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Barack's little "African" problem. (vanity)
Me | 7-27-2009 | Danae

Posted on 07/27/2009 11:12:35 AM PDT by Danae

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To: meatloaf

That’s what I understood it to be from. Happened during the Slave Trade with coastal African tribes inland tribes taking out rival tribes and Arab slave traders. I am not well versed in African History I admit... though I could take a class in that from AMU, in which I am sure I would learn a lot...


41 posted on 07/27/2009 11:53:27 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae
No. 7% lower numbers with "black" voters. IF "blacks" vote in numbers commensurate with their population percentage figures (which I do not think is the case; i think it is much lower) then 7% of the "black vote" amounts to only about 2.1% of the total vote, at most.
42 posted on 07/27/2009 11:53:50 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Danae

I think you should send it. Whatever is on the long form would blow things up is for sure with spending over $1M to keep it quiet. Same with the college records if he was on a foreign student scholarship — it would blow up.

Thanks for the info!


43 posted on 07/27/2009 11:54:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: PRO 1; Danae
What the hell is BC and COLB mean? Authors should know that not all readers swim in the same waters they do.

If you've been a regular poster around here since 2000, BC and COLB should mean as much to you as FBI and POTUS.

If you haven't been a regular poster/reader, maybe you could ask nicely, as you are the one who is uninformed.

44 posted on 07/27/2009 11:55:13 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: PRO 1; Danae
What the hell is BC and COLB mean? Authors should know that not all readers swim in the same waters they do.

If you've been a regular poster around here since 2000, BC and COLB should mean as much to you as FBI and POTUS.

If you haven't been a regular poster/reader, maybe you could ask nicely, as you are the one who is uninformed.

45 posted on 07/27/2009 11:55:21 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: AppyPappy

There were arabs involved in the slave trade in Africa, and this is speculated to be the source. But I am no expert in African history and I will be the first to admit that. I am only using information I have seen repeatedly. That being said, he still had a problem with being black enough. Certainly in Illinois, as his previous political campaign revealed in his loss.


46 posted on 07/27/2009 11:55:54 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae
Well, your theory would explain why he took on the Gates issue on the health care presser. He had to prove his “creds” sooner rather than later. After the Gatesgates no one can deny that he had a knee-jerk reaction based only on race.
47 posted on 07/27/2009 11:57:26 AM PDT by madinmadtown (Nuclear...better to mispronounce it, than not understand it.)
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To: Danae; erkyl
On another thread, I was speculating somewhat along the same lines -- that the original long form birth certificate contains information that is embarassing to BO.

My theory was that it was "father unknown" or "bastard", depending on how Hawaii phrased it in those days, and the trouble started when the grandparents tried to manufacture a marriage for their daughter to give her little illegitimate baby at least the fictitious appearance of legitimacy. Hence the lack of a marriage license, odd newspaper announcements without any of the usual information, conflicting addresses, etc. Hence, perhaps, a quickie uncontested divorce without any inquiry into the circumstances of a marriage that never took place.

But it makes at least as much sense for BO's grandparents to have tried to get him the opportunity to "pass" as Caucasian, given the times and the scandal that would have ensued otherwise.

And of course that would have backfired more recently, although nobody at the time ever imagined in their wildest dreams that BO would be running for president some day, largely on the basis of his actual racial heritage. . . . .

48 posted on 07/27/2009 11:58:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Danae

“Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.”

If they counted the vote by who won EACH COUNTY in the country, he wouldn’t be there and all this whole mess wouldn’t have happened. But it has and we must persevere!


49 posted on 07/27/2009 11:58:48 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: jcsjcm

“but Obama Sr. surely was mostly Arab.”

He was never Arab and you can’t prove he was Arab. Someone told you that and you just believed it without question.


50 posted on 07/27/2009 11:58:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Danae

“There were arabs involved in the slave trade in Africa, and this is speculated to be the source.”

It’s irrelevant though. His ancestory stays in Africa. One of the descendents(Obama’s grandfather) converted from Christianity to Islam.


