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Pentagon Denies Flyover of Patriotic 'God and Country Rally' in Nampa Idaho
Christian Newswire ^ | July 3, 2009

Posted on 07/03/2009 7:45:45 PM PDT by Man50D

Contact: Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Christian Defense Coalition, 540-538-4741, 202-547-1735; Brandi Swindell, Director, Generation Life, 208-867-1307; Patti Syme, Director, The God and Country Rally, 208-573-9300

NAMPA, Idaho, July 3 /Christian Newswire/ -- This marks the first time in the 42 year history of the event that a flyover request was denied by the Pentagon.

The event is held ever year to honor the spiritual foundations of our country with a special emphasis on the men and women who serve in the armed forces.

In past years, the "God and Country Rally" has focused on honoring and paying tribute to those veterans who have served our nation in the past and those who are currently on active duty.

At the rally this year, all five branches of the armed services were featured with over 60 new recruits sworn into the military at the event.

After a phone conversation and an e-mail response from the Pentagon, Rally Director Patti Syme says they were denied the request for a flyover this year because of the "Christian" nature of the event.

The e-mail from the Pentagon can be seen here.

The Christian Defense Coalition says this is a "slap in the face" to all those who have proudly served or are currently on active duty in the armed services.

The group is concerned that this new policy may indicate an open hostility toward public expressions of faith by the Obama Administration.

Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, states,

"For years, flyovers have been allowed by the Pentagon at the 'God and Country Rally' in Nampa Idaho. These flyovers were not to endorse or promote any one religious faith tradition. Rather, they were held to honor and pay tribute to our heroic men and women who have served or are currently serving in our armed forces.

"For the Obama Administration to deny a flyover for the first time, is a slap in the face to all those who proudly serve our country especially when we are at war. These flyovers have been a special part of the 'God and Country Rally' for many years.

"Will the new policy of President Obama be that a person has to surrender their faith tradition to honor and pay tribute to our courageous men and women who serve in the military?

"With respect to the economic concerns that the Pentagon mentioned, I would answer this way. If we can pay hundreds thousands of dollars for President Obama to go on a date with his wife to see a Broadway show and have an expensive dinner in New York City, we can certainly find a way to honor our brave men and women who serve in the armed services with a simple flyover.

"The Christian Defense Coalition will diligently work to reverse this unjust policy and determine why this flyover was denied in the first place."

Brandi Swindell, national Christian activist and Director of Generation Life, based in Idaho, adds,

"For the Pentagon to deny this flyover for the first time in the history of our state is deeply troubling and disturbing.

"During a time of war and especially around the 4th of July we should be doing all within our power as a nation to honor and respect our military.

"It must be stressed that the flyover was not to honor Christianity but to honor our fallen heroes who have proudly given their lives to protect our country and advance the cause of liberty around the world.

"Does this mean in the future that all public rallies must be stripped of any expressions of faith to respect our military? This Administration should be protecting religious expression in the public square not crushing it.

"I hope that President Obama will reverse this unjust policy and next year we will be allowed to give the military the honor they deserve."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: bhodod; christians; flyover; mahoney
Last part of title: "Because of its Christian Content"
1 posted on 07/03/2009 7:45:45 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

The e-mail from the Pentagon:

Thank you for your request for Air Force aviation support during God and Country Festival on 01 Jul
2009 in Nampa , ID.
We have carefully reviewed this particular event. As you may recall from the request form’s
instructions, the Department of Defense (DoD) authorizes the Air Force to participate in flyovers for
those recognition events held in direct support of the five patriotic holidays (Armed Forces Day,
Memorial Day, Independence Day, POW-MIA Day and Veterans Day) and for aviation-related events,
such as airshows and airport dedications. Sporting events that fall on one of the five patriotic holidays
mentioned above are not considered to be events held in direct support of a holiday commemoration
and will require a waiver.
Your Air Force aviation support request doesn’t fall into either approved category, as such, we are
unable to approve it. Air Force and DoD policy prohibit support for events which appear to endorse,
selectively benefit, or favor any special interest group, religious or ideological movement.
With an increasingly high operations tempo and limited resources to meet our training and operational
commitments, we are required to take a hard look at all of our requests and carefully follow our
policies and guidelines. In denying your request, we are not questioning the worthiness of the event,
but rather enforcing DoD and Air Force policy to preserve the operational and training requirements of
our aviation units and to practice the prudent stewardship of taxpayer-financed resources.
We hope that you can appreciate and understand our position. We believe that your event will,
nevertheless, be a success. Any further questions can be referred to me at 703-695-9664.
Tech. Sgt. Roy Utley
Aviation Support
703-695-9664 Phone
703-693-9601 Fax


2 posted on 07/03/2009 7:48:27 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

But they can send the white house terror plane over new york city!


