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Ancient Climate-Change Event Puzzles Scientists
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| 14 July 2009
| Phil Berardelli
Posted on 07/20/2009 12:26:26 AM PDT by neverdem
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posted on
07/20/2009 12:26:27 AM PDT
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Carbon dioxide (CO2) gets a bad rep for contributing to global warming, and deservedly so.
What causes the so-called global warming now is the hot air all the politicians and lawyers are spewing up every time they say something. Every time you see a politician's lips move, they are spewing CO2 and lies.
Just look at Osama Obama for the biggest example.
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posted on
07/20/2009 12:51:44 AM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: neverdem
“It's possible that other greenhouse gases such as methane could have contributed to the [PETM] warming,” Zeebe says. It's also possible that the models are underestimating the climate response to CO2 increases. If that's the case, it “would mean our understanding of the climate system is incomplete,” he says.”
OR maybe they are over estimating the effects of co2, but perish the thought since ignorance only works in one direction.
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posted on
07/20/2009 12:53:11 AM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: neverdem
Maybe the sun got a little hotter. One would have to have a full understanding of these star energy systems to think they are a perfectly stable system. What if the nuclear fusion activity of the sun has energy spikes which affects the Earth's climate systems?
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posted on
07/20/2009 12:57:37 AM PDT
by
jonrick46
(The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
To: neverdem
These guys missed the memo?
The humanoid aliens from the distant planet Garbonski 3 shot a massive chunk, almost 1/3, of the asteroid belt into the sun just about that time. The resultant flares and hard radiation killed the inhabitants of Venus - the lizard people of Delton 16, the long-time enemy of the humanoid aliens. Today, the lizard people are long dead and gone, all trace destroyed by the now boiling surface of Venus.
The positive side effect was the eventual rise of humans.
I submit my theory is s provable as the CO2 theory currently proposed by these scientists.
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:03:57 AM PDT
by
ASOC
(Who is that fat lady? And why is she singing???)
To: neverdem
I have come to the conclusion scientists are buffoons. No matter what happens, they think CO2 is the culprit. They are not thinking like scientists, but ideologs hellbent on promoting an agenda.
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:07:22 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: count-your-change
OR maybe they are over estimating the effects of co2, but perish the thought since ignorance only works in one direction. No kidding. That idea never once crosses their minds.
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:08:10 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: neverdem
The whole article is a glaring indictment of how utterly ignorant these so-called "scientists" truly are.......essentially the article states,"...it could be this, or it could be that, but we really don't know if it's either thing or something we haven't even thought of."
Is it just me or does that not sound like pure dumba$$ery?
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:08:40 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
To: antiunion person
The Sun is much much bigger than the Earth.
Perhaps that has some of the cause....but of course that is harder to study with core samples...
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:09:20 AM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Invicto)
To: count-your-change
If that's the case, it "would mean our understanding of the climate system is incomplete," he says.
That's the understatement of the decade!
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:10:15 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
To: neverdem
Hummmmm???
Lets see, what great minds might find this distressing???
To: neverdem
Hummmmm???
Lets see, what great minds might find this distressing???
To: neverdem
So the earth had CO2 levels 5X today’s and temperatures 9 degrees hotter on average, and it survived? It also readjusted without any cap and trade laws. If that’s true, then what’s the whole climate crisis about? We don’t have to do anything. It’ll fix itself...or maybe the cooling will be a bigger problem. Ice ages aren’t nice to humans.
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:22:13 AM PDT
by
JeanLM
To: Always Right
“I have come to the conclusion scientists are buffoons. No matter what happens, they think CO2 is the culprit. They are not thinking like scientists, but ideologs hellbent on promoting an agenda.”
While not as down on scientists as you (may be), I agree that there are those that pursue their ideology without thought.
I’m reminded of the glaciers that covered much of the northern US.
(AlGore hasn’t stated what the temperature goal needed is, has he?)
I recall a statue made of Asbestos at the NY Worlds Fair (from history, I wasn’t there). Of course, that ‘consensus’ about asbestos has changed.
I recall Nuclear energy portrayed as being so inexpensive that our meters would run backwards.
I recall that our oceans would provide all of the nutrition that we would need.
etc, etc.
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posted on
07/20/2009 1:51:49 AM PDT
by
This_far
To: neverdem
New research reveals that something else also seems to have warmed the planet during that time, though no one's quite sure what it was. Look up into the sky during the day. See that big glowing yellow ball in the sky? It's called "The Sun". It's a big ball of nuclear reactions that warm the planet. I suggest starting there.
To: JeanLM
So the earth had CO2 levels 5X todays and temperatures 9 degrees hotter on average, and it survived?I'm pretty sure it had been over ten times today's levels.
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07/20/2009 2:08:24 AM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: count-your-change
Most likely the increase in atmospheric was the result of the temperature increase, not the cause of it.
The amount of CO2 stored in the worlds oceans dwarfs the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, by maybe as much a 1000 to 1, and the oceans would have gassed off huge quantities of CO2 as a result of the increase in temperature. Warmer temperature reduces the ability of water to hold dissolved gases, like CO2.
To: neverdem
“We can’t tax what lived 55 million years ago but we can sure tax em now.”
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posted on
07/20/2009 3:19:08 AM PDT
by
Dallas59
("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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posted on
07/20/2009 3:37:15 AM PDT
by
steelyourfaith
("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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