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Obama Health Bill: Those on Social Security - Mandatory Counseling on Asst. Suicide
Fred Thompson Show ^ | July 17, 2009 | Betsy McCaughey Interview

Posted on 07/17/2009 4:09:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

On Page 425 of Obama’s health care bill, the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes...They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!!! And no, I am NOT SH—ing YOU! So those of you who voted for Obama have now put your own parents in dire straights...Congratulations!

Also, planned denial of medical care for seniors.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barbarians; barbariansatthegates; bhohealthcare; cultureofdeath; elderly; fredthompson; healthcare; heathencare; hopeychangemas; marxism; mccaughey; moralabsolutes; obama; obamacare; prolife; romneycare; seniors; socializedmedicine; talkradio; totalitarianism; tyranny
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To: TribalPrincess2U

You should have heard the woman on Mark Levin today talking about all this.
I don’t know who she was but what she had to say was beyond scary.


81 posted on 07/17/2009 5:50:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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To: devolve

Soon they won’t need to.


82 posted on 07/17/2009 5:52:25 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: DelaWhere

counselors = jobs

uh huh


83 posted on 07/17/2009 5:52:49 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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To: All
They are also going to have access to ALL your records even if you don't apply:

(a) IN GENERAL.—Paragraph (19) of section 6103(l) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended to read as follows:

‘‘(19) DISCLOSURES TO FACILITATE IDENTIFICATION OF INDIVIDUALS LIKELY TO BE INELIGIBLE FOR LOW-INCOME SUBSIDIES UNDER MEDICARE PRESCRIPTION DRUG PROGRAM TO ASSIST SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION’S OUTREACH TO ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS.—

‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Upon written request from the Commissioner of Social Security, the following return information (including such in formation disclosed to the Social Security Administration under paragraph (1) or (5)) shall be disclosed to officers and employees of the Social Security Administration, with respect to any taxpayer identified by the Commissioner of Social Security— ‘‘(i) return information for the applicable year from returns with respect to wages (as defined in section 3121(a) or 3401(a)) and payments of retirement income (as described in paragraph (1) of this subsection),

‘‘(ii) unearned income information and income information of the taxpayer from partnerships, trusts, estates, and subchapter S corporations for the applicable year, ‘‘(iii) if the individual filed an income tax return for the applicable year, the filing status, number of dependents, income from farming, and income from self-employment, on such return, ‘‘(iv) if the individual is a married individual filing a separate return for the applicable year, the social security number (if reasonably available) of the spouse on such return, ‘‘(v) if the individual files a joint return for the applicable year, the social security number, unearned income information, and income information from partnerships, trusts, estates, and subchapter S corporations of the individual’s spouse on such return, and ‘‘(vi) such other return information relating to the individual (or the individual’s spouse in the case of a joint return) as is prescribed by the Secretary by regulation as might indicate that the individual is likely to be ineligible for a low-income prescription drug subsidy under section 1860D–14 of the Social Security Act.

‘‘(B) APPLICABLE YEAR.— For the purposes of this paragraph, the term ‘applicable year’ means the most recent taxable year for which information is available in the Internal Revenue Service’s taxpayer information records.

‘‘(C) RESTRICTION ON INDIVIDUALS FOR WHOM DISCLOSURE MAY BE REQUESTED.—The Commissioner of Social Security shall request information under this paragraph only with respect to— ‘‘(i) individuals the Social Security Administration has identified, using all other reasonably available information, as likely to be eligible for a low-income prescription drug subsidy under section 1860D–14 of the Social Security Act and who have not applied for such subsidy, and ‘‘(ii) any individual the Social Security Administration has identified as a spouse of an individual described in clause (i).

84 posted on 07/17/2009 5:53:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: randita

“...they’ll ask you if you’ve ever considered suicide...”

.
And if your answer is no, they’ll call you a selfish SOB for breathing the air that those who are not on SS are entitled to.
With this imposter in the WH we are worse off than the Europeans that we so often make fun of. I think that the first to die should be those who voted for him.


85 posted on 07/17/2009 5:54:18 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: randita

Nope, won’t take away my firearms. Might take them off me.


86 posted on 07/17/2009 5:56:12 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: cajungirl

>>>I do think we don’t fight a battle well with untruths.<<<

Hmmm, do you suppose they are going to give you a pep talk?

Way to go - hang in there - I’ll be back to see you in 5 years.

DON’T THINK SO! Do you???