3 posted on 07/03/2009 7:49:25 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Man50D

Keep it up Obama and your pentagon tag alongs. You are opening the way for Sarah.


4 posted on 07/03/2009 7:50:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Man50D

Hope the libs are happy. “zero”, the first President who actually hates America and Christianity. He hid it from a lot of sheep during the campaign, with the help of the msm, but now makes no bones about it.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 7:55:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Man50D

BO has got to go. I suggest impeachment for misdemeanor....he is not carrying out the duties of the Office of President in a manner befitting the Office.


6 posted on 07/03/2009 7:56:51 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Man50D
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams --October 11, 1798
7 posted on 07/03/2009 7:56:52 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Jeff Head

Good News!!!
Obama is putting a nail in his own coffin every day. He’s committing political suicide!


8 posted on 07/03/2009 8:00:17 PM PDT by adanaC (Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.)
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To: stboz
BO has got to go. I suggest impeachment for misdemeanor....he is not carrying out the duties of the Office of President in a manner befitting the Office.

Interesting you should make this comment. I refer you to the following website. I recommend you read it thoroughly as there is a lot of information to digest.

www.americangrandjury.org
9 posted on 07/03/2009 8:00:51 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D
THEN:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.
It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same,
or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children
and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
"
President Ronald Reagan

NOW:

"Obama Obama shifts FBI from Counter Terrorism to Fraud"

"Victims of Cole bombing upset
"A top officer slammed Obama's decision to seek the withdrawal of charges against the 2000 suspected U.S.S. Cole ship bomber."
>

"Impeach Obama Says Sister of Cole Sailor Killed in Terror Attacks
"The sister of Seaman James McDaniels, a sailor killed in the terror attack on the U.S.S. Cole wants President Barack Hussein Obama impeached
over his decision to withdraw charges against the al Qaeda mastermind of the attack."

"Mother of USS Cole Sailor Declines Obama-meet, Says "I Voted for the Wrong Person"
"After Obama dropped the charges against the suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole,
he asked the families of the victims in that tragedy to meet with him.
One mother refused, and now says,"I voted for the wrong person."


10 posted on 07/03/2009 8:01:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Man50D; NormsRevenge; SouthTexas; glock rocks

Sounds like the Nascar fly overs may be nixed if they continue to have a prayer before the race?


11 posted on 07/03/2009 8:02:31 PM PDT by tubebender (I just discovered where all my lost tag lines went...)
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To: Man50D

No surprise here. Our Boy Scout troop always requests congratulatory letters from the White House to present to our new Eagle Scouts at their award ceremonies. The office of the “Undocumented One” has not responded to our requests. Either they are hopelessly inept in these matters or they don’t care to congratulate Eagle Scouts. (or both . . . )


12 posted on 07/03/2009 8:04:06 PM PDT by Think free or die ((The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher))
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To: All

Democrats are Christian haters...very simple stuff.

I always remind my Dem family members at the 4th of July picnic that this is the reality that they deny.

I flip good burgers or I’d be loathed.


13 posted on 07/03/2009 8:04:23 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: Eagles6
He hid it from a lot of sheep during the campaign, with the help of the msm, but now makes no bones about it.

Actually a lot of the sheep hate America as much as zero does. The idea of having to work for something is as old-fashioned as an unbiased media. Communism's been their goal since the Sixties.

14 posted on 07/03/2009 8:05:12 PM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: tflabo

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams —October 11, 1798”

That is why it so inadequate for the One: not moral, nor religious.

I know, I just repeated the intent of your quote, but it is for emphasis.


15 posted on 07/03/2009 8:06:10 PM PDT by elpinta
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To: Bernard Marx

True.


16 posted on 07/03/2009 8:07:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Man50D
I say they go ahead and do a fly over.
TRADITION!

The military served OUR country, not Barry Soetoro. Barry is only serving himself.

oh, and, I hope that barry won't be residing at the WH next year.

17 posted on 07/03/2009 8:13:17 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: tubebender

Prolly not if the pastor is wearing a rag and has his butt in the air.


18 posted on 07/03/2009 8:23:26 PM PDT by glock rocks (... just tryin to make do...)
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To: Think free or die; Man50D

“The office of the “Undocumented One” has not responded to our requests. “

Recommend you advise the “Office” that you have a large number of young muslim boys scheduled for awards and you would appreciate a timely response. Having both requests side by side with only one response will be priceless.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/1st-amendment-petition.html


19 posted on 07/03/2009 8:26:28 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
oh, and, I hope that barry won't be residing at the WH next year.

