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Sarah Palin, New Party ?????
vanity | 07/03/2008 | taildragger

Posted on 07/03/2009 6:40:30 PM PDT by taildragger

Like many here, I am a political prognosticator. I followed Sarah Palin here for almost 2 years and told friends last May if McCain only chance is to pick Palin. So what does Sarah Palin's latest move mean?


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KEYWORDS: 2012; fedindictmentcoming; gopimplosion; independent; palin; parties; quitter; sarahbarraquitta
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1st, This women is a warrior, a basketball player, probably a chess player IMHO. This is move one. Move no 2?

New Party baby.

Why waste your time on the GOP that stabbed you in the back. What does she owe them? All the RINOS, Noonan, Bennett, Parker, Frum, Specter, and McCain etc that have thrown her overboard.

Visiting the Troops? How about 435+33 of them running as "Indies" in the 2010? Hey payback is a a you know what, and this women has been scorned. With GOP membership dropping some 27% from 38 to 28, how many disenfranchised Conservatives here would not dial the phones and go door to door until we are worn out to have a real CONSERVATIVE on any ticket. The way the GOP is going we aren't going to see that soon. My gut feel says she has something else up her sleeve like a new party, what say you....

1 posted on 07/03/2009 6:40:31 PM PDT by taildragger
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To: taildragger

BTTT....


2 posted on 07/03/2009 6:42:54 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Losing by 10 million votes, 7+ points, and more electoral votes than they carried proves you were wrong about her being McCain’s best shot.


3 posted on 07/03/2009 6:45:46 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: taildragger

We can hope. The republicans are spineless, and I see no benefit for her to run in a party that does not support her. If she forms a true conservative party, she could kill the republicans, and scare the **** out of the democrats.


4 posted on 07/03/2009 6:46:08 PM PDT by Lurkus Maximus
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To: taildragger

I wouldn’t object.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 6:46:32 PM PDT by allmost
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To: counterpunch

Would have been worse by 13 million votes if he picked anyone else. He was that bad.....


6 posted on 07/03/2009 6:46:38 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

CONSTITUTION Party, Sarah! You’re welcome aboard if you are sincere about governing accd. to the Original Intent of The Framers. I’d also be happy to see you join the Libertarian Party as well. The NeoCon GOP doesn’t deserve you & never did!


7 posted on 07/03/2009 6:46:40 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ChrisInAR
Chris...

DO ya think Chairman Steele is reachin' for the Kaopectate as we speak? :-)...

8 posted on 07/03/2009 6:48:20 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Maybe so.
But the theory that Sarah Palin could be competitive on a national stage was busted in November.
In the end, she didn’t help the ticket get even close.


9 posted on 07/03/2009 6:48:41 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: ChrisInAR

I love to see her join the Libertarian party


10 posted on 07/03/2009 6:49:27 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: taildragger
3rd parties have not worked since 1856. They are only a protest vote. I'm not interested in a suicide mission. Hell, Teddy Roosevelt couldn't do it. Ross Perot couldn't do it. George Wallace couldn't do it. The Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, and the Green parties couldn't do it.

It's either that we fix the GOP, or we get Obama for four more years, and Biden after that. That's the way it is.

11 posted on 07/03/2009 6:49:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: taildragger

She is the perfect person to start a second party that has a chance at winning.


12 posted on 07/03/2009 6:50:44 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com)
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To: taildragger

What a wild week...first; Rush hints at a ‘secret project’ he’s working on; now this...


13 posted on 07/03/2009 6:51:34 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Darren McCarty

I am not going fix it. Some cars are not restorable and are nto even parts cars, just send them to the crusher. That is the way I feel about the GOP right now.


14 posted on 07/03/2009 6:51:43 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: Lurkus Maximus

Yeah, the Democrats would be real scared by being the only party to hold power once their opposition splits itself in half...


15 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:11 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch
Totally wrong. Many people, including me only voted for McCain because she was on the ticket.

She connects with real Americans, which apparently you fail to understand. Wonder why?

16 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:23 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Secret project, I have not heard anything about this, when did he talk about this project, and maybe Sarah is involved in this project


17 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: taildragger
She needs to stay and fight the Republican establishment.
But if she joins or creates a 3rd party I'll support her.
18 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:42 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: taildragger
It probably is a good time to replace the Republican party, just like it replaced the Whigs. Over the last several years, the GOP has worked against its own basic principles and acted like a bunch of politicians who are interested in their own future more than service to the country.

