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White House Kept Justice Lawyers in Dark on Warrantless Wiretapping
The Washington Post ^ | 10 July 2009 | Carrie Johnson

Posted on 07/10/2009 11:55:55 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

The Bush White House so strictly controlled access to its warrantless eavesdropping program that only three Justice Department lawyers were aware of the plan, which nearly ignited mass resignations and a constitutional crisis when a wider circle of administration officials began to question its legality, according to a watchdog report released today.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; fisa; justice; wiretapping
The liberals attacked Bush for not "connnecting the dots" over 9/11 and then attacked Bush for trying to "connect the dots" prior to the next attack.
1 posted on 07/10/2009 11:55:56 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

“that only three Justice Department lawyers were aware of the plan”

Should make it easy to figure out who told the New York Times then.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 11:59:45 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: edcoil

well played.


3 posted on 07/10/2009 12:00:13 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: Erik Latranyi
Headline: White House Kept Justice Lawyers in Dark...
First line: only three Justice Department lawyers were aware of the plan...

This is why big city Democrat newspapers like the Washington Post are dying (even if not fast enough).

Anyway, the program was supposed to be hush hush in the first place, so why would an entire stable of scumbag lawyers, including loads of rat lawyers, be briefed about it? So the inevitable leaks would be tougher, if not impossible, to identify?

4 posted on 07/10/2009 12:01:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Erik Latranyi
The Bush Justice Department

Many conservatives burrowed within the Department of Justice have long complained that Gonzales (and therefore, Bush) has permitted career government employees and hold-overs from Democratic Administrations to remain in perches of power and thereby water down conservative directives from the top. As one conservative and Federalist Society member in the Justice Department told me: “This is definitely not Ronald Reagan’s Justice Department, I assure you. You have holdovers from Clinton calling the shots in a lot of places here.”

- - John Gizzi from: Should Gonzales Go?
Human Events | March 20, 2007 |

5 posted on 07/10/2009 12:03:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

That July 4 “off the record” meeting apparently got some people back on the Kool Aid/enabling path..


6 posted on 07/10/2009 12:03:40 PM PDT by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: Lancey Howard

That July 4 “off the record” meeting apparently got some people back on the Kool Aid/enabling path..


7 posted on 07/10/2009 12:04:08 PM PDT by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: Erik Latranyi

8 posted on 07/10/2009 12:06:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Erik Latranyi

Fine, now lets get back to the Pelosi lies, corruption in congress, the Senate, the White House and getting millions of unemployed citizens back to work.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 12:07:11 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

My grandchildren will be gone and the MSM will still be beating up on Bush.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 12:08:39 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Erik Latranyi
The Bush White House so strictly controlled access to its warrantless eavesdropping program that only three Justice Department lawyers were aware of the plan, which nearly ignited mass resignations and a constitutional crisis when a wider circle of administration officials began to question its legality, according to a watchdog report released today.

Hmmmmm . . . . . . the WaPo??? How do I doubt this? Let me count the ways!!

11 posted on 07/10/2009 12:08:41 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: edcoil

That’s right and more garbage spews.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 12:08:49 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Headline: White House Kept Justice Lawyers in Dark...

It’s so transparent. When Obama approval numbers are down it’s time to go after Bush again. Hell, even John Dean is in the news today.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 12:12:48 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Erik Latranyi

Obama’s numbers are slipping, time for the media to trot out some more Bush articles and whip up the BDS - keep people’s eyes off our government’s support of a dictatorship in Honduras, Obama’s promise to leave our allies without a missile shield, and the pathetic impact of 800Billion in stimulus funds.

It’s all Bush’s fault. Please like me.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 12:21:32 PM PDT by dannyboy72a (The President of the United States should not be selling me insurance or lightbulbs)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Bush’s Fault is getting very old and lame now. Act like a man Obama. quit blaming someone else when the tough get going and you’re jello.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 12:26:12 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: Erik Latranyi
White House Kept Justice Lawyers in Dark on Warrantless Wiretapping

and then

three Justice Department lawyers were aware of the plan

Doesn't the story contradict itself in the very first sentence?
16 posted on 07/10/2009 12:28:16 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Erik Latranyi
The Washington Post - Americas Terrorist Newspaper
17 posted on 07/10/2009 12:31:23 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Have you punished an 0bama supporter today?)
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To: WoodstockCat
At the same time the fact "other administration officials" began to question part of the Commander In Chief's plan to protect us from AlQaida and other very real enemies strongly suggests there were "traitors in the ranks".

So, who are they and when do we get to hang them?

18 posted on 07/10/2009 12:34:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Erik Latranyi

Just what in these reports has not already been in the news?


19 posted on 07/10/2009 12:41:23 PM PDT by norton
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To: Erik Latranyi
...which nearly ignited mass resignations...

Too bad they didn't follow through. I can't think of any downside to having fewer lawyers in the justice department or anywhere else.

20 posted on 07/10/2009 12:46:59 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Erik Latranyi

The way it should be. Now our enemies know everything and are getting let loose on tropical islands instead of incarcerated at GITMO.


21 posted on 07/10/2009 12:52:11 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

” only three Justice Department lawyers were aware of the plan,”
“ wider circle of administration officials began to question its legality”

anyone besides me see a problem here?


22 posted on 07/10/2009 1:12:59 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Erik Latranyi

Consider the source.

