Posted on 07/07/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by TheRiverNile
You wrote:
“A dog tends to behave like a dog. A cat tends to behave like a cat. The old man is a sinner who sometimes does a good thing. The new man awaits the redemption of the body, but is guided by the Spirit.”
And yet both the new man and the old man are both sinners and will continue to be so. And neither has absolute assurance of salvation. The new man, however, has hope or salvation as St. Paul said, but the old man has nothing.
You wrote:
“Post 793 could be described as, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
It would actually best be described as
Sirach
Chapter 2
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1 My son, when you come to serve the LORD, prepare yourself for trials.
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Be sincere of heart and steadfast, undisturbed in time of adversity.
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Cling to him, forsake him not; thus will your future be great.
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Accept whatever befalls you, in crushing misfortune be patient;
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For in fire gold is tested, and worthy men in the crucible of humiliation.
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Trust God and he will help you; make straight your ways and hope in him.
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You who fear the LORD, wait for his mercy, turn not away lest you fall.
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You who fear the LORD, trust him, and your reward will not be lost.
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You who fear the LORD, hope for good things, for lasting joy and mercy.
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Study the generations long past and understand; has anyone hoped in the LORD and been disappointed? Has anyone persevered in his fear and been forsaken? has anyone called upon him and been rebuffed?
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Compassionate and merciful is the LORD; he forgives sins, he saves in time of trouble.
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2 Woe to craven hearts and drooping hands, to the sinner who treads a double path!
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Woe to the faint of heart who trust not, who therefore will have no shelter!
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Woe to you who have lost hope! what will you do at the visitation of the LORD?
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Those who fear the LORD disobey not his words; those who love him keep his ways.
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Those who fear the LORD seek to please him, those who love him are filled with his law.
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Those who fear the LORD prepare their hearts and humble themselves before him.
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Let us fall into the hands of the LORD and not into the hands of men, For equal to his majesty is the mercy that he shows.
I’m afraid some folks here will never truly understand what it means to be born again of the Spirit of God. Very sad.
But thank God that there will be a remnant from these churches that will not bow the knee to the tyrant.
Excellent, as always.
Thanks for the ping!
INDEED.
PRAISE GOD.
Mary,
Please explain in more detail what you mean by “remnant”... I think we may have a couple of different interpretations of this word... Personally I believe that the “remnant” in the “church age” which we are presently in INCLUDES all of those who are saved and does not refer to a paticular “organization” of human design....
No, it’s not of human design. IMO, it’s those who are saved and still following the Lord, those who have not been deceived by the anti-christ. Unfortunately, many ‘church goers’ will fall away, but His children will not.
Mary,
Please expain what you mean by “saved and still following the Lord”? Please explain your view on the seven year Tribulation Period as described in the Book of Revelation.
Are the “Saved” going to be present during that time?
Since I’m a pre-wrath believer, I think the saved will be taken away just before the Lord pours out His wrath on the unsaved, unbelievers. Others who are pre-trib, the most common belief, feel differently. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
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