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Episcopal Bishop calls individual salvation 'heresy,' 'idolatry'
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Posted on 07/09/2009 6:03:13 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: rstrahan
Agreed. I was raised as an Episcopalian but after reading the Bible in its entirety (something few Episcopalians do these days), I find it more and more difficult to go to services every week. I think I get a better understanding of my faith listening to podcasts by Mark Driscoll, John Piper, Gary Wilkerson and R.C. Sproul while I’m outside working in the yard and mowing the lawn than during the 10-minute sermon about the Millenium Development Goals at my church. It’s sad how the Episcopal Church has become nothing more than just another vehicle to promote Socialism and various other left wing causes.
To: IbJensen
Hmmmm. She needs to read the part in the Bible about female bishops/pastors.
To: TheZMan
"Sounds like this Bishop needs to read the Bible a bit more." Actually, she needs to take off the pants and the robe, put her apron back on and get back in the kitchen, shut up and do as she's told... as God intended. :-)
There, that's done...
;-/
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:37:29 AM PDT
by
Gargantua
("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
To: opus86
Lordy. The Anglican Church keeps going further and further into la la land. It is very sad to watch that shipwreck.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:37:46 AM PDT
by
firebasecody
(Orthodoxy, telling it straight since AD 33)
To: wayoverthehill
You’re welcome in the Catholic Church ... :-)
To: yldstrk
God to bishop you are firedLiterally.
To: Jackson57
This the same woman (I refuse to call her Bishop) who referred to Tiller as a saint and a martyr. How proud members of the Episcopal Church must be, having this person as head of their church. Almost as proud as they much have been when their gay bishop in NH announced that hed always wanted to be June bride.No...it was The (Wrong) Rt. Rev. Katherine Ragsdale (but also an Episcopal bishop)
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:42:48 AM PDT
by
meandog
(Doh!)
To: blue-duncan
Fear not, bd; this comes from a woman who wears a rainbow oven mitt as a mitre! She and her comic book theology are enough to gag a maggot on a fence post a quarter of a mile away.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:43:31 AM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: Gay State Conservative
“Sounds a lot like the new Dean of the Harvard Divinity School (which is essentially an Episcopalian entity) publicly declaring that abortion is a blessing”
You’ve got to be joking!
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:44:10 AM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
To: IbJensen
Is this the same female bishop who proclaimed “Abortion is a gift”?
Ooops. Now I remember. That was the newfemale head of the Episcopal Seminary.
Lord, have Mercy!
To: anniegetyourgun
Spirit of Antichrist. “Hath God said?”
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:46:16 AM PDT
by
savedbygrace
(You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
To: IbJensen
In a few short sentences the priestess babbles like an obomba sycophant.Here is her complete speech. She has a fondness for the word Ubuntu, a term coined by South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu.
Reading between the lines, she's saying you can't be Christian without being Socialist.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:46:39 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
To: P8riot
What I’m wondering is - what does she believe is “correct doctrine”?
That we must work to achieve “collective” salvation?
Let me guess, only through achieving “social justice” can we achieve our collective salvation, and thus our own individual salvation.
I’m putting the over/under on that at 85.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:46:44 AM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: keats5
I’ve found that whenever scripture demolishes liberal doctrine,
the liberal being demolished will either claim another “equally valid interpretation” or that scripture itself is not divine revelation.
In other words, they choose their worldly (Satan inspired) religion over the Gospel.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:48:41 AM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: meandog
You’re correct. I got confused.
This is about the loss of a man who was a saint and a martyr. He was a prayerful man who put his life at risk to protect others and died for it. People are in shock, outrage and mourning. They need a place to go. - “Rt Rev” Katherine Ragsdale
To: Ozone34
Is she incoherently trying to frame a modernist Pelagian type heresy? After A. Comte, the individual is subordinate to the community, and so perhaps in her view the attainment of Gods grace can only be obtained by the community and not by individual effort. You got it, that's what she's doing. See my post #52.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:49:53 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
To: yldstrk; uptoolate
hey genius, there are a lot of conscienceless men out there and I a woman will instruct them in court if need be about what their obligations are to the women they impregnated when it was a good time and the babies they created. Furthermore, you may stfu it has nothing to with anatomy and everything to do with a godly developed character.Either of you ever hear about "Lilith"? She supposedly was Adam's 1st wife and was created from the same dust as he, rather than from a rib, therefore she was on equal footing...according to the Biblical legend. Adam wanted her back.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:49:53 AM PDT
by
meandog
(Doh!)
To: Kolokotronis
That’s funny right there.
Looks like she could be an extra in
“Killer Klowns from Outer Space”
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:50:17 AM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: savedbygrace
Satan, since the beginning, has tried to place doubt on God’s Word.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:50:58 AM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: IbJensen
This is actually an old debate within the Church - can we be forgiven without uttering the traditional confession of sin, in other words by Faith Alone? Theologians have argued this since the days of the early Church. The Thief on the cross is usually used as the point of argument. Remember the thief on the cross, who said only, “remember me when you enter your Fathers Kingdom. The same thief on the cross is also used by some to prove water baptism is not essential to enter Heaven.
I'm not a Theologian, so I'll just confess my sins and have faith they they were already paid for on that cross. But it seems wrong to me for this Bishop to call those on the other side of the debate idolterers.
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posted on
07/09/2009 6:51:09 AM PDT
by
NavyCanDo
(Stop Freakin, Try Freepin)
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