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Obama's birth certificate - MoveOn.com takes on Lou Dobbs
The Cherry Creek News ^ | July 29, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 07/29/2009 5:04:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

MoveOn is taking on Lou Dobbs and CNN: Why is CNN promoting right-wing paranoid conspiracy theories about President Obama's birth certificate?

The fringe ideas of the so-called "birthers" have been thoroughly debunked.1 But CNN host Lou Dobbs perpetuates these myths by constantly talking about them on his shows and asserting that Obama still needs to "produce a birth certificate."

This is not responsible journalism. Our friends at Media Matters have launched a campaign calling on CNN to address its Lou Dobbs problem — but a lot of us are going to have to speak out in order to get CNN's attention. Clicking here will add your name to their petition:

http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/

The petition reads:

Dobbs' relentless promotion of outlandish conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama's birth certificate seriously damages CNN's credibility. It is time for "The Most Trusted Name in News" to prove it deserves viewers' trust. We the undersigned demand CNN address its Lou Dobbs problem in a credible manner. Numerous reporters, including CNN's own hosts, have debunked the idea that Obama wasn't really born in the U.S.2

Nevertheless, Dobbs has repeatedly claimed on both his television and radio shows that the birth certificate the president posted online more than a year ago has "some issues"3—and lashed out at "lily- livered lefties" who criticized him.

CNN's reputation is on the line. Their president, Jon Klein, has admitted that anyone who "is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef"—but he has refused to correct the situation.4

CNN needs to hear that allowing Dobbs' to promote "birther" conspiracy theories is simply irresponsible. Please sign the petition by clicking here:

http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/

Sources:

1, 2. "As Dobbs digs in, CNN rebuts, ridicules, distances itself from birth certificate claims." Media Matters for America, July 22, 2009. http://mediamatters.org/research/200907220035

"Born in the USA." FactCheck.org. November 1, 2009. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

3. "Dobbs repeatedly makes Obama birth certificate claims his CNN colleagues call 'total bull'." Media Matters for America, July 17, 2009. http://mediamatters.org/research/200907170039

4. "Dobbs 2, CNN 0: CNN president Klein reportedly calls Dobbs' birther coverage 'legitimate'." Media Matters for America, July 25, 2009. http://mediamatters.org/blog/200907250009


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 527groups; afterbirthers; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; dobbs; imom; loudobbs; moveon; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; talkradio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fringe ideas of the so-called "birthers" have been thoroughly debunked.

This is a powerful assertion by a questionable organization. If they would stop calling names and actually take a look at the credibility of the issues and questions in connection with Obama's long-form birth certificate, they would agree with Mr. Dobbs, yes?

Just how has this "birther" question been debunked, thoroughly debunked? Can they untwist their thinking long enough to engage in an intelligent discussion? Or will they continue to shout their version of the truth as being true by fiat?

21 posted on 07/29/2009 6:00:12 PM PDT by olezip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Battle Lines Drawn.

EAGLES UP!

22 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:43 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: 353FMG
I think he is a good journalist.

A good journalist is trained like a shark is set up to detect blood in the water. The minute a lie is being floated a good journalist detects the bullshit and then goes in for the kill, asking even more and more unrelenting questions while trapping the liar and exposing the truth. I think this is what is at work with Lou Dobbs and I think they have bitten off more than they can chew in getting on his case. It is akin to urinating in the wind. I think more and more is going to come out about former Senator Obama and this birth certificate cover up thing.

23 posted on 07/29/2009 6:04:19 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

anytime a libtard says 0bama’s birth certificate has been provided... just ask for the link... and say nothing else. don’t engage. just keep asking for the link.


24 posted on 07/29/2009 6:05:28 PM PDT by sten
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To: sten

and by link, i mean to the long form


25 posted on 07/29/2009 6:05:58 PM PDT by sten
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s birth certificate SCAM and COUP D’ETAT is much bigger than Watergate.

Hey commies, you can’t imagine anything bigger than Watergate?

How about the PRESIDENT, the AMERICAN MEDIA, and the DEMOCRAT PARTY, all conspiring to keep the President’s INeligible status from getting out?

I think that’s a bigger coverup, on a bigger issue, than Nixon and his merry band of thieves covering up a break-in/robbery.

And once 300 million Americans catch onto the Obama Hoax, how about pulling out all the stops to convince them “There’s nothing to see here, move along!”

Where are Woodward and Bernstein now? Why aren’t they digging around or plugging away on their typewriters in courier 12 point or meeting witnesses in parking garages?

Once 0commie is outed as a USURPER, will Robert Redford star in this movie?

There’s a con artist in the Oval Office. He’s spent $1 million covering up SOMETHING.

Stay tuned, Hollywood!


26 posted on 07/29/2009 6:09:28 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Omoslem, show us your original Birth Certificate!!)
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To: mreerm
soros is saying loudly/clearly “this is a threat that must be squashed”. it must be a genuine threat

"Bomber Niner-One to base. Enemy flak is increasing. Approaching target. Over."

27 posted on 07/29/2009 6:14:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Star Traveler

Majority??? And you know this how??? Was a poll taken that I had no clue about asking the majority what they felt about this issue???

