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CIA Caught 'Off-Guard' By Jakarta Hotel Terror Attack
ABC News ^ | By BRIAN ROSS, MATTHEW COLE and RICHARD ESPOSITO

Posted on 07/17/2009 2:36:14 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

U.S. intelligence officials were caught "off-guard" by the Friday terror attacks against two U.S.-based hotels in Jakarta, Indonesia.

A senior U.S. official told ABC News the attacks came as a "surprise."

A second U.S. counter-terrorism official said the CIA and other intelligence agencies had given no indication to the White House of "any threat reporting in the last 18 months" involving the Indonesian al Qaeda affiliate, Jemaah Islamiyah.

"Any suggestion that the CIA has not taken the JI threat seriously in recent years is wrong," said a CIA spokesman. "No one from the CIA has ever said that this terrorist group was completely down and out."

U.S. officials had been confident that the group had been dismantled after almost of all its leaders were killed or captured in a joint operation involving Indonesian, U.S. and Australian personnel.

"They were quiet but they weren't dead," said former White House counter-terrorism official Richard Clarke, an ABC News consultant.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bho44; bhocia; indonesia; jakarta; jemaahislamiyah; ji; suicidebombing

   Obama Failed.

1 posted on 07/17/2009 2:36:14 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Panettas fault!


2 posted on 07/17/2009 2:38:15 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The CIA blew it, Jeez, so what else is new?


3 posted on 07/17/2009 2:38:38 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think the CIA is going to look the other way at lot more often in the months to come in order to fully embarrass Obama for his thuggish naivete.


4 posted on 07/17/2009 2:39:04 PM PDT by kromike
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Too worried about Pelosi or watching right wing, gun toting, religious vets in our country.


5 posted on 07/17/2009 2:40:38 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

HUSSEIN Obama did not warn the CIA his islamist friends would strike. What a world we live in.


6 posted on 07/17/2009 2:41:57 PM PDT by AndyPH (?+)
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To: kromike

AQ has totally gone off the Internet and ceased using phones of all kinds. They are using couriers with messages for face-to-face info sharing. It may take longer, but the USA is now totally in the dark.

The only way the CIA will get information from AQ now is through infiltration of AQ at their top level.


7 posted on 07/17/2009 2:42:02 PM PDT by DownInFlames (C)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We can’t really expect them to stop every single bombing on the planet. I mean yeah they’re American owned hotels but they’re in Indonesia, it’s not that hard to plan a bombing on the other side of the planet without making any noise on this side.


8 posted on 07/17/2009 2:42:26 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can the CIA still operate in Indonesia with Panetta in charge or has he defanged them?


9 posted on 07/17/2009 2:42:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would have guessed the cia was surprised.. otherwise they would have stopped it...


10 posted on 07/17/2009 2:43:22 PM PDT by outlawjake
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, the CIA has been sort of busy defending themselves against attacks by BO, Pelosi and the ObamaComs. Right now, they are more or less in a defensive mode.


11 posted on 07/17/2009 2:44:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: pennboricua
Word from WH to CIA:

“Don't spy on Muslims anywhere—concentrate on right-wing Caucasian bitter clingers instead.”

Soon,all Muslims will make their pilgrimages to Mecca,Medina AND 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

12 posted on 07/17/2009 2:50:44 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("If every man who swore to uphold the US Constitution actually did so...")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
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In the CIA's defense, they didn't identify the attackers as Lutheran extremists until the last second.

They're relentless and won't stop until everyone is converted and eating lutefisk 3x a day.

13 posted on 07/17/2009 2:54:00 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: kromike

My thought exactly.


14 posted on 07/17/2009 2:55:43 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess Leon “The Nose” Panetta has his “best people” trying to determine where Dick Cheney’s secret location is rather than hunting down terrorists.


15 posted on 07/17/2009 2:59:59 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: DownInFlames
The only way the CIA will get information from AQ now is through infiltration of AQ at their top level

Or by watching Al Jazeera...

16 posted on 07/17/2009 3:01:50 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Panetta has too many apparatchiks at CIA off on political chores, rummaging through the “chatter” for what Obama’s domestic political enemies are saying instead of what the terrorists are saying.


17 posted on 07/17/2009 3:06:46 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Snickering Hound

They're relentless and won't stop until everyone is converted and eating lutefisk 3x a day.