So, what would be important for a new party of conservatives that could capture enough votes to become an actual replacement to one of the two existing parties? Here are my requirements:

1. Term limits. When politicians become lifers who are concerned about themselves more than their elected responsibilities, they become the same clowns we already have in office.

2. Fiscal responsibility. "Fiscal conservative" has been hijacked by lifer politicians and media types to mean "in favor of lower taxes". Fiscally responsible conservatives want to limit spending to expected tax revenues, and fiscally responsible liberals want to increase total tax revenues to meet desired spending levels. The two sides have to reach agreement and stop acting like the national debt is an imaginary number.

I'm sure everybody has their own version of what would be important to a new party. With the two things listed above, I can support a new party to replace the existing Republican party. Without them, a new party would just be more of the same.

19 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:45 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: taildragger

My gut feel says she has something else up her sleeve like a new party, what say you....


Maybe she can go join up with that Keyes fellar and help him raise his new party to a percent or two.


20 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:45 PM PDT by deport
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To: Lurkus Maximus

new party? hmmmm...... after all as Shakespeare said:

“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.”
a rose by any other name, is still a rose...

that said, she gains votes, which we will need desperately in order to win, if she runs as a Republican and uses the Republican moniker. My gut tells me that is the best move.
she only gains by running as a Republican, as did Reagan.


21 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:52 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: taildragger

3rd party would be a mistake.


22 posted on 07/03/2009 6:53:35 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: taildragger

She should run for the senate. She’d be a great addition.


23 posted on 07/03/2009 6:53:42 PM PDT by Terpin (Missing: One very clever and insightful tagline. Reward for safe return!)
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To: LifeComesFirst

And the mood it ripe for it, so many disguntled Conservatives that want their party of Reagan back, we got Clinton lite with the GOP at the moment and it makes me sick.


24 posted on 07/03/2009 6:53:56 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: who knows what evil?

looks like the right is self-destructing and the left have full reign at moment, with sanford, palin gone and new clown in senate


25 posted on 07/03/2009 6:54:11 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: counterpunch

The problem wasn’t Palin. It was McCain. No conservative was excited about him. They knew what he was. It was only after he picked Palin that I got excited about the party. McCain had no chance after the banking meltdown. Sarah couldn’t have revived Abe Lincoln after that debacle. Sarah is right on all the issues. Number one is “why are we begging the Saudi’s for their oil when it’s right here in Alaska”? This just boggles my mind. The answer is the Dems don’t want to find more oil. They want you on a bicycle to work. They think “oil is dirty” as Harry Reid said. The problem is that there are probably 200 million cars that make this country run and without them, we will be a third world banana republic. That is exactly where we’re headed with this “cap and tax” scam.


26 posted on 07/03/2009 6:55:20 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: taildragger

Well, one thing is sure - the Republican party won’t hunt!


27 posted on 07/03/2009 6:55:43 PM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Bernard

Well said thanks.


28 posted on 07/03/2009 6:55:44 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: 4rcane

Seems like we have some posers here!


29 posted on 07/03/2009 6:56:42 PM PDT by golfisnr1
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To: taildragger

IMHO, today, the GOP went from being the party of Sarah Palin to the party of Mehgan McCain. I’m outta there!


30 posted on 07/03/2009 6:56:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: 4rcane

I think she is a Drug Warrior to a certain degree, tho I hope that I am wrong & as a Governor she will respect State’s rights re: this & dozens of other issues. She has “admitted” to smoking pot, & I respect her for saying that she did.


31 posted on 07/03/2009 6:56:45 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: alarm rider

I totally believe that everyone who voted for McCain-Palin were voting for Sarah, not McCain.
But they still came up 10 million votes short, didn’t they?
Those are the hard figures.

When it came down to election day, 0bama had 10 million more supporters willing to go to the polls for him than Sarah had.
It’s time for the GOP to move on.
It would be political suicide to pull a Mondale with this chick.


32 posted on 07/03/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Michael Steele’s comment on the matter.

“I plan on talking to Governor Palin very soon. She is an important and galvanizing voice in the Republican Party. I believe she will be very helpful to the Party this year as we wage critical campaigns in Virginia and New Jersey. I am certain this has been a difficult decision for her to step down as Alaska’s governor. She has been a good governor for her state and I wish her and the Palin family the best during this transition.”


33 posted on 07/03/2009 6:57:01 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: counterpunch

“Chick”? What kind of silly leftist troll are you and just how in the hell have you avoided getting banned?

You must be the dumbest twit in the free world.


