Skip to comments.Soldiers & Lawyers Readying Class-Action Lawsuits Against (Non?) President Obama
Posted on 07/28/2009 9:43:04 AM PDT by MindBender26
Behind the scenes, at many military bases across the country and around the world, a not-too quiet challenge is developing against Barack Obama and his questionable qualifications to be President of the United States.
Most FReepers are familiar with the ongoing civil litigation against Obama. Plaintiffs claim he is not constitutionally qualified to be president because he does not meet the legal description of a natural-born citizen.
Obamas lawyers have never entered pleadings on the MERITS of the plaintiffs cases. They oppose the plaintiffs suits on the issue of standing. They claim the plaintiffs do not have a right to sue. Generally, that standing claim is well-founded. Giving every citizen the right to sue the president would be a nightmare. Can you imagine George Bush defending 10,000,000 individual suits by Dems over the war in Iraq?
But recently, one plaintiff had a strong chance of being given standing to sue. The plaintiff was an Army Reserve Major, Stefan Frederick Cook, from the Tampa area. His call-up to active duty positioned him as a person who could demonstrate the likelihood of real damages if Obama was not a legally-elected president. Cook could be killed, wounded or even charged as a war criminal if Obama was not legally the president.
He sued, claiming Obama was not legally qualified to be President, not legally qualified to order him to do anything.
The judge was set to begin preliminary hearings when the government lawyers dropped a legal bomb. They canceled Maj. Cooks orders for the obvious purpose of denying him standing. With Major Cook longer on activation orders, the case was moot and was dismissed by the judge.
This hugely significant legal surrender by the government was noticed by every lawyer in the country watching this issue. It also immediately became an enormous topic of conversation in every barracks in America. If Obama was willing to cancel one soldiers deployment orders because of a court challenge to his right to be president, what would he do the next time someone raised the issue?
As a result, service members and lawyers began action immediately. It is believed that as many as 100 lawyers are preparing to file litigation such as Maj. Cooks. This litigation would be in many courts across the country and put a huge strain on the Obama-DNC legal team. Do they cancel 100 sets of orders this week, only to face 1000 suits next week?
Even worse, sources close to some of the potential litigants tell me that at least four lawyers, including one very well known conservative Vietnam veteran-lawyer, are seeking enough clients so they can petition the court for the establishment of a Class of Plaintiffs in a proposed class action case. If that happens, then every military service member on orders for SWA would be covered.
At that point, Obama has no viable legal option. He has proven himself unwilling to try the case on its merits, and willing to cancel orders to avoid having to face discovery. How can he be POTUS and CINC if he cannot issue orders to the military he claims to command?
From there, every time Obama tries to act under color of law in any matter, military of not, someone sues and Obamas action ceases.
This is an important turning point in a case of incredible constitutional and legal significance.
Just release the long-form birth certificate. That’s the best evidence.
The main factor driving my suspicions of SOME kind of problem is Obama himself.
This is beginning to remind me of Nixon and the tapes.
Should be interesting how they handle this (if true). One thing is clear...it ain’t going away.
This might explain what is happening right now. The attack has been widespread,vicious, and relentless.
I am not sure you could keep this kind of thing quiet..so it may be rumbling through the inner sanctum and thus the call to arms from Rahm.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if this pushed congress towards increased tort reform?!
This will never go away until the truth is known!
like, they are leaving town? the democrat party is up to its neck in this if zerO is proven fraudulent
Now don’t leave us dangling....give us a litle more info, what do you mean “more tomorrow”?
If this happened under Bush or McCain, we would call it mutiny or desertion. It’s the same thing under a president we dislike. The vast majority of people in the armed forces understand that Obama is the Commander in Chief and do their duty.
It is very irresponsible for Freepers to support these actions. I don’t think the birth certificate “issue” is real, but even if it is, there are plenty of civillians to pursue it.
That’s what I’ve been saying all along....a class action
suite. Yeah, it’s about time....
Please keep us informed, I am afraid for the Republic.
I was willing to consider that BO was not a lawful President until Bill O’Reilly (BO - hmmm coincident?)
pronounced him native born because Hawaii sent him his birth certificate — guess that closes the case —— what a buffoon!
Under what national authority is our military being sent to war? Kenya? Indonesia?
IF.... Oboma was born in Hawaii in 1955, Hawaii was not a U.S. state at the time. They didn't gain statehood until 1959. IF....he was born before Hawaii got U.S. statehood. He was, if fact, born on foreign soil under a foreign government.
Just a thought.
Almost all our Military officers take this oath seriously:
“I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
God bless them and God bless the United States of America.
Don't know why I didn't make the connection between the outcome of the Maj. Cook case and the sudden barrage of naysaying from the MSM over the last week, but there is is.
