
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Enough food to eat at home. No more eating out. Rent and utilities. Essential medical services. Enough fuel to get to and from work. In addition any "excess withholding" is stopped; if you are getting a big fat refund from the IRS every year you are loaning the government your money at zero interest until April. Stop that; its stupid. Change your W4 so you get exactly nothing back or owe a tiny amount; if you pay estimates pay only that which you must and not one dime more.

Talk about being way ahead of the curve...
After September of 2008, when my 401(k) principal lost 45% of its value overnight, those "recommendations" became not an option, but a necessity. What I need now is survivalist suggestions to go beyond that. My current major discretionary spending is books. Any other suggestions besides buying used, which I am already doing?

16 posted on 06/30/2009 3:37:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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Another thing we could do would be to coordinate the mass cashing in of US Savings Bonds. It a small part of the debt but if we all acted on the same day, say, 9/11, it might send a message.


17 posted on 06/30/2009 3:40:58 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( How come when I press "1 for English" I still can't understand what's being said?)
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I'm definitely in seriously angry Galt mode.

Here's a related article.

21 posted on 06/30/2009 4:04:33 PM PDT by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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I’m already pretty much a non-consumer. I was going to buy my grandkids some school clothes next week and we are planning a trip to the water slide but that is just because
they only visit here once a year so could I hold off a week?


28 posted on 06/30/2009 4:26:43 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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The author wants to arrest all the crooks, & I do, too. Problem is, their jobs are then filled with more crooks who repeat the process. The success of our republican system is premised on HONORABLE people acting in the best interest of the people & nation. But there are very few honorable people in gov’t & big business. The vast majority are perverts, cheats, liars, & thieves, interested only in wealth & power. The honorable are overwhelmed, leaving our well-being in the hands of the corrupt.

In no system, however well crafted, can the people & nation prosper if the leaders are corrupt, immoral, & dishonorable. And to legislate more & more control & power only magnifies the corruption.

IMO, the only solution is a vastly smaller government with far less influence on the economy & social issues. The Feds should have ZERO dominion over Health, Education, Welfare, etc. - close the relevant bureaucracies, for good. Gov’t influence on business & the economy should be limited to catching/jailing thieves & fraudsters. Congress should be severely limited in the areas it can legislate. Interstate commerce regulations should REALLY be about interstate commerce. States rights should be preeminent on domestic social issues.

Perhaps if our gov't was much smaller, with little domestic influence, the corrupt might abandon gov't "service" as unprofitable. Or if we are doomed to be forever ruled by the corrupt, let them have as little power & influence as possible.

29 posted on 06/30/2009 4:26:57 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Wow...this is a totally timely article.

I've just started reading a new book about this very topic. I'm only up to the third chapter, but from what I can tell it's dealing exactly with what this article is talking about.

Starving The Monkeys: An Entrepreneurial Horror

33 posted on 06/30/2009 4:45:35 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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Two themes that conservatives should laser focus:

1) Reform the damn tax system-fair or flat-but it needs to change

2) Get rid of LAWYERS!!!!


40 posted on 06/30/2009 5:11:16 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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You are right. I've been doing this for a few months now and I know several others who have been as well.

If everyone did we might have some ammunition.

42 posted on 06/30/2009 5:24:26 PM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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