34 posted on 07/03/2009 7:00:26 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: taildragger

The Republican party needs to be transformed the way Reagan did in the ‘80’s. No third party ever worked - especially in conservatives favor (refer to 1992 Bush/Clintoon/Perot).

Sarah is positioning herself to be able to help other conservative candidates campaigning for House/Senate/Governors in 2010. She cannot tour the country and do this as Governor of Alaska. The DemonRATS will scrutinize every penny she spends (did it come from personal funds or Alaska taxpayer funds?). This is what she meant by “making a difference” in other ways than a state governor. It also allows her to have her voice heard in other venues besides the governors seat.


35 posted on 07/03/2009 7:01:10 PM PDT by peteram
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To: taildragger
I think she is going to reinvigorate the Separatist movement in Alaska and secede from the Union :) Watch this movement sky rocket.
36 posted on 07/03/2009 7:01:28 PM PDT by ladyL
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To: winoneforthegipper
Let me turnon my disgronifior and translate for Messr Steele....

The women thinks I'm a Clown_@$$ and has told me to hit the road...

What da Beep? I hope to talk to her? you have got to bee kidding me, No 1, he was not in the loop, 2 he probably doesn't have relationship with her to call, or she ain't takin them...

37 posted on 07/03/2009 7:01:30 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: counterpunch
With all the subterfuge from McCain's people, along with his shooting himself in his own foot, your statement in no way even approaches accuracy.
38 posted on 07/03/2009 7:02:11 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Proud heterosexual.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Rush made reference to a ‘secret project that kept him up until 5 a.m.’ during one of his shows earlier this week. I believe he said Mark Levin was also involved...beyond that; you’ve got me.


39 posted on 07/03/2009 7:02:58 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: alarm rider

” She connects with real Americans 2

True , but there are not enough of us to get her elected . And we’re dying off every day .


40 posted on 07/03/2009 7:03:32 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: taildragger

I think she has a high dollar contract as a commentator. It would allow her to present herself to the American people without the Drive-By media filter and put some money in the bank. Both increasing her viablility as a national politition.

If she goes third party, my estimation of her political skills will drop tremendiously. Third party is for making a point, not for winning. I have her pegged as a winner.


41 posted on 07/03/2009 7:03:47 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: taildragger
First of all, Bill Bennett is no RINO. Second of all, read my tagline.

Let's talk reality for a second. Although I sympathize and support your goals, let's look at history.

1) No independent party has won the White House in a century.

2) How long are you willing to be out of power to make an independent party viable? In 1994, the PCs were defeated in Canada. They have returned to power 12 years later as a minority party. The question to ask is: How much pain are you willing to endure for how long?

42 posted on 07/03/2009 7:04:10 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: who knows what evil?
Don't tell me they are all in on a new party!

The ultimate up yours to the blue-hair country clubbers in the North East!

He He, Romney is not amused....

43 posted on 07/03/2009 7:04:34 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Don’t form a new party. Run as an Independent.


44 posted on 07/03/2009 7:04:50 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: rtbwood

But Republicans across the board were excited about Sarah Palin. Once McCain picked her, they shot up 5 points ahead of 0bama. There was real excitement for the McCain-Palin ticket, and it was all because of Sarah...

and then she started to speak in public. She did interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric. She spilled her family dramas all over the press.

People lost their excitement over her and McCain settled back down to where he had been before he picked her.
Sarah had potential to carry the GOP to victory, but she didn’t live up. She had a great launch, but then she blew up in the atmosphere from due to mechanical failure.

She still has some very vocal supporters in some quarters of the social/religious conservative movement, by by and large most voters view her as not a serious individual.


45 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:14 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: sushiman

Do not despair, more are waking up every day.

We need leadership and voice. Americans, real Americans still live.


46 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:39 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: 4rcane
Do you mean Libertarian or Conservatarian? She is no traditional libertarian.
47 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:49 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

pardon me, Bennett feels Sarah is not the future of the Party, I disagree with him and IMHO he has been drifting leftward for a while, I call them as I see them.


48 posted on 07/03/2009 7:06:24 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: counterpunch

you’re so full of crap your stink comes through thr internet!


49 posted on 07/03/2009 7:06:31 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: counterpunch

Maybe so.
But the theory that Sarah Palin could be competitive on a national stage was busted in November.
In the end, she didn’t help the ticket get even close.

McCain lost the election. Without Palin, far fewer republicans and conservatives would have voted. She helped the ticket !!


50 posted on 07/03/2009 7:06:44 PM PDT by Pedrobud
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