Eating lutefisk once a year for Christmas is more than I can handle, but...if threatened by these girls,I can always try harder.

18 posted on 07/17/2009 3:07:06 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We are less safe under Obama. Simple as that.


19 posted on 07/17/2009 3:14:43 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hey, stopping it would have required pre-emptive action (we can’t have that), so we just wait then call in the police. I bet the FBI is already sending over support teams!!!!

hh


20 posted on 07/17/2009 3:17:41 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: sinanju; Oldeconomybuyer; pennboricua
The CIA blew it, Jeez, so what else is new?

They were distracted. When congressmen and the Justice departement are calling for the prosecution of CIA employees for doing their jobs during the Bush administration, they worry about saving their own necks rather than preempting terrorists.

21 posted on 07/17/2009 3:18:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Oratam

And EVERYBODY knows it. Some will state it as so.


22 posted on 07/17/2009 3:19:14 PM PDT by John W
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To: sinanju

The CIA is occupied with partisan politics and dueling with dingbat Pelosi; the mission is abandoned. Maybe the ‘Bama should’ve put an actual adult in charge-like Dick Cheney!!


23 posted on 07/17/2009 3:31:04 PM PDT by Spok (Viet vet and father of a Marine in the 1/1.)
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To: DownInFlames
The only way the CIA will get information from AQ now is through infiltration of AQ at their top level.

In the spirit of transparency, the New York Times will publish thoes infiltrators' names as soon as they're leaked.

24 posted on 07/17/2009 3:37:20 PM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am deeply concerned about this outrageous act. Five minutes from now, I will have totally forgotten about it, but for this moment right now, it has my complete attention and deep concern.

Did I mention I was deeply concerned? Outraged? In Strong Condemation? Headed to a UN Security Council Meeting?


25 posted on 07/17/2009 3:52:24 PM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: DownInFlames

And that will never happen because of too many loose lips in our government.


26 posted on 07/17/2009 3:53:32 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So basically we have reverted back to the Clinton era.


27 posted on 07/17/2009 3:56:03 PM PDT by redk
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To: kromike

Bingo! Since Congress has decided that they are a bunch of liars why should they out theiur lives on the line keeping them safe?


28 posted on 07/17/2009 3:58:01 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: redk
"So basically we have reverted back to the Clinton era."

Ummmm, NO.

Basically we have reverted back to the Clinton Carter era.

29 posted on 07/17/2009 4:02:36 PM PDT by chs68
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

was this the religion of peace our illustrious leader tells us
ARF

CIA has become not what is was and you can bet bozo is doing his best to break it even more.


30 posted on 07/17/2009 4:24:12 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I wish those girls could come to my house to do the census.


31 posted on 07/17/2009 4:25:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Numb nutz has gutted the joint. We will only have Maxwell Smart when it’s all over.


32 posted on 07/17/2009 4:26:41 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I wish those girls could come to my house to do the census.

You know while we have bozo and his pals bringing over Palestinians etc to live here why does he not bring these kind of women over form these countries.

Is there a petition to sign to get immigrants from Sweden
Denmark
Iceland
Finland??????????????????????

If so I woudl sign it in a hear beat but I bet bozo’s wife woudl not let bozo go anywhere near these girls


33 posted on 07/17/2009 4:27:32 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: shankbear

Sorry about that Chief.


34 posted on 07/17/2009 4:27:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: chs68

Oh, my bad. I saw Susan Rice the other day and I figured we were back to the good ole days of rejecting intelligence related to terrorism.


35 posted on 07/17/2009 5:20:54 PM PDT by redk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Given that the CIA is pretty much spending enormous amounts of time and manpower fighting Dem charges and investigations, not surprsing to me that the CIA was “caught off guard.”


36 posted on 07/17/2009 5:46:16 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tell me. Why do we still have a CIA. Want to save money ?

Ditch them. The democrats have made them useless.