More like - ‘I don’t want to come back in 5 years and see you still here.’ Take it any way you want - that is the message.


87 posted on 07/17/2009 5:56:27 PM PDT by DelaWhere (Support Cap 'n Trade - CAP TAXES & SPENDING. TRADE CONGRESS FOR REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS.)
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To: angelcindy

Our God has warned us for the last 50 years about these clowns but we have ignored Him and have been busy to remove Him from our society and replace Him with allah. God can only help those who help themselves.


88 posted on 07/17/2009 5:59:28 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: Jim Robinson

OMG people go listen to McCaughey Interview

It’s even worse then we thought!


89 posted on 07/17/2009 6:07:25 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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To: Woebama

Isn’t she the one who first noticed where this was headed and reported via Bloomberg?


90 posted on 07/17/2009 6:08:14 PM PDT by JavaJumpy (Go get 'em, Sarah! http://www.howobamagotelected.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
Every 5 years

If only.

‘‘(B) An advance care planning consultation with respect to an individual may be conducted more frequently than provided under paragraph (1) if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual, including diagnosis of a chronic, progressive, life-limiting disease, a life-threatening or terminal diagnosis or life-threatening injury, or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility (as defined by the Secretary), or a hospice program.
Yeah, that's how I want to spend my dying days. Meeting with bureaucrats however frequently they want, to see if I might be enticed to sign a "life-sustaining care" order. Oh wait, the order doesn't have to be signed by me after all:
For purposes of this section, the term ‘order regarding life sustaining treatment’ means, with respect to an individual, an actionable medical order relating to the treatment of that individual that— ‘‘(i) is signed and dated by a physician...or another health care professional (as specified by the Secretary)
So presumably the same bureaucrats who determine how much drugs I get dispensed and when will be responsible for "effectively communicat[ing]" my "preferences regarding life-sustaining treatment".
91 posted on 07/17/2009 6:14:34 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: cajungirl

Refusing “the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration” is suicide. Denying it is murder.


92 posted on 07/17/2009 6:17:40 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: cmj328
"or another health care professional (as specified by the Secretary)"

No problem. The night shift janitor can help you with your decision.

93 posted on 07/17/2009 6:18:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: cmj328

New Tagline


94 posted on 07/17/2009 6:18:36 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a this "Health" Bill--or lose reelection)
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To: MamaDearest
The only thing missing from the democrats health plan is experimentation on captive citizens.

This time it will be tested in the "relocation vans" for registered sex offenders.

And *nobody* (including FReepers) will complain until the precedent, established and assented (by the FReepers & co) expands to include them.

The more we learn the more it is comparable to Hitler's regime.

Comparable? It's here already. This country's public has aloready sold its birthright for a mess (promise) of pottage (illusory safety), FReepers and all.

We may reap what they have sown -- just pray we don't.

95 posted on 07/17/2009 6:19:18 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: JavaJumpy

Isn’t she the one who first noticed where this was headed and reported via Bloomberg?
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She really hurt Clintons health care bill — she found most of the horror stories (the affirmative action brain surgeons in the bill were my favorite, as I remember it the bill wanted Eskimos). I think she was working for Manhatten something think tank then.


96 posted on 07/17/2009 6:34:14 PM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: mlizzy

ping health care plan


97 posted on 07/17/2009 6:53:33 PM PDT by TNoldman (Conservative Values FOREVER!)
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To: cajungirl
I agree there is no explicit reference to assisted but I feel the bill's language may create an “opt in” requirement for life sustaining treatment. Most hospitals now default to an all available treatment policy unless an advance directive specifically directs a DNR status. This bill may reverse that policy by statute and allow people to die absent specific documentation to the contrary. Not exactly assisted suicide but no action is required to forego treatment. JMO
98 posted on 07/17/2009 7:12:12 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: Dysart

Every attempt to make Congress Commies bendover and take Zerocare for THEIR healthcare has been defeated so far in committees. I doubt the amendment to force Congress to belly up to the assisted suicide bar (along with the other measures of ZEROCARE) will see the light of day before the full House and the full Senate.

But ZERO is determined to ram this through Congress without giving Americans time to digest it and discuss it.

God help us!


99 posted on 07/17/2009 7:16:00 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: cmj328

“Refusing “the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration” is suicide.”

I believe no less than the Catholic Church would argue with you on that point, for what it is worth.


100 posted on 07/17/2009 7:23:31 PM PDT by Habibi
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