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Mormon leader to bring family records to Obama (hmmmmm)
Wash Times ^ | 7/20/09 | Chrissy Bellatoni

Posted on 07/20/2009 9:34:42 AM PDT by pissant

President Obama Monday is hosting the leader of the Mormon church at the White House, who will present the president with detailed volumes of Mr. Obama's family history.

Press aides said Latter-Day Saints Church President Thomas Monson and Elder Dallin Oaks, chairman of the LDS Church genealogical committee, will be there. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat and a Mormon, arranged the meeting and also will attend.

"LDS Church leadership has met with previous presidents and presented them with genealogical records detailing their family history," White House aides said.

A source said the church will present Mr. Obama with five large leather-bound volumes that go back through generations of the president's family. Mr. Obama's father was born in Kenya. His mother Stanley Ann Dunham was from Kansas.

The meeting, to take place in the Oval Office on Monday afternoon, is closed to the press and was first announced Sunday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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Lots of CYA going on here these last couple of weeks, it seems.
1 posted on 07/20/2009 9:34:42 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

I don’t know why, but for some reason this meeting w/ Obama makes me feel uneasy. Does anyone know if he has met privately with leaders of other non-Muslim religious groups?


2 posted on 07/20/2009 9:36:22 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: LucyT

sumthin to keep an eye on. Of course, it is closed to the press, not that it matters with the MSM.


3 posted on 07/20/2009 9:36:34 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Where did they get a copy of his “BIRTH CERTIFICATE?” Did the angel Moroni come down and present it to them?


4 posted on 07/20/2009 9:37:29 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: pissant

The Mormons have my highest respect. Hopefully, they won’t blow it with some sort of bull-Obama on the chief loon’s birthplace.


5 posted on 07/20/2009 9:37:58 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: pissant

Any LDS out there?

How do they know where to start without a valid BC?


6 posted on 07/20/2009 9:38:14 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 181 of our national holiday from reality. - He really isn't one of US.)
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To: missnry

I’m quite sure they are making some bad assumptions in their “records”.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 9:39:00 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: missnry

+n the valley of Nehi


8 posted on 07/20/2009 9:39:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: null and void

They’ll start with information that is publicly available. They will undoubtedly take Obama’s word for it as to who his parents are. His place of birth is irrelevant to this effort, where they are just giving him what the public records say about his ancestry.


9 posted on 07/20/2009 9:40:16 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: null and void

I say that religious leadership in this country has been coopted by the left. This Mormon “leader” is just doing his job.


10 posted on 07/20/2009 9:40:59 AM PDT by dools007
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To: pissant

Gee,I guess o is getting a new fake BC with these phony documents also.How strange this seems via timing.


11 posted on 07/20/2009 9:41:08 AM PDT by taxtruth
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To: null and void

They start with the supposed name of his mother. I doubt if they would get far with the name of the Kenyan that 0 claims is the man who fathered him.


12 posted on 07/20/2009 9:41:31 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: null and void

Not LDS, but I assume they only use what is in the public domain... They MAY be able to go BACK further in his ancestry, but what he NEEDS is what only HE can access. It is all a ploy.


13 posted on 07/20/2009 9:41:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: pissant

Make the docs public for a forensic review.


14 posted on 07/20/2009 9:43:01 AM PDT by taxtruth
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To: pissant

Their records aren’t always correct.


15 posted on 07/20/2009 9:43:33 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Krodg

They won’t be if they bought into his COLB as legit.


16 posted on 07/20/2009 9:44:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Lots of CYA going on here these last couple of weeks, it seems.

This is a tradition. The LDS Church presents ancestral/genealogy records to leaders (such as the U.S. President) when they meet with them for the first time. This is nothing new or conspiratorial.

17 posted on 07/20/2009 9:46:07 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: pissant
All these so called "journalists" must have a check box when reporting on Zero's hidden birth certificate:

The visit comes as a small but vocal group continues to question Mr. Obama's citizenship with unsuccessful lawsuits challenging the legitimacy of the president's birth certificate. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

MR OBAMA REFUSES TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

The document he released does NOT state that he was born in the state of Hawaii. (HINT, HINT he could have been born anywhere on the planet and be registered in the state of Hawaii.)

