Posted on 07/20/2009 12:49:32 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
After more than 60 years together, Jimmy Carter has announced himself at odds with the Southern Baptist Church -- and he's decided it's time they go their separate ways. Via Feministing, the former president called the decision "unavoidable" after church leaders prohibited women from being ordained and insisted women be "subservient to their husbands." Said Carter in an essay in The Age:
At its most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to the wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and influence within their own communities.
And, later:
The truth is that male religious leaders have had -- and still have -- an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter. Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world.
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I guess he’ll become a Sunni now, or maybe a Persian Shia.
I don’t believe anything he says and distrust anything that motivates him. However, for what it is worth, if I went to a church like that then I’d leave it to.
Baptist ping
I thought it was bad when this evil little troll took out on President Bush but now he's gone after St. Paul! His arrogance has no bounds.
Your denomination just improved with this loss.
I'm not a Baptist, but neither was Carter.
And keep going, please, Jimmah.
He is TOTALLY distorting the statement about women submitting themselves to the husbands.
Of course, that’s what those of a worldly worldview do - follow the techniques and practices of their father, the devil (John 8:42-47)
Just go away, Jimmy.
jimmy carter is a woman
He has lusted after women in his heart. ;)
What part of Gen 3:16 is Carter having problems with?
I guess he missed the part about husbands loving their wives as Christ loves the Church (self sacrificial love)
I’m glad I just have the submit part!
(and no I’m not a Baptist, but the scripture says what it says)
If he were logical, he would repudiate the death cult for its treatment of women.
He left the Southern Baptists at least two years ago, probably more. It was all over the papers here.
This is like a third-hand article from some feminist blog. Maybe they JUST heard about it . . . .
This is the same president who kisses up to Islamic extremist....WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!!!!!1
Hahahaha. Stop you’re killing me.
I wonder where that statue is?
The Bible does speak of wives subservience to husbands — but I fail to see how that is equivalent to all women being subserviant to all men. I also fail to see how that excuses slavery, rape, mutiliation, etc. ...
Carter distorts the position of the SBC, then leaves based on the distortion?
SD
IIRC, he started a new religion with x42.
This could only come from someone who has absolutely no understanding of the Bible.
Of course — he’s smarter than the scriptures.
This is what I thought...I remember the episode where he attended some environmental-friendly Baptist group meeting and said that he was going a different direction. My question....after he said he was leaving two years ago...did he just forget that and this is actual real end now? Or is this fake too, and a third episode will occur in two years?
If only I could get him to leave the country.
But, but, but, but that means he can’t teach Baptist Sunday school anymore. And he needs that for his P.R. image, doesn’t he? He’s too old to swing a hammer and crawl around houses under construction by Habitat for Humanity, so he needs the Sunday School gig all the more.
What’s Jimmuh going to do if he can’t teach Sunday School anymore? Episcopalians don’t have Sunday School.
I guess he’ll have to make do with Madrassa guest lectures.
Yeah, that was my thought. He should just get it over with an become a Muslim.
So he's been ok with it for 60 years and now he's seen the light?
I don't think any of the above follow from the Biblical notion that the husband is the head of the household who also has a duty to love his wife and childrens for whom he is responsible.
Baptists everywhere rejoice. You will never see him this critical of Islam.
Pray for America
Not to be a smart-alec, but I’ll wager that the Southern Baptists are relieved to be done with him. Most Baptists are big supporters of Israel, and it’s become apparent that Carter is a Judas to Israel.
If you pin most leftist “Christians” down on the conflicts between their ideology and the plain statements of the Bible,
they’ll reject scripture in favor of their liberal ideology.
Several places in the Bible tell of such people. James 4:4 probably says it best:
You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Not to be a smart-alec, but I’ll wager that the Southern Baptists are relieved to be done with him. Most Baptists are big supporters of Israel, and it’s become apparent that Carter is a Judas to Israel.
You can't judge other cultures, you fascist bigot! They're quaint! [/sarcasm]
Oh Golly! I thought he had left years ago!
Oh well - the SBC is FINALLY done with him.
What is going to do quit every couple of years? I know he’s done this once before and threatened over other things.
Jimmy should read the Bible before inserting his left-leaning foot in his mouth.
News to me! Around here we don't mch care what Jimmy's doing...quitting or joining
Jimmy Carter says he can 'no longer be associated' with the SBC
He did recently (July 19 I think) write an article for The Age which is quoted by this blog.
SO . . . this is just Jimmuh who cannot live unless the Press is paying attention to him. "Look at me! Look at Me! I'll recycle old stories until you LOOK AT ME!"
Jimmah, have you ever read this part of the scripture quote? Do you recall what Christ did for the church? Isn't this more than enough to make up for the man having the final say-so in family policy matters? Shouldn't you, if you are really a follower of Jesus, be reminding people inside of your congregation of how deeply and truely husbands should love, care for and cherish their wives, rather than taking the easy way out and walking?
Men and women think differently. There’s no argument on that score. Consequently, it is entirely understandable if God wants to set up the church around a patriarchal structure to achieve His ends for the church. Jimmy seems to be falling for the heresy or apostasy of arguing that since Jimmy doesn’t believe that women should be barred from leadership roles then God either couldn’t have meant it or should listen to Jimmy more.
As I read the scriptures, you’ve got to do some pretty mean mental backflips to put women in the leadership positions. In fact, I cannot see anywhere in the text where any of the apostles or Jesus supported women in the leadership role (as opposed to other critical roles within the church), and plenty of passages in which women in the leadership role are a bad idea. Methinks Jimmy hasn’t opened his bible in a long, long time.
Why now? The Southern Baptists have banned women from being pastors for decades now. It’s been pretty clear for sometime that they weren’t going to change.
Surprised he didn’t leave over SBC support of Israel.
Since I live in Atlanta, I could hardly avoid hearing about it. I was mistaken, though - it was almost ten years ago, not recently.
if one chooses different parts of God’s Word to exclude, then one is “doing exactly what he wants to do” - playing like he knows as much as God..
Carter and obamanation have a lot in common
He doesn’t know his bible and evidently disagrees with what he does know.
Women are supposed to be reveared. Men are supposed to be leaders.
Carter is an idiot
I thought Jimma and Bubba began their own Baptist sect a couple of years ago.
I thought he had done that years ago and joined a progressive Baptist denomination.
Well, it can only improve the Southern Baptists.
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