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Kids Recant Abuse After Dad Serves Time
Associated Press ^ | July 12, 2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/12/2009 9:02:50 AM PDT by libstripper

VANCOUVER, Wash. (July 12) - Former Vancouver police officer Clyde Ray Spencer spent nearly 20 years in prison after he was convicted of sexually molesting his son and daughter. Now, the children say it never happened.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; justice
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This kind of thing has occurred over and over, especially with the Wenachee (sp?), WA persecutions and has cast a serious cloud over all child sex abuse prosecutions, even the ones that are well founded. Indeed, concerns about persecutions like this one are the reasons I, and many other Freepers, would not have voted to convict Micahel Jackson in his most recent molestation case.
1 posted on 07/12/2009 9:02:51 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
Those kids need to spend 20 years in jail.
2 posted on 07/12/2009 9:03:43 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (It's soft tyranny, folks. It's smiley-face fascism.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

The cop who interviewed them aggressively should go to jail. And the mom.


3 posted on 07/12/2009 9:05:30 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Boehner Baby!!!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Think this through.
How old were those kids, at the time?
How much brain washing were they subjected to?
How much influence did a former spouse or other family member have?
4 posted on 07/12/2009 9:05:50 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

The prosecutors (actually persecutors) and cops who were involved in it also need to.


5 posted on 07/12/2009 9:06:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Probably some liberal psychologists “convinced” the kids that they were molested. That’s what happenend back in the 80s in L.A. with the McMartin preschool case. Ask Ray Buckey:

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcmartin/mcmartinaccount.html


6 posted on 07/12/2009 9:06:17 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: libstripper

That was during the psychologists’ driven forgotten memories craze of the 1980’s ... The all knowing. all loving, all feeeeling types had a run at it ...
They’re back.

Soon my brothers ...


7 posted on 07/12/2009 9:08:39 AM PDT by Wontsubmit
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To: libstripper
For one of the more famous occurrences of this phenomenon in history, google "Salem Witch Trials."

We learn nothing from history.

8 posted on 07/12/2009 9:08:48 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Bobkk47

This was part of the child abuse hysteia of the 80s. The purported abuse was alleged to have occurred in or about 1985.


9 posted on 07/12/2009 9:09:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
only the King of Pop(ping young boys)
was .....

...GUILTY...

...As his payoff of $22 millions (and his plying kids with wine and sleeping with them) proved.

10 posted on 07/12/2009 9:10:47 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Why? They were really young kids being badgered by law officials.
This was during the hysteria of “recalled memories” and bogus “child care porno” rings.
These kids are as much victims as the father.
11 posted on 07/12/2009 9:10:59 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: IronJack

This is why even Michael Jackson, pervert and pedophile that he was, deserved a fair trial. Child sex abuse cases, without serious corroborating evidence, are inherently dubious.


12 posted on 07/12/2009 9:12:28 AM PDT by libstripper
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The deputy prosecutor is reported as saying that he will take it to the Supreme Court if the conviction is overturned; gotta' protect each other - can't let another prosecutor look bad, ya' know! Meanwhile, mitigating evidence was suppressed (the DP is not reporting as being concerned about that), and the manipulator behind it all, retired deputy sheriff Krause, remains free (she couldn't be reached for comment - how convenient!).

If I was Spencer and/or his kids, I would go after Krause to the full extent of the law, and I would also tell the DP to get off his high horse and drop it, or I would do whatever I could to make sure he never practices law again anywhere.

13 posted on 07/12/2009 9:14:17 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: libstripper

Too many liberal politicians begin their career as prosecutors in order to a appear to be anti-crime.


14 posted on 07/12/2009 9:15:12 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: mockingbyrd
The cop who interviewed them aggressively should go to jail. And the mom.

That!

15 posted on 07/12/2009 9:16:12 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. God help us.)
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To: Vaquero

That payoff didn’t prove anything other than it was cheaper to pay $25 million and get it all over with.


16 posted on 07/12/2009 9:16:21 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Vaquero
Odly enough, the Daily Kos has one of the best accounts of the $20,000,000 settlement case, one that includes excerpts from the transcript snd serious corroborating evidence, including the complaininng witness accurately describing Jackson's rather uniquely marked genitals, a description somewhat like Paula Jones' description of Clinton's. That's the kind of case where I'd be happy to vote guilty, if I were on the jury. Jackson's second case, the one that was heavily reported a couple of years ago, didn't involve any such evidence; hence, I'd have voted not guilty in that case, since jurors are only to consider the evidence actually presented.
17 posted on 07/12/2009 9:19:35 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

This is heartbreaking. That police officer spent 20 years in jail for lies. i can only imagine what occurred to him during that time. All because a prosecutor wanted to make a name for herself. Damn!


19 posted on 07/12/2009 9:31:24 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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This happened to my niece and her husband. Her teenaged daughters refused to give up the bathroom one morning, so he opened the door and kicked them out. They went to the authorities, he was arrested, removed from ANY contact with the children. In the meantime, the mom, who was pregnant at the time, gave birth. To this day, that poor daddy has never seen his baby in the flesh. The girls have since recanted tearfully, but the “authorities” refuse to restore his right to be with his family.


20 posted on 07/12/2009 9:32:44 AM PDT by redhead (Liberalism: The STD of American politics. Check out the Half-baked Sourdough! (shameless blog plug!))
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