/RANT

18 posted on 07/20/2009 9:48:21 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: pissant

More opinion(and DNC talking points) stated as fact from the corrupt american press.

(snip)

“The visit comes as a small but vocal group continues to question Mr. Obama’s citizenship with unsuccessful lawsuits challenging the legitimacy of the president’s birth certificate. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.”

(end snip)

We have seen no polling on the BC issue, just as we have seen no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. This is all conjecture and lies.


19 posted on 07/20/2009 9:49:24 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: ChocChipCookie
. . . for some reason this meeting w/ Obama makes me feel uneasy.

Genealogy, of course is a Mormon specialty, but so is inventing history.

I'll bet that their family history of BO affirms Hawaii as his place of birth if it goes public.

20 posted on 07/20/2009 9:49:44 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS [with oak leaf clusters])
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To: taxtruth

Note that this meeting is closed door. Also, note the amount in legal fees Obama is paying to keep his birth certificate hidden.

Now put 2 and 2 together! Is Obama paying the LDS church to hide or alter where he was born?


21 posted on 07/20/2009 9:50:09 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: pissant
I'll bet all the kowtowing to Obama by the Mormon Leaders, sure irks Mitt.
22 posted on 07/20/2009 9:51:31 AM PDT by PeanutbutterandJellybean
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To: lady lawyer
His place of birth is irrelevant to this effort

Yup.

Who's his daddy?

23 posted on 07/20/2009 9:51:38 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 181 of our national holiday from reality. - He really isn't one of US.)
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To: Spiff

Not on the Churches part, just Obama’s.


24 posted on 07/20/2009 9:52:00 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ChocChipCookie

He just had a private meeting with Jewish leaders. This is a routine meeting. And, whenever a Mormon leader meets with a dignitary of sufficiently high rank, it has become customary to present a copy of his genealogy. They’ve done it for several previous presidents. And, since we can only based our research on public records, the Mormon church cannot “establish” Obama’s citizenship. Furthermore, his place of birth is irrelevant to what they are doing, and I’m confident they will take his word for who his parents are. They will just search public records for the ancestry of those parents.

As a suspicious Mormon, I wonder whether Reid thinks he can parlay President Monson’s deep concern for those in need into institutional support for socialized medicine. I doubt it. I don’t know what President Monson’s political affiliations are, or have been. I know he is a great advocate of private charitable service, but that doesn’t necessarily translate into support for government run health care.

I am glad to see that he has taken Dallin Oaks with him. He is a brilliant lawyer, and solid conservative, IMO.


25 posted on 07/20/2009 9:54:00 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: null and void

They will take his word for that.


26 posted on 07/20/2009 9:54:42 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: pissant

When he sees proof of how WHITE he is and that his AFRICAN-ARAB ancestors sold African-Negros to White ship owners to be sold in the USofA as slaves, he’ll probably mail the volume back to the LDS in priority mail.

I hope the LDS has enough sense to carry a small digital recorder to the ‘closed’ meeting.


27 posted on 07/20/2009 9:56:30 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I believe in CHOICE: Let the Fetus decide whether to be born or to spontaneously abort. FETAL CHOICE)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Does anyone know if he has met privately with leaders of other non-Muslim religious groups?

He just met with the Pope.

28 posted on 07/20/2009 10:04:47 AM PDT by Zetman
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To: dools007

I agree with you — more and more church leaders bow to the left and frankly they can take it and shove it. This is wrong out of the Mormon leadership to give Zero credibility if they do not have a certified copy of the original birth certificate.

There is a reason I don’t trust Mormons in leadership in our Country — we are seeing Reid undercut everyone who is demanding to see the Birth Certificate along with the head of the Mormon Church.

So how did they find the marriage/divorce records when no one else seems to be able to find them? I smell at huge RAT!


29 posted on 07/20/2009 10:05:18 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: pissant

I could have saved a bunch of paper...

Unknown
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Barack Obama
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etc...