23 posted on 07/10/2009 1:13:34 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

You can tell things are going badly for the Obamanuts since they are trotting out the old, worn out “Bush lied” canard.


24 posted on 07/10/2009 1:15:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yet Barack Obama is Continuing the Program and there is not a PEEP. The Libs as usual want it both ways.


25 posted on 07/10/2009 1:29:49 PM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“when a wider circle of administration officials began to question its legality”.

If it was so tightly controlled how did they all find out?
Heads should have rolled.


26 posted on 07/10/2009 1:31:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Doesn’t the first sentence contradict the title?

A mor accurate title would be, “Bush White House informed only a few selected officials at the Justice Department.”


27 posted on 07/10/2009 1:36:50 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: Erik Latranyi
where is the barf alert?


28 posted on 07/10/2009 2:08:40 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Good for the Bush team, then!
29 posted on 07/10/2009 2:09:23 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Obama administration propaganda alert. I guess the economy isn’t doing so well.


30 posted on 07/10/2009 2:13:12 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Erik Latranyi

“The liberals attacked Bush for not “connnecting the dots” over 9/11 and then attacked Bush for trying to “connect the dots” prior to the next attack.”
++++++++++++++

Bush/Cheney was/is their favorite target. *Anyone* who tries to protect us from another largest mass murder in history, will be screwed by the libtards...that’s who they are, that’s what they do..


31 posted on 07/10/2009 2:20:32 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: Erik Latranyi

The media prostitutes apparently have a shortage of news, so they talk about Bush. They should be talking about the fact that 3.4 million more people are unemployed now than when the Socialist Obama took office. Obama is a dismal failure.

Meanwhile, Obama and many of his fellow Socialists have said the “stimulus package” is working. But then they say more “stimulus” may be needed. And then Obama claims he didn’t have all the facts about the economy. Which facts was he missing? Obama and the other Socialists don’t bother to tell us that only 7% to 10% of the $787 billion “stimulus package” has been spent.

Despite 9.5% and rising unemployment, Obama has stated that he intends to let the Bush tax cuts expire. That alone will result in a few more million lost jobs. Plus, Obama is hell-bent on cap & trade, which will make electricity costs skyrocket, resulting in the loss of a few more million jobs. And Congress is increasing the minimum wage from $6.55 to $7.25 per hour effective July 24th, which will result in the elimination of more jobs. Plus, the Demo-Socialists want a surtax on the so-called “rich” to pay for socialized medicine, and a fine on individuals and/or companies who fail to obtain medical insurance, which will result in more lost jobs and more people forced into government medicine.

In summary, Obama and his Socialist Congress have a plan to destroy the economy and our freedom. This is not accidental or due to inexperience. It is premeditated, deliberate, evil and contrary to the Constitution.

Unemployment is heading for 20%.


32 posted on 07/10/2009 2:55:07 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: muawiyah

Bush should have called their bluff re the protesting lawyers and fired all of them. He should have cleaned out the Augean stables at Justice the day he took office. Too many Democratic weasels and whimps.

ANd he should have fired his own Republican cowards who caved in to Sandy the Burglar Berge and gave him a slap on the wrist for destroying Top Secret US policy documents.

I hate cowards and traitors.


33 posted on 07/10/2009 9:06:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: jakerobins

“Yet Barack Obama is Continuing the Program and there is not a PEEP. The Libs as usual want it both ways.”

Here’s the deal. The Repubs are fine with the President overstepping the law and the constitution to protect us from terrorists. They trust him not to misuse this power. The dems are not trusting of a Repub president and want him to be bound by the law of the land, but they don’t worry about their hero O misuing the power.

Me, I worry about allowing any president to ignore the law or the constitution. Loss of freedom is more likely to come from within than from without.


34 posted on 07/10/2009 9:49:01 PM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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To: Lancey Howard

“Many conservatives burrowed within the Department of Justice have long complained that Gonzales (and therefore, Bush) has permitted career government employees and hold-overs from Democratic Administrations to remain in perches of power and thereby water down conservative directives from the top. “

What about Attorney General Ashcroft, who wouldn’t sign off on the program, though he was requested to do so on his hospital bed? He’s not exactly a holdover from a Democratic Administration.


35 posted on 07/10/2009 9:51:59 PM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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To: guns_for_liberty
What about Attorney General Ashcroft, who wouldn’t sign off on the program

Ashcroft was sick as a dog from pancreatic disease and could barely raise himself up from his hospital bed. One of those Justice Department rat lawyers, a weasel named James Comey, had literally raced to Ashcroft's room ahead of Card and Gonzales and (I'm guessing) fed Ashcroft a breathless pile of lies just before the President's men got there. See, Comey was the acting Attorney General while Ashcroft was hospitalized, and the whole fiasco was an ego-driven power play on Comey's part. He had his opinion and wanted to exert his command. The joke was on him, though - - the Bush people went around him.

As it turned out, the part of the program that Comey objected to was a data mining operation called "Stellar Wind". Zillions of email subject lines and phone numbers and call durations, etc., were stored and analyzed by NSA based on algorithms to search for possible terrorist links. I don't know if anything of value ever came of the program - - it sounds like a boondoggle to me. In fact, it sounds a lot like "Able Danger".

FRegards,
LH

36 posted on 07/10/2009 10:18:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Erik Latranyi
Looks like the stakes are getting higher: (from Yahoo AP) Report: Bush surveillance program was massive
37 posted on 07/10/2009 11:50:14 PM PDT by dr_who
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