Posted on 07/26/2009 9:32:49 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
Do Americans want a federal board deciding if their kids need surgery?
Those greedy doctors. You come in and youve got a bad sore throat, or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, President Obama explained at Wednesdays press conference. The doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kids tonsils out.
If thats what he really thinks is wrong with U.S. health careand with the medical professionthen ObamaCare is going to be even worse than we thought. The point Mr. Obama oversimplified is that the way the U.S. pays for medical services can encourage some physicians to prescribe unnecessary tests or treatments, especially in Medicare. But his implication is that doctors arent acting in the best interests of their patients in order, basically, to rob them.
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They don't take your tonsils out anymore for sore or strep throats. They have since discovered, YEARS AGO, that tonsils are a line of defense and need to REMAIN right where they are. Obama is an IDIOT.
But wait..... If medical procedures like abortion are private matters between a woman and her doctor why isn’t a tonsillectomy?
The idea that this guy is brilliant continues to be lost on me.
Ah, when it comes to abortion - can’t have enough of them!
No sir! Taxpayers need to FUND them. Just think - less “carbon footprints” and “save the earth” and all that rot.
Ah, when it comes to abortion - can’t have enough of them!
No sir! Taxpayers need to FUND them. Just think - less “carbon footprints” and “save the earth” and all that rot.
You can have an abortion at ANY time for ANY reason. Abortions are CASH COWS for the unscrupulous doctors and interns out there. They make ALLOT of $$$ off them. Need I mention how they SCARE about to be Moms into aborting babies due to real or imaginary problems with the unborn baby? They constantly do that.
I’ve occasionally encountered specialists inclined to act this way. IMO it is not so much greed as the old adage about if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In my case, no I did not want a chip drilled out of my skull without further proof that it was going to resolve the problem, which was ultimately addressed by noninvasive means.
What frightens me is that many think he is “brilliant”.
His “oratory skills” leave me less than impressed as well ... . He sounds like a used car salesman that is a street thug in his off time dealing drugs around the corner. Obama is truly a disgrace. The best we can hope for is a lame duck President.
END STAGE RENAL (KIDNEY DISEASE) AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES EVERY CITIZEN TO AUTOMATIC COVERAGE UNDER MEDICARE, REGARDLESS OF AGE!!!!
Yet, our idiot of a President trots out someone with kidney trouble and claims, somehow, that the current health care system has failed her?
Can anyone believe this guy is the president?They said bush was stupid.The bamster is not much more than a street thug in a nice suit.
I’m 51 and I still have mine. My doctor told my mom the same thing way back when.
More to the point:
A primary care MD, like a Pediatrician, does not do surgery!
Surgeons do surgery!!
Was this reported in the MSM Obama cover up press.
I fail to see any brilliance either, not now, not ever.
Obama claims the pediatricians are becoming super-rich performing tonsillectomies.
What an (expletive deleted)....
What is really so sad about this is that many of the loving parents of today will really think the government is better able to decide what their children need than their doctor and themselves. The result of the liberal education system that has indoctrinated them to believe the government is the answer to all their needs and their problems.
Same here. I'm also in my 50’s. I would constantly get strp throats. My parents would not allow them to remove them. Later it turned out you NEED them.
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He oversimplifies.
He particularly likes to dream up fictitious enemies that say things he can then appear to knock down. He loves straw man arguments. He never names anyone specific. “SOme say”, “There are those that say”, “A few naysayers complain that..”
Nobody in real life ever says what he says are the arguments against what he wants to do. That’s why he uses straw men, if he used someone real they could say “I never said that and Obama’s lying.”
Look how well it went for him to ad lib about Gates and the stupid officers. Can’t use real people. He screws up.
Straw men are the ultimate communist way of knocking down opposition. Watch “Animal Farm” or “1984” (ie Goldstein).
Me too.
When I was younger, every illness I ever got ended up in my tonsils. So swollen, I oft times needed a spit cup. Countless salt water gargles... yuk. The doctor wanted to remove them, numerous times. My mom said no. She said that if I did not need them, God would not have put them there and if I removed them, where would the illness go?
Hahaha. I am pushing 50, have four siblings and we all have our tonsils.