30 posted on 07/20/2009 10:07:33 AM PDT by j_guru
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To: pissant
Can you imagine the LDS bargaining with Obonehead... “you see Mr. President, we have incontrovertible evidence you were born in Kenya, what we want to know is, what are you willing to give us, the LDS nation, to keep it under wraps?” The birth certificate won't see the light of day.
31 posted on 07/20/2009 10:10:34 AM PDT by opaque soul (Condensing gas to solid state, truth the soul does make opaque.)
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To: pissant

“The meeting, to take place in the Oval Office on Monday afternoon, is closed to the press and was first announced Sunday night.”

Not only is Obama an impostor, he’s clearly sinister and a downright criminal!


32 posted on 07/20/2009 10:13:40 AM PDT by Finop (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.)
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping


33 posted on 07/20/2009 10:13:58 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (There is no justice at the Dept. of Justice when Black Panthers are cleared for terrorizing voters.)
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To: pissant

Ancestry records are only correct when the ‘parentage’ is correct..... ;)


34 posted on 07/20/2009 10:18:39 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: BossLady

Funny, he don’t look a thing like Obama Sr. either


35 posted on 07/20/2009 10:19:17 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: greyfoxx39

Wouldn’t it be great if Obama had the nads to ask what gave the LDS the right to dead-dunk his mother.

(excerpt taken from exmormon.org)


36 posted on 07/20/2009 10:23:00 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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Thanks, pissant.

Mormon leader to bring family records to Obama (hmmmmm)
Wash Times ^ | 7/20/09 | Chrissy Bellatoni

President Obama Monday is hosting the leader of the Mormon church at the White House, who will present the president with detailed volumes of Mr. Obama's family history.

[snip]

A source said the church will present Mr. Obama with five large leather-bound volumes that go back through generations of the president's family. Mr. Obama's father was born in Kenya. His mother Stanley Ann Dunham was from Kansas.

37 posted on 07/20/2009 10:25:33 AM PDT by LucyT (If it isn't on Free Republic, it didn't happen. -- Jim Robinson)
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To: pissant

Team Frank Marshall Davis!!! :o


38 posted on 07/20/2009 10:26:48 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: LucyT

Bwahahaha. I bet there’s a long-form birth certificate in one of those five volumes. /sarc


39 posted on 07/20/2009 10:27:04 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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Well that brings all into focus.........WHY the madman has been in contact with LDS; who has been so highly regarded in genealogy circles. Be prepared everyone for the legitimization of BHO
40 posted on 07/20/2009 10:36:36 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The Light at the end of the Tunnel, is the Headlamp of an Oncoming Train)
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How far does it go before ending up in primordial soup or a greasy spot somewhere in Africa?


41 posted on 07/20/2009 10:38:01 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: pissant

WHERE”S THE LONG FORM of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE???????


42 posted on 07/20/2009 10:39:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: null and void
LDS Family Search

All one has to do is go to their site and fill out the information.

What comes out is as good as what a person puts in. Anyone can fill in information and I have seen several different birthdates or death dates of an individual put in by different people who were just guessing.

43 posted on 07/20/2009 10:48:30 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Genealogical records are only as good as the research and data that go into them. There are often errors and omissions that need correction as the research proceeds. These records have zero impact on the requirement to produce the long form birth certificate to prove eligibility. It's a garbage in/garbage out piece of work.
44 posted on 07/20/2009 10:49:09 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Da Coyote
Projects like this usually start out with the church asking the person: Tell us the names, birth, and death information on your parents, and (if possible) your grandparents, and we will start there with our research. Anything in the gift books about Obama will be what Obama tells them. One cannot go to the church genealogy records for information about living people.
45 posted on 07/20/2009 10:52:38 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: LucyT

What in the world??

Thanks, LucyT

Ping.


46 posted on 07/20/2009 10:57:51 AM PDT by Iowan
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To: pissant
How did they do a search when we have know idea where (or even when) barry was born?
Does Africa keep genealogy records?
47 posted on 07/20/2009 10:58:30 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: Krodg

Man, thats the truth.
I do not know where there information comes from but sometimes is really wrong.


48 posted on 07/20/2009 11:00:12 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: Sequoyah101

Are you insinuating that our Kenyan president is a direct descendant of scum?


49 posted on 07/20/2009 11:03:56 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Spunky

Garbage In
Gospel Out


50 posted on 07/20/2009 11:04:14 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 181 of our national holiday from reality. - He really isn't one of US.)
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