Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
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(continuing my remarks from prior thread)
Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.
Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.
Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.
An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.
An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.
A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.
Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.
We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:
The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.
As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:
The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.
We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.
The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.
We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.
The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.
We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.
The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.
The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.
Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.
Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.
The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.
No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.
All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.
The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.
Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.
The Federal Reserve.
Border security.
Medicare.
FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.
Federal Pensions.
Etc, etc, etc.
Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.
This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.
Step #1: starting this week (if not within 24 hours), arrest Jim for treason, shut down FR, and interrogate everyone who posts to this thread. The whole subject will disappear almost as fast as BHO's BC.
This will get very ugly very fast. I'm afraid to even post on this thread (and do so only to bookmark it and give the above warning).
Don’t know if the Supreme Court should be fired at this time. But we should definitely reaffirm their operating parameters and constitutional guidelines and possibly assign term limits less than life.
IMHO, SCOTUS needs to go along with the commiecritters. All 544 members of the Legislative and Judicial branches were part of an epic FAIL in January. Everyone of them broke their oaths of office.
Also, according to my copy of the Constitution judges do not serve for life. They "hold their offices during good behavior"
I do not consider legislating from the bench, pulling rights and privileges for a chosen few out of thin air or condemning millions to death at the whim of some ditz "good behavior" or adhereing to the Constitution.
They need to go!
Your list is longer than mine. But here was my contribution.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2126693/posts
I don't give a rat's arse what the ENEMEDIA would do! They have done enough damage already. We can no longer allow them to rule the country. They are the ENEMY!!!
I don’t want to be a stick in the mud but maybe we should ask of this proposal the same question that we would like Congress to ask of their proposals- How much this is going to cost.
Besides a giant march on Washington, the proposal calls for every state to immediately hold an election, then within 30 days another election and then a huge Constitutional Convention to alter Amendments to the Consititution and then all of the votes in individual states on new and removed amendments......?!?!?!?!
Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching..... Big bucks, who’s passing the hat????
So be it. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were ever our countryman.
“Non-citizens have been exemplary warriors”
Yes, they have but that isn’t the point. Americans need to be responsible for their defense and not put it off to some one else willing to fight instead of themselves.
We repudiate that part held by China. And any contracted for since January 20th, 2009, which was illegally contracted for anyway.
+3 here to join in and ready to go...problem is...if 50,000 people showed up it would be mocked...you are right...we need millions to show up and just clog the entire city up from dawn to dusk until mission accomplished.
9-12-09 D.C. already picked
While not a Bad Idea, it really wouldn't help much. The largest part of the debt is due to transfer payments from the government to individuals. The defense budget, which is specifically authorized in the Constitution, comes in a poor second, in terms of spending by the government. Perhaps third after the Porkulus package is in full bloom.
I think the “We the People Congress” foundation is already trying something similar..might look them up!
Other than that (1 Million peaceful protestors to distupt (or coral in D.C.) isn’t a bad idea..it also seems that you are advocating the whole nation “going galt”-a national work-stoppage strike against Washington! (I could support that)!
They should continue to be appointed by the President, and confirmed by the Senate. They should also continue to serve "during good behavior". The one Leetle Change I'd propose would be to establish this "good behavior" by "continuation" elections either every two years, or at the end of each session of the Court, which would be every year. IOW, they wouldn't run for office, but they would have to have their performance approved by the People, perhaps also by the State legislatures, on a periodic basis.
Except for services rendered and/or goods purchased. I'd perhaps even leave out the "services rendered" part, and I'm a government (military) service contractor.
Obama is actually doing that, eliminating or at least greatly reducing service contracts, but principally in the military. He says he's going to increase the size of the army, but after he elimiates a bunch of service contractors, and only replaces around 1/3 of them with government civilians, the rest of their current functions will need to be performed by uniformed military, which will make the military effectively smaller, with a higher ratio of tail to tooth.
I'd much prefer to go back to designing and building weapons and other equipment for our military to use than doing what I do now.
God speed!
STE=Q
Bite your tongue.
Travis McGee is the FR name of Matthew Bracken. Former Navy SEAL officer, and author of Enemies Foreign and Domestic, Domestic Enemies and Foreign Enemies and Traitors.
Sell them a commemorative key-chain.
Haha-hahaha!
Or paving the roads, with asphalt, in the summer, in Texas, New Mexico or the southeast portion of California. In the winter they can shovel the snow in the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and the northwest portions of New York, where they get the "lake effect" snow, yards of it.
I cannot support trying to force a change of government outside of the normal electoral process - not unless the right to free elections is taken away.
If a group was to march on Washington with demands as radical as those you were proposing (that virtually all of the currently elected government resign and parts of the Constitution be repealed) then it is very likely that violence would result. The media would portray us all as Timothy McVeigh’s and would scare many of the very people that are starting to turn against Obama into believing that Obama’s government needed extraordinary powers to deal with us. Basically, we would be giving Obama his Reichstag fire incident - We would be handing him the rope with which to hang us.
Instead we need to be recruiting angry citizens to run for Congress and Senate against the incumbants in 2010. We need to throw massive amounts of money and time into ensuring that patriots replace all of the politicians who support Obama’s unconstitutional policies. But we must do this through the constitutional system. If we step outside the Constitution, I think that either Obama will win and set up a totalitarian state or if Obama loses we will enter a period of anarchy with French Revolution type chaos and bloodshed.
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