It's pretty obvious to me, that the order from Rahm and Axelrod went out to the Obama Ministry of Propaganda (aka, the MSM) that the eligibility issue had to be crushed with overwhelming force RIGHT NOW.
This is obviously why. They're scared to death now.
Who is the author of this article? Is this just another opinion piece fron an anonymous source?
I guess you haven’t been following along.... the courts keep ruling that we as citizens do not have the right to ensure that our President complies with the mandates of the constitution. Therefore, there are not civilians who are able to persue this action - many have tried - none were allowed.
Is it unreasonable to expect a person to prove “natural born citizenship” when it is clearly delineated in the constitution? Heck, my son had to show a birth certificate to play little league, and some might argue tha the Presidency is a little more important than second base!
Why? You can't just throw out a charge of "mutiny" or "desertion" by saying: "Oh pish posh those sillies......"
I'd like to see your reasoning why you don't think the birth certificate "issue" is real if all these soldiers are nothing more than deserters.
Not to mention the fact that mutiny and desertion are two totally separate things, mutiny isn't always a bad thing.....
Wherever he was born, he was born after Hawii became a state... don’t think that was ever a question. Last time I looked at the map, Kenya wasn’t one of the 52 states...
Praise the Lord! thanks for your hard work Bender.
This is great news. Obama’s little maneuvre re: Cook has backfired right in his face as it ought to. No country like the United States with it’s Constitution can have a blank slate for President and he is beginning to look guiltier by the day.
I have NO doubt that the Thug is a complete FRAUD. He is so arrogant tho and up to now he has convinced himself that he can do and say anything he damn well pleases. He breaks the Constitution daily and it’s about time that the Courts stepped in and FORCED this issue. It’s about as Constitutional as you can get!! Brilliant!! CO
Then feel free to ignore the Obama bc threads from this point out. Repeating that you "don't believe it" ad nauseum isn't adding anything of value to the discussion.
Civies can’t get standing.
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Obama can NEVER be a lawful President of the USA because his father was a BRITISH SUBJECT, and Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth. He can never be a NATURAL Born Citizen as require by the US Constitution.
I take it the US Constitution is important to you?
That buttmonkey at CNN needs to read this and get himself the first clue of his life.
The best thing would be Unit Sized refusal of illegal orders. Legal action on mass.
Something BIG in the “0bama mystique” is a BIG LIE,
and these documents will out that lie.
It may not necessarily be his eligibility for president...
Mutiny or desertion would only apply if they said they won’t serve... regardless of the Birth Certificate situation. They’re simply questioning his authority at this point. And civilians have all been shut down for lack of standing, so that’s not really an option at this point.
This seems like the best way to get at the truth. I say “more power to them.”
These people are being sent to war by what could be an alien entity. If I were being sent, possibly to my death, to war by an Indonesian or Kenyan citizen, I would definitely object. Military personal take an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the American citizens it serves. An alien president, who could very easily have loyalties to his home country, does not fit into this oath.
I believe the contrary. I think Freepers should overwhelmingly demand proof of citizenship by ANY president before we're subject to his/her authority. If anyone questions their citisensghip, those questions should be promptly answered on demand - especially for those in the military.
This is an important matter. Our next president could possibly be an illegal alien. After Oboma, who could stop it? A president has been set. The camels head is already in the tent.
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This is good. Very good. It shouldn't be this hard to find out a presidents citizenship. This is just insane.
zer0’s birthday = August 4, 1961.
Our unsurpassed Armed Forces. They’ve been saving the World in so many countries...now they may be saving the homefront. Wow.
Article by the OP.
Someone posted a long section from US immigration law today in which it said that anyone who was born in a foreign country and had one foreign parent and one parent who had been born in the US and was a US citizen and had lived here for at least 2 years after the age of 14 would qualify as a natural born citizen. If this is so, then it does seem as if he would be a citizen even if he had been born in Kenya, since his mother was born here and had lived here at least 2 years after the age of 14.
So in that case, what is he hiding? Maybe he just doesn’t want the extent of his lies to be known, maybe there’s some other information in there. But there must be something, or he’d just show it.
Thanks for the ping.
As Bette Davis said in “All About Eve”... “Fasten your seat belts...it’s going to be a bumpy night!”
I think the birth certificate is only one thing we should demand. Personally, I’m more interested in his school records, medical records, records from his years in the IL state senate, school admissions documents, and much, much more. American elected a freakin’ cipher, for God’s sake, and we’re not being at all unreasonable to ask some hard questions about his past.
Looks like Barry will have no army to defend DC when the American people decide to rise up on him?
I think so.!! This could really “blow up” the big fat charade we have all been witnessing huh? CO
Thanks for the ping.
As Bette Davis said in “All About Eve”... “Fasten your seat belts...it’s going to be a bumpy night!”