51 posted on 07/27/2009 12:00:42 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Danae
According to a friend (A Black Minister from Chicago to be exact) that this was the case. He did have a problem with the whole Black enough question.

I think the race pimps, such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, resented Obama as a usurper of their role. However, for ordinary blacks and many libtard whites he was plenty black enough.

Jesse takes umbrage at "Barack talkin' down to black people"

Barack the Magic Negro

52 posted on 07/27/2009 12:02:09 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Danae
Dear Danae,

In a main branch, there may be an abundance of vice presidents.

I remember when I got my first business loans from the [now-defunct] National Bank of Washington, it seemed that every other person to whom I was introduced was a vice president. My then-business partner and I would joke that the only folks there who weren't vice presidents were the cleaning crew.

Like I said, I don't mean to minimize the position - it's a pretty good one - but it doesn't place one near the pinnacle of society in most larger venues.


sitetest

53 posted on 07/27/2009 12:04:44 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: AppyPappy

http://www.freebase.com/view/en/barack_obama_sr

And this:
Every ancestor on his father’s side has an Arabic name, because his father was officially classified as “Arab African” by the Kenyan government.
100% African tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father’s decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to ethnically separate from the African tribes. Researching his roots reveal that on his father’s side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region. Funny how circular is history; now the British again face the Madhi Army, albeit this time Shiite, not Sunni, as in nineteenth century Sudan.

So, no one told me! I can find more information if you would like? I read a lot!


54 posted on 07/27/2009 12:06:46 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: erkyl

As I have been thinking about this, something occurs to me... all the nudie shots of Ann Duhnam in the possession of Frank Marshal. It does not seem logical to me that he would get those pictures on some sort of a fluke, particularly if they were taken in his house... be that as it may, I think Ann was perhaps attracted to black men, certainly she was not at all repulsed, and why should she be? Personality and other personal characteristics are a lot more important to me than skin color, but then I grew up in Hawaii as a white Haole and so I look at race issues from a different perspective than some. Certainly I have a different one than Stanley Ann Dunham’s mom did.


55 posted on 07/27/2009 12:07:36 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae

Major error: The baby’s race is not listed on the COLB.

Also, whatever point you made about 2000 vs. 2007 on your COLB is not coming through in what you began your piece with.


56 posted on 07/27/2009 12:07:50 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: SamuraiScot

Yep. My friend did not equivocate in the least. She said that Black people did NOT see him as black enough. Not sort of thought that, she said that they absolutely thought that.


57 posted on 07/27/2009 12:10:51 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae

I would guess each parent’s race would be entered separately on the birth certificate. Barack’s mother would be listed as “Caucasian” and his father perhaps as “Negro,” perhaps as “African.” But I really doubt they would have called the baby “Caucasian” when he obviously wasn’t entirely of white ancestry, however they would have put it (”mulatto”?).


58 posted on 07/27/2009 12:12:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jcsjcm

“Every ancestor on his father’s side has an Arabic name,”

Completely and totally false. When was the last time you saw someone with an “Arabic” name? Arabs give their kids Muslim names. Obama’s name is MUSLIM, not Arabic.

The nutbags who wrote this stuff couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. They don’t even know the difference between Arabic and Muslim


59 posted on 07/27/2009 12:12:41 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: WayneS

YOu can’t just look at the overall Nation, you have to look at the states where the vote was really close. There were several that were just a couple thousand votes or far less that decided an entire states electoral vote. You have to look at the numbers state by state and I am betting that in at least a couple of cases, they tipped Obama over the edge. Some of the NE states and one or two others were really close. It could have been a factor. Certainly it is widely believed, correctly that the overwhelming black support put Obama over the top. That’s not something that anyone can deny, it totally did. If McCain had gotten even 6% of the black vote, it may have changed the outcome in some states, whether or not that would have changed the eventual outcome I don’t know. I don’t have the numbers to be able to say.


60 posted on 07/27/2009 12:15:28 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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