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Sarah Palin, New Party ?????
vanity | 07/03/2008 | taildragger

Posted on 07/03/2009 6:40:30 PM PDT by taildragger

Like many here, I am a political prognosticator. I followed Sarah Palin here for almost 2 years and told friends last May if McCain only chance is to pick Palin. So what does Sarah Palin's latest move mean?


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KEYWORDS: 2012; fedindictmentcoming; gopimplosion; independent; palin; parties; quitter; sarahbarraquitta
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To: taildragger

I think she has a high dollar contract as a commentator. It would allow her to present herself to the American people without the Drive-By media filter and put some money in the bank. Both increasing her viablility as a national politition.

If she goes third party, my estimation of her political skills will drop tremendiously. Third party is for making a point, not for winning. I have her pegged as a winner.


41 posted on 07/03/2009 7:03:47 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: taildragger
First of all, Bill Bennett is no RINO. Second of all, read my tagline.

Let's talk reality for a second. Although I sympathize and support your goals, let's look at history.

1) No independent party has won the White House in a century.

2) How long are you willing to be out of power to make an independent party viable? In 1994, the PCs were defeated in Canada. They have returned to power 12 years later as a minority party. The question to ask is: How much pain are you willing to endure for how long?

42 posted on 07/03/2009 7:04:10 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: who knows what evil?
Don't tell me they are all in on a new party!

The ultimate up yours to the blue-hair country clubbers in the North East!

He He, Romney is not amused....

43 posted on 07/03/2009 7:04:34 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Don’t form a new party. Run as an Independent.


44 posted on 07/03/2009 7:04:50 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: rtbwood

But Republicans across the board were excited about Sarah Palin. Once McCain picked her, they shot up 5 points ahead of 0bama. There was real excitement for the McCain-Palin ticket, and it was all because of Sarah...

and then she started to speak in public. She did interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric. She spilled her family dramas all over the press.

People lost their excitement over her and McCain settled back down to where he had been before he picked her.
Sarah had potential to carry the GOP to victory, but she didn’t live up. She had a great launch, but then she blew up in the atmosphere from due to mechanical failure.

She still has some very vocal supporters in some quarters of the social/religious conservative movement, by by and large most voters view her as not a serious individual.


45 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:14 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: sushiman

Do not despair, more are waking up every day.

We need leadership and voice. Americans, real Americans still live.


46 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:39 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: 4rcane
Do you mean Libertarian or Conservatarian? She is no traditional libertarian.
47 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:49 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

pardon me, Bennett feels Sarah is not the future of the Party, I disagree with him and IMHO he has been drifting leftward for a while, I call them as I see them.


48 posted on 07/03/2009 7:06:24 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: counterpunch

you’re so full of crap your stink comes through thr internet!


49 posted on 07/03/2009 7:06:31 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: counterpunch

Maybe so.
But the theory that Sarah Palin could be competitive on a national stage was busted in November.
In the end, she didn’t help the ticket get even close.

McCain lost the election. Without Palin, far fewer republicans and conservatives would have voted. She helped the ticket !!


50 posted on 07/03/2009 7:06:44 PM PDT by Pedrobud
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To: ladyL
I think she is going to reinvigorate the Separatist movement in Alaska and secede from the Union :) Watch this movement sky rocket.

Never happen, too many Liberals in the State. Was a different story when Hickle was Governor and Alaska is not the same place it use to be.

51 posted on 07/03/2009 7:07:23 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: taildragger

Without her, his contribution goals are history.

She without a doubt has the RNC on their knee’s now.

To think some even on here today have called her naive at best.


52 posted on 07/03/2009 7:08:39 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: counterpunch; taildragger

>>>> Losing by 10 million votes, 7+ points, and more electoral votes than they carried proves you were wrong about her being McCain’s best shot. <<<<

As one who is *not* a Palin cheerleader, I’m really surprised by your completely illogical comment.

That McCain lost by those numbers “proves” absolutely nothing about Palin.

Indeed and quite the opposite, it’s fairly common knowledge that Palin greatly improved McCain’s standing in the election.


53 posted on 07/03/2009 7:10:35 PM PDT by angkor
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To: winoneforthegipper
She without a doubt has the RNC on their knee’s now.

Win one...

How many Gop-er friends do you have that have given up contributing and give them a verbal rash when they call...

I am sure you know some.

54 posted on 07/03/2009 7:11:03 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: counterpunch

Who is your candidate?


55 posted on 07/03/2009 7:11:54 PM PDT by afnamvet (I see stupid people.)
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To: alarm rider; counterpunch

counterpunch is a good FReeper, he’s not a troll, but he’s just wrong on the Palin threads.


56 posted on 07/03/2009 7:12:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: counterpunch
I totally believe that everyone who voted for McCain-Palin were voting for Sarah, not McCain. But they still came up 10 million votes short, didn’t they?

There's a certain logic to what you're saying, but it won't hold true in 2012.

1. 2008 was in large part about President Bush, and in lesser parts about Iraq, the economy, and the sense that the country was heading in the wrong direction.

2. Obama was an unknown quantity, and actually used his mysterious status to great advantage. Hope and change meant whatever the voter wanted it to mean.

3. McCain is unpopular with Republicans and would have been decimated if not for Palin. While they ultimately got less votes, her late arrival to his campaign still helped him avoid a total rout.

4. The novelty factor. Lots of people voted with their American Idol instincts.

2012 will be vastly different. Obama is wearing the 'President Bush' hat now. You can't be the Hope and Change candidate when you're the Man. You can't be the mysterious intellectual outsider-to-the-rescue when everyone watched you run the country into the poorhouse for the last 4 years. Obama's no longer a novelty, either. He'll be hip, and cool, and beloved. Just not respected as a leader.

In short, a lot of the pillars of Obama's strength will be weakened or destroyed by 2012, whereas Palin's will not.

57 posted on 07/03/2009 7:12:47 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Oh, well. Back to the drawing board....)
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To: taildragger

I hope she takes the time to kick a few asses around in the GOP first.


58 posted on 07/03/2009 7:12:58 PM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS!!!)
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To: Perdogg

That’s right.
If Sarah Palin couldn’t beat 0bama in 2008 as a Republican, how could she beat him in 2012 while splitting the vote with a Republican?
There just aren’t enough votes out there for her to make up the difference. There aren’t even enough Palin supporters out there to outnumber 0bama supporters at the polls.

The idea is a non-starter. Instead, the GOP needs to field a strong candidate and get a unified message. All the intra-party divisions Sarah Palin and her supporters are creating only helps 0bama win reelection.

I’m not even sure Palin is really on our side. I think she is here to sabotage the GOP, create division, and help 0bama win. Her 2008 implosion was very convenient for 0bama, don’t you think? Interesting that she went to college in Hawaii, too... she must have met 0bama there and hatched a nefarious plot to make him Dictator for life. All if going according to plan. They now enter Phase II...


59 posted on 07/03/2009 7:13:07 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: taildragger

Many, in fact most.


60 posted on 07/03/2009 7:13:39 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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