37 posted on 07/17/2009 5:48:46 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: kromike
I think the CIA is going to look the other way at lot more often in the months to come in order to fully embarrass Obama for his thuggish naivete

Anybody who would literally play politics in the blood of terrorism victims should be strung up. I'm glad you aren't working for our security. That suggestion is absolutely sickening.
38 posted on 07/17/2009 5:54:42 PM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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Note: The following text is a quote:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_1161.html

Worldwide Caution

February 2, 2009

This Worldwide Caution updates information on the continuing threat of terrorist actions and violence against Americans and interests throughout the world. In some countries, the worldwide recession has contributed to political and economic instability and social unrest. The armed conflict between Israeli forces and Hamas in Gaza, which began in December 2008, raised tensions and sparked demonstrations throughout the world. U.S. citizens and others were killed in recent terrorist attacks in India and Pakistan. American citizens are reminded to maintain a high level of vigilance and to take appropriate steps to increase their security awareness. This replaces the Worldwide Caution dated July 16, 2008 to provide updated information on security threats and terrorist activities worldwide.

The Department of State remains concerned about the continued threat of terrorist attacks, demonstrations, and other violent actions against U.S. citizens and interests overseas. Americans are reminded that demonstrations and rioting can occur with little or no warning. Current information suggests that al-Qaida and affiliated organizations continue to plan terrorist attacks against U.S. interests in multiple regions, including Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. These attacks may employ a wide variety of tactics including suicide operations, assassinations, kidnappings, hijackings, and bombings. The September 2006 attack on the U.S. Embassy in Syria and the March 2006 bombing near the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan illustrate the continuing desire of extremists to strike American targets.

Extremists may elect to use conventional or non-conventional weapons, and target both official and private interests. Examples of such targets include high-profile sporting events, residential areas, business offices, hotels, clubs, restaurants, places of worship, schools, public areas, and locales where Americans gather in large numbers, including during holidays. Terrorists attacked two hotels, a railway station, restaurant, hospital, and other locations in Mumbai, India, frequented by Westerners on November 26, 2008. Over 100 persons are believed to have been killed, including six Americans, and hundreds were injured. On September 20, terrorist bombed the Islamabad Marriott Hotel killing two U.S. Department of Defense employees and one Department of State contractor, whose remains are still unaccounted for. One private American sustained minor injuries. A July 9, 2008, terrorist attack on Turkish police guarding the U.S. Consulate General in Istanbul, Turkey, killed three police officers and wounded other police personnel. On March 15, 2008, a bomb at an Italian restaurant in Islamabad, Pakistan, killed two and injured twelve, including five Americans. Also on March 15, two bombs exploded at the CS Pattani Hotel in southern Thailand, killing two and injuring thirteen.

Americans are reminded of the potential for terrorists to attack public transportation systems. Bombs exploded near city buses in Tripoli, Lebanon, on August 13 and September 29, 2008, killing twenty-one people. Other examples include multiple anti-personnel mine detonations on passenger buses in June 2008 in Sri Lanka, multiple terrorist attacks on trains in India in 2006, the July 2005 London Underground bombings, and the March 2004 train attacks in Madrid. Extremists also may select aviation and maritime services as possible targets, such as the August 2006 plot against aircraft in London, or the December 2006 bomb at Madrid’s Barajas International Airport. In June 2007, a vehicle was driven into the main terminal at Glasgow International Airport and burst into flames, but the bomb failed to detonate.

The Middle East and North Africa

Credible information indicates terrorist groups seek to continue attacks against U.S. interests in the Middle East and North Africa. Terrorist actions may include bombings, hijackings, hostage taking, kidnappings, and assassinations. While conventional weapons such as explosive devices are a more immediate threat in many areas, use of non-conventional weapons, including chemical or biological agents, must be considered a possible threat. Terrorists do not distinguish between official and civilian targets. Increased security at official U.S. facilities has led terrorists and their sympathizers to seek softer targets such as public transportation, residential areas, and public areas where people congregate, including restaurants, hotels, clubs, and shopping areas.

On September 17, 2008, armed terrorists attacked the U.S. Embassy in Sana’a, Yemen, killing several Yemeni personnel, one embassy security guard, and a few individuals waiting to gain entry to the embassy. On March 18, 2008, a mortar attack on the U.S. Embassy in Yemen injured several Yemeni citizens in the vicinity. On January 15, 2008, a roadside explosion in Beirut, Lebanon killed three Lebanese and injured an American citizen. On December 11, 2007, two vehicle-borne explosive devices were detonated at the UN headquarters in Algiers and the Algerian Constitutional Council. Three suicide bomb attacks in July and September of 2007 in Algeria killed more than 80 people. In July 2007, suspected al-Qaida operatives carried out a vehicle-borne explosive device attack on tourists at the Bilquis Temple in Yemen, killing eight Spanish tourists and their two Yemeni drivers. There were a series of bombings in Morocco in March and April 2007, two of which occurred simultaneously outside the U.S. Consulate General and the private American Language Center in Casablanca. Additionally, an attack took place on the American International School in Gaza in April 2007. These events underscore the intent of terrorist entities to target facilities perceived to cater to Westerners.

