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It looks like we won already and not just on any day, on Bastille day (0's Eligibility)
Orly Taiz Esq. ^ | 7/14/2009 | Orly Taiz Esq.

Posted on 07/14/2009 7:09:34 PM PDT by balls

The army has revoked Major Stefan Cox's orders to report to Afganistan.


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To: balls
Revoking orders to Afghanistan does not end this case. An order for his to cross the street and buy a pack of gum raises exactly the same legal issue.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Judge Sonia Sotomayor: Liar?"

41 posted on 07/14/2009 7:46:54 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: David

I don’t think you understand. Any serviceman can now challenge his orders if he doesn’t want to go to Afganistan.


42 posted on 07/14/2009 7:46:58 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It would be an incredible circus - maybe even enough to temporarily revive some ailing newspapers. They should jump on this bandwagon! ;)


43 posted on 07/14/2009 7:47:47 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: the anti-liberal
maybe even enough to temporarily revive some ailing newspapers. They should jump on this bandwagon! ;)

They won't. They're socialists and Obeyme's their prince.

44 posted on 07/14/2009 7:49:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You may be right (well, you’re right - they are socialist, and 0 is their prince) - but there are signs of discontent, especially over the economy. Cracks are starting to appear, and a big story like 0’s dethronement will be hard to ignore.


45 posted on 07/14/2009 7:53:55 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: balls

Just because they rescinded his orders, couldn’t he still be court-marshaled for refusing the first orders?


46 posted on 07/14/2009 7:57:37 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: the anti-liberal

They would spin it as he was driven from office, racism, blah blah.


47 posted on 07/14/2009 7:59:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: balls
I don’t think you understand. Any serviceman can now challenge his orders if he doesn’t want to go to Afganistan.

Probably true.

Not easy if you are professional military. But doable--maybe.

At present, I am inclined to bet they continue to play the game on this side of the table--that is, they will continue to let people off the deployment. We will see how long that lasts.

I will also say that I am personally a little concerned because this is the eighth or ninth time I write here what they will do next and they do it within twenty-four hours.

48 posted on 07/14/2009 8:01:48 PM PDT by David (...)
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I will also say that I am personally a little concerned because this is the eighth or ninth time I write here what they will do next and they do it within twenty-four hours.

Because they're reading your posts?

49 posted on 07/14/2009 8:03:44 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: murron

He didn’t refuse the orders, he simply inquired as to their legitimacy.


50 posted on 07/14/2009 8:05:40 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: jackibutterfly

Biden was voted in by the people.


51 posted on 07/14/2009 8:06:56 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: DJ MacWoW

Like the “Honduran military coup”? Maybe.


52 posted on 07/14/2009 8:07:12 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: DJ MacWoW; LucyT; Polarik
And no, we didn’t win at all—this is a dead loss! Not yet it's not. Others have joined the suit as per post 28. Are they going to excuse them all from duty? We'll see.

Per the above, I suspect they would continue to let people off the deployment order rather than respond.

As I have also said several times, a military officer is the ideal plaintiff. Ideally, a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--how can the Chiefs proceed without knowing who is the Commander?

What I would have done here is plead that he wasn't Commander in Chief and couldn't issue orders. This could have been the case to bring the issue to a head.

53 posted on 07/14/2009 8:07:22 PM PDT by David (...)
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Thanks, David.

"... poor legal work on the part of our side.

[snip]

"... the prayer for relief should only have said we don't want to follow orders because this guy is not the President and can't issue them.

"We have often and regularly had opportunities to effectively bring this to a legal head and because we don't get sufficient legal horsepower on the target, we lose."


54 posted on 07/14/2009 8:09:03 PM PDT by LucyT (If it's not on FR, it didn't happen. --JimRob)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Obama is going to get his comeuppance if other military members are joining this suit that, especially if they are refusing deployment orders.


55 posted on 07/14/2009 8:11:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: DJ MacWoW

Biden would be the next in command even if zer0 gets the boot. Biden can then pick who he wants as VP. Remeber after Nixon left, Ford picked out his VP until he got one not compromised like Agnew.


56 posted on 07/14/2009 8:11:54 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Socialism is the financial arm of Communism)
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To: the anti-liberal

Who knows how this will play out. They may talk the public into chucking that part of the Constitution. They’ve fooled them about the Electoral College and popular vote.


57 posted on 07/14/2009 8:14:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: David

I don’t believe that all is lost. Not yet.


58 posted on 07/14/2009 8:15:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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Thanks again, David.

"What I would have done here is plead that he wasn't Commander in Chief and couldn't issue orders. This could have been the case to bring the issue to a head."

59 posted on 07/14/2009 8:17:26 PM PDT by LucyT (If it's not on FR, it didn't happen. --JimRob)
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To: LucyT

IMHO this will open the flood-gates...


60 posted on 07/14/2009 8:17:34 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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