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T. Rex Teeth Take a Bite Out of Evolution
ICR ^ | July 17, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 07/17/2009 9:28:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: kingpins10

And your advanced degree in fossil dating is exactly what?

Land of the lost?


41 posted on 07/17/2009 10:19:21 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Moonman62

How so? Are you willing to bet your soul on radiometric dating?


42 posted on 07/17/2009 10:19:28 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: Moonman62

‘zactly.


43 posted on 07/17/2009 10:19:56 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

It must be, cause they sure do it all the time.


44 posted on 07/17/2009 10:20:02 AM PDT by stormer
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To: kingpins10

Great another you are going to hell for science post.

That didn’t take long.


45 posted on 07/17/2009 10:20:24 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Bobkk47
Yeah, I know. The earth is only 6000 years old and was created in 6 days.

God doesn't wear a Timex.

46 posted on 07/17/2009 10:20:40 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Shows how some scientists make important conclusions based on a very small bit of data. Then when some data comes along that doesn’t fit in with their conclusions, they panic or dismiss the data.

You're referring to the creation "scientists," right? The ones who dismiss all geological and paleontological data developed since the 18th century? Because the scientists in the article cited are neither panicking nor dismissing anything.

Hmm, the original article cited by the ICR hac writer has expired, and every other footnote in the article goes to another ICR article. Interesting. Almost as if the publishing of the ICR article was timed to take place after the source material was no longer accessible.

Fortunately, we have Google. Here is a copy of the article on Breitbart, and here is an illuminating quote:

The dinosaur, whose teeth were exhumed from strata dating back 140 million to 136 million years ago in the city, is estimated to have been about 5 meters long, said the Museum of Nature and Human Activities, Hyogo. The size is much larger than other 1- to 3-meter-long dinosaurs found in similarly old stratum at home and abroad, the museum said. Since the era of the strata is tens of millions of years earlier than the age of the over 10-meter-long tyrannosaurus, the creature was in the course of evolution to tyrannosaurus, it added. Haruo Saegusa, a curator at the museum, said, "If the dinosaur belongs to the same era of the strata, the tyrannosaurus could have started to grow larger much earlier than previously thought."

It appears that Brian Thomas failed to understand what he was writing about, or perhaps is knowingly promulgating a misunderstanding. The fossils found do not belong to T. rex, and do not force T. rex to be "adjusted." Instead, they are an ancestor of T. rex. All they demonstrate is that T. rex's ancestors had reached a certain size earlier than previously believed. This is a new data point, but not a challenge to the model. (We're still waiting for the T. rex with a bunny rabbit in its stomach.)

With his misunderstanding of the fossils corrected, we see there really is no reason to challenge the prevailing wisdom regarding the geologic column. That's just as well, because Thomas also cites RATE's disastrous web of assumptions and impossibilities, and picking that apart strand by strand would take some time.

47 posted on 07/17/2009 10:21:30 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Catholic Canadian

His is the Rolex “Cosmo 1”

:-)


48 posted on 07/17/2009 10:21:34 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Caesar Soze

But as long as these ICR psudoscientists keep barfing up fantastic hairballs of ignorance, there will allways be cannon fodder for FR.


49 posted on 07/17/2009 10:24:33 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: DevNet

Not my point at all. I just question carbon dating and radiometric dating.

When science tells me a rock that is known to be 200 years old from a volcanic eruption is 4.5 million years old according to radiometric dating, I have a problem with that. No one can seem to explain this fact.

Not to mention when a president tells me a stimulus package will limit unemployment...


50 posted on 07/17/2009 10:25:26 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10

*Are you willing to bet your soul on radiometric dating?*

That is a scare tactic. You are trying to scare people with the threat of punishment in hell if they have a different opinion than yours.

As a debate tactic it is a very cheap one.


51 posted on 07/17/2009 10:27:17 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: xcamel

Are you telling me that it is wrong to study the facts? That it is wrong to purchase and read books on issues?
That it is wrong to question?
Science does that everyday.


52 posted on 07/17/2009 10:27:43 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks

Most of the Cretins wouldn’t recognize science if it bit them on the a##.


53 posted on 07/17/2009 10:28:43 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: kingpins10

*When science tells me a rock that is known to be 200 years old from a volcanic eruption is 4.5 million years old according to radiometric dating*

It isn’t like their is an energy to matter convert making new rock under the volcano. You seam to be expecting that the molten rock gets its age reset the moment it breaches the surface when that isn’t the case.


54 posted on 07/17/2009 10:28:55 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: metmom

Oh, and the IDers would allow evidence that doesn’t fit their Theory (ie ToC) to be trumpeted?

NOT.


55 posted on 07/17/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: DevNet

It’s not cheap. It’s fact.

Radiometric, along with carbon dating is flawed.

The truth is we have no reliable way of looking at matter and telling it’s exact age.


56 posted on 07/17/2009 10:29:26 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10

It isn’t a fact that using radiometric dating will doom your soul to hell.

You didn’t say that radiometric dating was simply wrong, you came out and strongly implied that using it would send you straight to hell.


57 posted on 07/17/2009 10:31:50 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

You seem to have missed the point.

Radiometric dating estimated it to be 4.5 million years old, when in fact it was 200. This is the ‘most reliable’ way of estimating age we have.


58 posted on 07/17/2009 10:32:54 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: DevNet

That’s not what I implied.

I implied that it is flawed and why would someone rely on an assumption, at best.


59 posted on 07/17/2009 10:35:38 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: DevNet

Well, in a manner of speaking, maybe he/she was speaking the Truth.

How so you ask?

OK, let’s say something is discovered, and carbon dating or radiometric dating accurately proves that the IDer’s theories are nothing but hooey, can you imagine the ear shattering whineing and moaning....?

That, my Friend, would be Hell!

Therefore, in using radiometric dating or carbon dating would, indirectly, send you straight to Hell.


60 posted on 07/17/2009 10:36:07 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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