Potential targets are not limited to those companies or establishments with overt U.S. ties. For instance, terrorists may target movie theaters, liquor stores, bars, casinos, or any similar type of establishment, regardless of whether they are owned and operated by host country nationals. Due to varying degrees of security at all such locations, Americans should be particularly vigilant when visiting these establishments.

The violence in Iraq and conflict between Palestinians and Israelis has the potential to produce demonstrations and unrest throughout the region. The armed conflict between Israeli forces and Hamas in Gaza, which began in December 2008, raised tensions and sparked demonstrations throughout the world. The Department of State continues to warn of the possibility for violent actions against U.S. citizens and interests in the region. Anti-American violence could include possible terrorist actions against aviation, ground transportation, and maritime interests, specifically in the Middle East, including the Red Sea, Persian Gulf, the Arabian Peninsula, and North Africa.

The Department is concerned that extremists may be planning to carry out attacks against Westerners and oil workers on the Arabian Peninsula. Armed attacks targeting foreign nationals in Saudi Arabia that resulted in many deaths and injuries, including U.S. citizens, appear to have been preceded by extensive surveillance. Tourist destinations in Egypt frequented by Westerners were attacked in April 2006 resulting in many deaths and injuries, including Americans. Extremists may be surveilling Westerners, particularly at hotels, housing areas, and rental car facilities. Potential targets may include U.S. contractors, particularly those related to military interests. Financial or economic venues of value also could be considered as possible targets; the failed attack on the Abqaiq oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia in late February 2006 and the September 2006 attack on oil facilities in Yemen are examples.

East Africa

A number of al-Qaida operatives and other extremists are believed to be operating in and around East Africa. As a result of the conflict in Somalia, some of these individuals may seek to relocate elsewhere in the region. Americans considering travel to the region and those already there should review their plans carefully, remain vigilant with regard to their personal security, and exercise caution. Terrorist actions may include suicide operations, bombings, kidnappings, or targeting maritime vessels. Terrorists do not distinguish between official and civilian targets. Increased security at official U.S. facilities has led terrorists to seek softer targets such as hotels, beach resorts, prominent public places, and landmarks. In particular, terrorists and likeminded extremists may target international aid workers, civil aviation, and seaports in various locations throughout East Africa, including Somalia. Americans in remote areas or border regions where military or police authority is limited or non-existent could also become targets.

Americans considering travel by sea near the Horn of Africa or in the southern Red Sea should exercise extreme caution, as there has been a notable increase in armed attacks, robberies, and kidnappings for ransom at sea by pirates in recent months. Merchant vessels continue to be hijacked in Somali territorial waters, while others have been hijacked as far as 300 nautical miles off the coast of Somalia, Yemen, and Kenya in international waters.

The U.S. Government maritime authorities advise mariners to avoid the port of Mogadishu, and to remain at least 200 nautical miles off the coast of Somalia. In addition, when transiting around the Horn of Africa or in the Red Sea, it is strongly recommended that vessels travel in convoys, and maintain good communications contact at all times. Americans traveling on commercial passenger vessels should consult with the shipping or cruise Ship Company regarding precautions that will be taken to avoid hijacking incidents. Commercial vessels should review the Department of Transportation Maritime Administration’s suggested piracy countermeasures for vessels transiting the Gulf of Aden.

South and Central Asia

The U.S. Government continues to receive information that terrorist groups in South and Central Asia may be planning attacks in the region, possibly against U.S. Government facilities, American citizens, or American interests. The presence of al-Qaida, Taliban elements, indigenous sectarian groups, and other terror organizations, many of which are on the U.S. Government’s list of foreign terror organizations, poses a potential danger to American citizens in the region. Continuing tensions in the Middle East may also increase the threat of anti-Western or anti-American violence in the region.