You may want to consider investigating this website. I recommend reading all the information thoroughly. www.americangrandjury.org
20 posted on 07/03/2009 8:27:52 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: elpinta; tflabo

You just may have helped us understand what O had in mind when he said “the U.S. Constitution is fundamentally flawed”.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/1st-amendment-petition.html


21 posted on 07/03/2009 8:29:06 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: tubebender; glock rocks
They may be coming to a halt so I'm glad we have pics of the way it used to be. And then there's not many flyovers like this one at grandson's peewee football game:


22 posted on 07/03/2009 8:31:11 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Happy Independence Day!)
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To: Man50D
"For the Obama Administration to deny a flyover for the first time, is a slap in the face to all those who proudly serve our country especially when we are at war. These flyovers have been a special part of the 'God and Country Rally' for many years.

"Will the new policy of President Obama be that a person has to surrender their faith tradition to honor and pay tribute to our courageous men and women who serve in the military?



Cloud over the failing Obama presidency.

23 posted on 07/03/2009 8:35:35 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Man50D

At the NASCAR race at Infineon Raceway last month, the reverend said a prayer and then the AF did a flyby. I’m sure the atheists have all NASCAR races in their sights, too.


24 posted on 07/03/2009 8:40:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Think free or die

O is a closet homosexual and anti-American...he would never acknowledge this truly wonderful organization for boys that does not allow pedophiles like the German equivalent did (Hitler Youth) to mentor and seduce young impressionable boys. Eagle Scouts are as American as Apple Pie and probably makes Zero puke. So does the Founding Father’s God....O only bows to allah.


25 posted on 07/03/2009 8:52:01 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Man50D
I would suggest they contact one of the many organizations around the country that maintain and fly warbirds, the fighting craft of yesterday. I would much rather see an F-86 Sabre Jet or a vintage WWII four-engine, piston and prop bomber! Or maybe even a couple of dozen great old warbirds like P-51 Mustangs and P-38’s!

Nope, I would be for telling BO and company to buzz off. We'll just go with the aircraft that represent the nation as it was in pre-BO days. I would also make certain as many of the warbirds were being piloted by current members of the armed services as possible. My heart really goes out to those who took the oath and now have to serve under the Great Pretender.

We are going to have get creative for the next few years and find ways to show Team-BO for what they really are.

26 posted on 07/03/2009 9:08:32 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: Man50D
Nampa? Maybe they (too late this year) should contact The Warhawk Air Museum in Nampa, to help find a group of willing pilots of ex-military aircraft who would be willing, along the lines of a Wing or Squadron of the Confederate (Commemerative?) Air Force.

Gee, with a bit of work, they might manage to have war birds in the air, and Rolling Thunder bikes on the ground; who would need the Pentagon?

27 posted on 07/04/2009 1:09:35 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: Man50D

Time to replace BO with an American.


28 posted on 07/04/2009 1:12:43 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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To: tubebender

now that would just be bizarre.

but what have the last 6 months been? ;-)


29 posted on 07/04/2009 9:02:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Man50D

I realize everyone is really upset about this, especially given the historical nature of the fly over, but this denial represents the enforcement of longstanding DoD, not Presidential/ Obama or otherwise policy. Looking at the God and Country mainpage, the primary goal of the festival was evangelism. If the AF supported an evangelical outreach they would also have to support Muslim, Hindu, Scientologist, etc. evangelism events.

For anyone interested here’s the offical AF response:

The guidelines applied by the Air Force that govern the approval process for aircraft flyovers are stipulated by Department of Defense regulations. These guidelines are not the result of new policies directed by any other agency or government office.

Each aviation request received is evaluated and considered on its own merits. In the case of the God and Country Festival, the determination was made that flyover support would not be in accordance with Air Force and DoD policy which prohibits support for events which appear to endorse, selectively benefit, or favor any special interest or religious organization, regardless of the event date.

Several other similar events were determined ineligible this year for the same reasons as the God and Country Festival. The Air Force carefully scrutinizes the purpose and overall missions of those organizations interested in receiving aviation support. Each request is reviewed on a case-by-case basis to determine if it’s in the best interest of the Air Force to support and meets all applicable guidelines set forth in both DoD and AF policy.


30 posted on 07/07/2009 7:34:47 AM PDT by Savage219
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To: Savage219

bump


31 posted on 08/14/2009 3:54:30 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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