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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: Winstons Julia
"So, while I’m as concerned as you are, I think that FIRST we need to list in clear terms those things that the government has done which are in clear opposition to the constitution."

Well, I can definitely agree with that. It's why I've asked for a committee and a special congress made up of delegates from all states to draft the document and work the kinks out. Would be best but not absolutely required if the state legislatures (or a significant portion thereof) are on on board.

61 posted on 07/18/2009 12:08:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nobody has to lift a finger, to bring down the govt.
It just takes numbers. If enough people refuse to pay their taxes, the govt would have to shut down; like night follows day.
WE gave them the power. WE are supplying these addicts.
And they can’t just prosecute a few offenders as examples to the rest. The law demands fair application in every case. But the govt doesn’t have the means to apply the law, or the time, the LEOs, the judges, the personnel, or the prison accommodations...if they don’t have the dough.
It could not be simpler. It’s even more simple than violence, and quicker. They won’t fight back if they’re not paid for their time.
Cut off the funding. Take back the purse. The tyrant class can’t exist without your money.
Next April 15, do nothing at all.


62 posted on 07/18/2009 12:09:10 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: manc; xzins; Jim Robinson
So why are these towns and areas telling certain folks they cannot because of permit issues?

You don't ask for a permit. You just show up.

A permit acknowledges the right of the government to control you and a permit comes with conditions... such as no firearms.

If I'm marching on Washington, I'm gonna bear arms.

63 posted on 07/18/2009 12:09:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: struggle

I see it going down one of two ways. Either Tyrannt gets everything he wants or he’s run out of town on a rail. He seems to be making an all-out gamble. What will the American people (quaint) do?


64 posted on 07/18/2009 12:09:29 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: Jim Robinson

My left leaning but open minded 20 something stepdaughter asked me what I would do if I was in charge. That’s a bit unrealistic but a fair question just the same.
1. Cut income tax to a flat 10% and impose a national sales tax of 5%
2. Eliminate all energy taxes.
3. Eliminate capital gains tax.
4. Impose a state limit of 10% on inheritance and income tax.
5. Build a real barrier from San Diego, CA to Brownsville, TX
6. Reduce the Federal payroll by 50%
7. Eliminate 90% of entitlement programs.
8. Eliminate all government employee unions.
9. Let states decide what they want to do about issues like abortion, drug enforcement, education, and health care.
10. Restrict speculative trading in commodities markets to food and oil related companies.
That would keep me busy for the first month. Bandit countries would be in for it by the start of my second month.


65 posted on 07/18/2009 12:09:36 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Jim Robinson
This is our right and duty as Americans.
66 posted on 07/18/2009 12:09:41 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Jim Robinson
New law needs to be legislated and enforced that specifies immediate revocation of publicly held office holders that tamper with the 2nd Amendment, in any way whatsoever.

Furthermore, ALL laws that have been passed since the institution of the Bill of Rights, that limit a citizen's right to possess, carry, and manufacture arms, and the ammunition for those arms, shall henceforth be eliminated from all City, Province, State and Federal codes of justice...

67 posted on 07/18/2009 12:10:37 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Popman
"Do we as well transfer the federal debt to the states dividing the liabilities by each states population ? "

Revoke all our pledges of monies to other countries and the IMF(they never did a d@man thing for us anyway), then send the money to payoff anything we owe.

68 posted on 07/18/2009 12:12:04 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: DogBarkTree

I’d eliminate income (slave) taxes altogether. The Founders set out a method of taxation to fund the (authorized) federal government. It’s still in the constitution. I’d go back to that.


69 posted on 07/18/2009 12:12:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: theFIRMbss

Screw the Republicans, just make it an American party


70 posted on 07/18/2009 12:13:03 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: Jim Robinson

Damn! I wish we could make it. Unable to, but our thoughts will be with all of the patriots. Go get ‘em ladies and gentlemen!


71 posted on 07/18/2009 12:14:02 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: Popman

Well, guess that will be a matter up for discussion. How to retire the federal debt. Of course we can head off tripling it right now by removing Obama from office. The sooner the better. We may have to negotiate with China et al on the debt.


72 posted on 07/18/2009 12:15:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

All rights in the Bill of Rights are individual rights and no government authority may alter, prevent or any any way interfere with an individual exercising those rights unless the individual has lost a right because of the commission of a crime.


73 posted on 07/18/2009 12:15:59 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Jim Robinson

Storm the Bastille!


74 posted on 07/18/2009 12:17:01 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: Earthdweller

“Revoke all our pledges of monies to other countries and the IMF(they never did a d@man thing for us anyway), then send the money to payoff anything we owe.”

I agree.


75 posted on 07/18/2009 12:17:02 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Jim Robinson

“We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government’s ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.”

I’m there...me and the boys went on the fourth and we’ll be back on 9/11. Couldn’t think of a better place to spend the day. And the enxt. And the next. You know, I’ll be disappointed if we can’t fill that damn mall...there have to be enough of us within DRIVING distance to do that...


76 posted on 07/18/2009 12:18:54 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: dersepp

No air miles here, but I’m onboard. Even If I have to thumb it :-)

The lord will provide


77 posted on 07/18/2009 12:19:09 PM PDT by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Jim Robinson

No person may be appointed to the Supreme Court who does not show in action and in words that they believe the Constitution is to be viewed as an unchangeable document except by amendment. If at any time a sitting Justice makes any kind of a ruling that is contrary to the original intent of the Founding Fathers that Justice shall be removed the same day and the ruling voided.


78 posted on 07/18/2009 12:19:09 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Jim Robinson

Team up... www.secondamendmentmarch.com


79 posted on 07/18/2009 12:21:07 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Jim Robinson
Strip the elected parasites of their cushy damn pensions and their private slush funds, and make it a federal offense to lobby congress.

Arrest ACORN and charge them under the RICO act.

Special interest groups are given notice that, that dog will not hunt.

The AG is tried for not doing his damn job and for treason.

Every company that took funds (ostensibly from our pockets) in the form of the bailout gets $1 and told go away

Give me 1 week before you pull the trigger on this so I can make it home from here!

And JimRob thanks for putting spell check on this site!

80 posted on 07/18/2009 12:21:55 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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