Terrorists and their sympathizers have demonstrated their willingness and capability to attack targets where Americans or Westerners are known to congregate or visit. Their actions may include, but are not limited to, vehicle-born explosives, improvised explosive devices, assassinations, carjacking, rocket attacks, assaults or kidnappings. In November 2008, coordinated terrorist attacks on luxury hotels, a Jewish community center, a restaurant, train station, hospital, and other facilities frequented by foreigners in Mumbai, India killed more than 170, including six Americans. On November 12, 2008, an American government contractor and his driver in Peshawar, Pakistan were shot and killed in their car. In September 2008, more than fifty people, including three Americans, were killed and hundreds were injured when a suicide bomber set off a truck filled with explosives outside a major international hotel in Islamabad, Pakistan. In August 2008, gunmen stopped and shot at the vehicle of an American diplomat in Peshawar. In August, three female western non-governmental organization (NGO) employees, along with their male Afghan driver, were gunned down as they traveled south of Kabul, Afghanistan. On June 2, 2008, a large bomb exploded in front of the Danish Embassy in Islamabad killing at least six people and wounding nearly 20. In May 2008, a series of coordinated bombings occurred in market and temple areas of the tourist city of Jaipur in Rajasthan, India. In Afghanistan, kidnappings and terrorist attacks on international organizations, international aid workers, and foreign interests continue. In Sri Lanka, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam and other groups have conducted suicide bombings at political rallies, government buildings, and major economic targets, and in recent months have increasingly targeted public transportation. Although there is no indication that American citizens were targeted in these attacks, and none were injured, there is a heightened risk of American citizens being victims of violence by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Previous terrorist attacks conducted in Central Asia have involved improvised explosive devices and suicide bombers and have targeted public areas, such as markets, local government facilities, and, in 2004, the U.S. and Israeli Embassies in Uzbekistan. In addition, hostage-takings and skirmishes have occurred near the Uzbek-Tajik-Kyrgyz border areas.

Before You Go

U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad are encouraged to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State Department’s travel registration web site at https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/ui/ so that they can obtain updated information on travel and security. Americans without Internet access may register directly with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy or Consulate to contact them in case of emergency.

U.S. citizens are strongly encouraged to maintain a high level of vigilance, be aware of local events, and take the appropriate steps to bolster their personal security. For additional information, please refer to “A Safe Trip Abroad” found at http://travel.state.gov.

U.S. Government facilities worldwide remain at a heightened state of alert. These facilities may temporarily close or periodically suspend public services to assess their security posture. In those instances, U.S. embassies and consulates will make every effort to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens. Americans abroad are urged to monitor the local news and maintain contact with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.

As the Department continues to develop information on any potential security threats to U.S. citizens overseas, it shares credible threat information through its Consular Information Program documents, available on the Internet at http://travel.state.gov. In addition to information on the Internet, travelers may obtain up-to-date information on security conditions by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or, outside the United States and Canada on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm Monday through Friday, Eastern Time (except U.S. federal holidays.)


39 posted on 07/17/2009 6:07:37 PM PDT by Cindy
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stepping back in time...

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1991047/posts

Bali Bombing Cleric Attacks Western Tourists
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-25-2008 | Nick Squires
Posted on March 24, 2008 7:04:37 PM PDT by blam

Bali bombing cleric attacks western tourists

By Nick Squires in Sydney
Last Updated: 1:56am GMT 25/03/2008

Western tourists in Indonesia are “maggots, snakes and worms” who should be beaten up, the alleged mastermind of the 2002 Bali bombings has told hardline Islamic followers.

Abu Bakar Bashir, the cleric who was convicted of conspiracy over the Bali bombings but later cleared and released from prison after 26 months, said the island resort had been overrun by scantily-clad tourists who deserved to be attacked for their immorality.

“Worms, snakes, maggots... those are animals that crawl. Take a look at Bali... those infidel tourists. They are naked,” he said.

Bashir, the alleged spiritual head of the Jemaah Islamiah terrorist organisation, made the comments in a speech to an Islamic youth organisation in eastern Java last October.

Tourists who are disrespectful of Islamic customs should be lynched, he said, adding: “If there are infidels here, then beat them up. Do not tolerate them.”

The sermon was videotaped by an Australian university student who was conducting research into Islamic boarding schools in the region.

Bashir told his followers to reject Indonesian laws that contradicted Islamic law, and said that signs should be placed in Muslim areas to tell western tourists to dress modestly.

He also stated that young Indonesians should “aspire to a martyrdom death”, adding: “The young must be first at the frontline - don’t hide at the back. You must be at the front, die as martyrs and all your sins will be forgiven.”