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The President of the United States has now insulted the Police Officers, the CEO's of major institutions, and the Doctors of this country. Will there ever be an end to these insults? Is there a profession, anywhere, that is safe from the ridicule of this man?
And what a stupid comment that is. What about the bureaucrat that is making this decision? What is his motivation going to be? His motivation will be... "What if we deny this treatment, we can save the program lots of money, and I'll get my BONUS if I save money this month."
So if I'm choosing whether to trust my Doctor or to trust some Washington bureaucrats to have the right motivation, I'm going to pick my Doctor, a man who at the very least must look me in the eye when he tells me what the options are, and who knows me personally and is professionally educated to know what he is doing.
It’s even worse. Obama is suggesting that the kid’s pediatrician at the clinic is in cahoots with the surgeon at the local hospital to perform unnecessary surgeries. He is plaining stating that the pediatrician is referring the kid to the surgeon to perform an unnecessary surgery and kick some of the money back to the pediatrician, i.e., that there are two unethical doctors who do not care about the patient’s well-being.
I have NEVER KNOWN a doctor or surgeon like that and doubt that many are that crooked.
For him to blanketly condemn the entire medical profession like that is reprehensible — but so like a commie.
pain pills and breath a lizers.. wonder if zero will have breath a lizers handy after his beer swilling diplomacy on race?
D’OH. “...He is plainly stating...”
The absurd part of Obama's accusation is the singling out of pediatricians - perhaps the most caring of all physicians.
We can add Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Louis Farrakhan, Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, Raila Odinga, Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour and others with similar radical backgrounds. There were many in this nation who tried to warn others who Zer0 was and what he would do to this nation. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
One figure who seems to have touched the whole spectrum of left wing agitators is Saul Alinsky. At the heart of the Alinsky method is the concept of “agitation”— making someone angry enough about the rotten state of his life that he agrees to take action to change it; or, as Alinsky himself described the job, to “rub raw the sores of discontent.” I guess sore throats come into that category.
Fact of the matter is, doctors do surgeries such as tonsilectomies to protect against lawsuits later on in the child’s life.
A Pediatrician or OB-Gyn can be on the hook, in some cases, until the kid turns...not 18, but two years beyond.
Think John Edwards and all the medical lawsuits pursued in Mississippi.
Sometimes they need to come out. I don't miss mine which were yanked when I was 4. I am now 67. I don't miss all the strep throat I used to get either. The point is though, the doctors are slower today in taking them out, most people who do have them removed today have it done when they are in their teens and some adults. Most of the time they don't need to come out.
You know, I have run across some arrogant doctors. I have seen doctors that were so stupid it made me wonder if they got their degrees out of a magazine. I have seen some that should not have been practicing because they made stupid, stupid decisions, and patients died because of it.
But I have never seen a doctor that made decisions in order to try and make more money. Maybe they exist out there. But I’ve never seen one. And I don’t thnk King O has either.
BTTT!
What about my infected appendix that was removed before it burst? Should it have been left in?
I am neither God nor a doctor... sorry, I’ve no answer for you.
Just goes to show what happens when we put lawyers in charge. They only see doctors as the next malpractice case.














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EXACTLY!!!!!!!! Democrats are SUCH Hypocrites!
If it worked the way Obama says it works, the pediatrician would say to himself, “even though this kid needs his tonsils out I earn a few bucks every time he comes in for a sore throat, so I’ll just keep milking it. “ That stupid Bret Baer (subbing for Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday) had Gibbs on yesterday with this very point at issue, and didn’t make the point, even as this editorial doesn’t until your comment. It’s breath-taking that they are trying to take over the healthcare system with a 0 knowledge base.
Obama is merely projecting all politicians mentality onto the medical profession. Mind you I am anything but an apologist for the medical profession.
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If Obama wants to save money on health care, start by outlawing abortions!
Mark
And I've read that in England, end stage renal failure care in the elderly is now being refused, due to a lack of resources.
Mark
Correctamundo. Tonsillectomy, once common, is now a fairly unusual step, only used as a last resort. Everybody knows this. But then most Americans know how to throw a baseball.
The Magic Marxist Mulatto has to be a geek from another planet. Sergeant Crowley arrested the wrong guy. He should have jumped in his cruiser to investigate the guy who broke into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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