I want Doctors name, signatures of witnesses, hospital birthed in, passport he traveled on, documents changing his name, bar exam plastered in the newspaper stating in his own words that he never held any other name - what happened to Barry Soetoro?

Oh yeah, what about his Selective service papers? Oh so much!


28 posted on 07/29/2009 6:18:58 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As Rush Limbaugh says:

“By their reaction, liberals always let you know when you hit a bull’s eye.”


29 posted on 07/29/2009 6:20:03 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Omoslem, show us your original Birth Certificate!!)
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To: Star Traveler
Well, this pretty well cinches it up for the majority of the public...

"...Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen."

"Majority of the public", eh? And what department of the Propaganda Ministry did you get that data from?

Does that statement from the Hawaiian director do it for you? Are you going to accept it as proof positive? Or, would you still like to see the actual evidence?

30 posted on 07/29/2009 6:20:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’ll take the evidence please!

And thank you.....

:)


31 posted on 07/29/2009 6:23:50 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: jcsjcm

You said — Majority??? And you know this how???

LOL..., it’s a good thing they don’t have you running any campaigns... :-)

Oh, and I know what people want, but most of what you mentioned is something that gets worked out through the demands of an election. Once that election is over, there’s no more leverage for getting that stuff. It’s not going to happen.

As for the one particular part that does bear on this topic (the Constitutional requirements), that’s been answered now, and you’re not going to see anyone with any leverage to get the birth certificate since the State of Hawaii made their official announcement saying that Obama was born in Hawaii and that Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

The Constitution says that a candidate must be the following in order to qualify for the office. The candidate must ...

*be* 35 years or older
*be* a resident 14 years or more
*be* a natural born citizen

And Obama has sworn under oath that he *is* (as the Constitution says he must *be*)...

It does not say what is necessary to show it, prove it or what any means for “vetting” is. That’s up to the states themselves to vet and make sure that the candidates meet the qualifications.

And what they have done is sworn an oath that they are qualified..., Obama has, the other candidates have and they have in the past...

And in addition the State of Hawaii says that he *is* exactly what the Constitution says he must *be*...

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‘i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

This shows that there is no Constitutional issue or question...

Outside of those qualifications, all else is a political matter and they can be dealt with in political terms...


32 posted on 07/29/2009 6:25:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>>>The fringe ideas of the so-called “birthers” have been thoroughly debunked<<<
—Debunked how again? Only producing a legit BC can debunk questions if one exists.
33 posted on 07/29/2009 6:26:15 PM PDT by Shqipo (When Conservatives bicker and stay away from the polls, the country dies a little faster.)
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To: Islam=Murder
Where are Woodward and Bernstein now? Why aren’t they digging around or plugging away on their typewriters in courier 12 point or meeting witnesses in parking garages?

Oh, they're out there alright. It's just that the MSM Ministry of Propaganda won't let these types in the door, so they're all writing blogs and posting to FR.

34 posted on 07/29/2009 6:26:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Folks, I gotta be honest. I’m starting to get a bit ashamed of myself for questioning President Obama. He was elected fair and square, and some conservatives are just bitter a man of mixed race is in the White House.

Just kidding.

Omoslem is a low-down dirty piece of Marxist Commie crap, he’s the smoothest community agitator I’ve seen, he’s slicker than Jackson and Sharpton slapped together on a Crisco coated Slip-And-Slide, he’s ripping the USA to shreds, he’s a traitor to his country (IF his country turns out to be America), he bowed to his true leader the Saudi king, he was installed using billions of dollars from Nazi-collaborator George Soros who’s still running cover for Omoslem, and now his Fascist cabal has blown $1 million on lawyer fees to keep the incriminating evidence and documents locked from public view.

More on Omoslem HERE (Sound bites and his mother’s dirty photos):

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2009/02/09/audio-barack-obama-that-guy-aint-shit-and-more-2909/


35 posted on 07/29/2009 6:30:58 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Omoslem, show us your original Birth Certificate!!)
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To: Islam=Murder

he’s slicker than Jackson
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

He’s slicker than snot.


36 posted on 07/29/2009 6:32:11 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Barry, who's your Daddy?

Here's a fun thing to do if you have a few minutes. Do a Google for "Frank Marshall Davis" and "Frank Marshal Davis". He's reportedly Zer0's actual father. When will this stuff stop?

Mommy has some interesting pictures, too.

37 posted on 07/29/2009 6:34:31 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: mreerm
it must be a genuine threat

The louder they scream, the more we need to dig our heels in and simply demand production of the BC. Contrary to that bogus article, nothing has been debunked- the fact is, he is still concealing his personal information from us.
38 posted on 07/29/2009 6:38:43 PM PDT by Canedawg ( "Government cant make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - S. Palin)
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To: Star Traveler

So, what do you get for all of your hard work defending Obama’s “right” to obfuscate and withhold the basic information about his provenance from the American people?

What exactly is your reward for all of your naysaying and undermining of The People’s demands to get at the truth of this?


39 posted on 07/29/2009 6:47:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: al baby

Hey, I think the guy on the right is an old classmate. Happy to see he got his act together.
mc :-)


40 posted on 07/29/2009 6:51:14 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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