Analysts said the speech showed that Bashir had been emboldened by his release from prison.

The bomb attacks killed 202 people, including 26 Britons and 88 Australians. Despite a fall in visitor numbers afterwards, more than 70,000 Britons went to the island last year.

Stephen Smith, Australia’s foreign minister, said: “The reported comments by Abu Bakar Bashir are consistent with his well-known views and nothing more than his familiar bigotry.”

Mr Smith said that Australia continued to co-operate strongly with Indonesia on counter-terrorism.

However, the department of foreign affairs, advises Australians to think carefully before travelling to Indonesia, including Bali, due to a “very high” threat of terrorist attack.

Meanwhile. three of the convicted Bali bombers, who are languishing on death row, have edged closer to facing execution after their lawyer resigned.

The lawyer withdrew from a last-ditch appeal launched by Amrozi Nurhasyim, the so-called “smiling assassin”, his brother Ali Ghufron (alias Mukhlas) and Iman Samudra.

The trio played key roles in the bombings and have already been convicted of terrorism.

Bashir has warned of retribution should they be executed by firing squad.


40 posted on 07/17/2009 6:10:58 PM PDT by Cindy
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SNIPPET from post no. 40:

"He also stated that young Indonesians should “aspire to a martyrdom death”, adding: “The young must be first at the frontline - don’t hide at the back. You must be at the front, die as martyrs and all your sins will be forgiven.”

Analysts said the speech showed that Bashir had been emboldened by his release from prison."

41 posted on 07/17/2009 6:11:48 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/jemaahislamiyah/index
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/jI/index


42 posted on 07/17/2009 6:15:11 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

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43 posted on 07/17/2009 6:16:06 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: SeminoleSoldier
Anybody who would literally play politics in the blood of terrorism victims should be strung up. I'm glad you aren't working for our security. That suggestion is absolutely sickening.

With all due respect, that wasn't a suggestion. It was an observation, given the stubborn-kumbaya-mentality of that Magic Negro. The level of empathy that he is giving to murderous religious fanatics is what's truly sickening, especially to people within the CIA.

Consider: you work for the CIA. You have to deal with some real human scum to protect the USA, perhaps even putting yourself or loved ones in real actual danger. In all likelihood, there are CIA officers who have lost loved ones in one of the dirtiest jobs possible. Anyway, you've risked much for your country.

Now comes along a naive waif who seems to believe that defending American citizens somehow motivates religious barbarians to hatred of ANY Western democracy. He removes all of your effective tools for you to do your job. The Speaker of the House, seeking to score political points and obtain more power, without any proof calls your entire organization a bunch of liars in order to protect her sorry ass. And the AG is publicly considering witch hunts in order to score political points of his own.

Now, I ask you: faced with a sickening group of political-whores who are cynically risking the lives of millions of American citizens to further their radical agendas, would YOU still be willing to do your job to the best of your ability?

I'm sure there are many within the CIA who are exasperated, thinking right now, "What's the point?"

44 posted on 07/17/2009 7:03:12 PM PDT by kromike
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To: SeminoleSoldier
Anybody who would literally play politics in the blood of terrorism victims should be strung up. I'm glad you aren't working for our security. That suggestion is absolutely sickening.

Oh, and one more point. Democrats have been BLATANTLY playing politics with our soldiers' lives for the last 8 years. And they haven't been 'strung up'; they've been promoted.

45 posted on 07/17/2009 7:05:27 PM PDT by kromike
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To: kromike

I agree with you that what the left is doing cannot help in any way the morale or effectiveness of the intelligence services. I would hope that men and women with the courage to do such work would not be so easily discouraged into inaction when innocent lives are at risk.


46 posted on 07/17/2009 7:33:44 PM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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To: Dallas59

“Too worried about Pelosi or watching right wing, gun toting, religious vets in our country.”

And let’s not forget about the administration focusing on the global warming issue, as Nancy the idiot Pelosi has stated to her like-minded marxists in China...a clean environment is a human right!


47 posted on 07/18/2009 6:52:18 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is un-American.)
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To: manc

There are many immigrants from those places, just mostly in Michigan. Most of my friends are finnish, french, or both mixed


48 posted on 05/29/2010 10:30:51 AM PDT by Sukasiipi
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