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On Birthers, Obama, Muslims, and More (birth certificate is a distraction)
Red State ^ | July 29, 2009 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/29/2009 7:02:37 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

I’ve said for a long time now that the fixation on Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a distraction.

I think Barack Obama is a natural born American citizen because his mother was indisputably an American citizen. I think he meets the residency requirements. And I think that Justice Scalia himself would not throw the President out of office now that he has been sworn in.

The issue is moot.

Fixating on it now is wasting time, precious time, when there are other issues on which those with time on their hands can fixate.

Barack Obama not releasing his birth certificate fits a pattern of non-disclosure from the man.

Most notoriously, Barack Obama allowed is campaign to accept foreign donations, a matter that got passing mention from the Washington Post and not much else.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; imom; mysteryman; obama; obroma
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To: cripplecreek

“I’m a politician’s worst nightmare.”

LOL...I’m right there with you! I call and write those pols all the time....they are beginning to hate me.


101 posted on 07/30/2009 3:45:58 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The issue isn’t so much the birth certificate, but rather the creation of a psychological atmosphere of distrust toward obuma. The more people that have doubts about obuma, the quicker his fascist administration falls.

Keep digging, folks.


102 posted on 07/30/2009 6:53:28 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: ansel12
Clearly, the positive externalities associated with vaccination make a laisse faire solution suboptimal and probably worse than rationing as well.

Probably a COLB similar to the one he posted on the internet. Obviously he did not use that copy, since it was generated in 2007, but I suspect it was one much like it.

103 posted on 07/30/2009 10:51:29 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: rcrngroup
He enrolled in Occidental College under the name of Barry Sotero, the name he used while attending school in Indonesia, and he would be eligible to receive financial aid as foreign national.

And you know this how?

FYI, it's generally a lot easire for US citizens to get financial aid than foreign nationals.

104 posted on 07/30/2009 11:36:45 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: rcrngroup
My understanding is that Hawaii does not accept COLB as valid documentation, but

Your understanding is incorrect.

I think that in any case, whatever the documentation was used for 0bama to get his U.S. passport in 2004 for the first time, was deliberately stolen from the U.S. passport break-in in Spring 2008

Yes, by men flying black helicopters, no doubt./sarcasm

105 posted on 07/30/2009 11:38:29 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: RobbyS
Does the State departure accept a certificate of live birth issued by Hawaii?

The State Department will accept a certificate so long as it bears the registrar's signature, has a raised or colored seal, and the certificate was filed within one year of birth. Obama's COLB meets all of those requirements.

106 posted on 07/30/2009 11:39:56 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: rcrngroup
My understanding is the B Hussein 0bama did not get a U.S. passport until he was elected as U.S. senator in 2004

Where did you get this information?

107 posted on 07/30/2009 11:40:30 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Dear Eric (and anti-bithers),

Do you have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time?

MYOFB,
McGruff

108 posted on 07/30/2009 11:42:48 AM PDT by McGruff (Obama's hiding something to do with his birth certificate. The question is what.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

My goodness, the “anti-birthers” sure do expend a lot of energy trying to convince people that the issue is a distraction. I find that quite distracting.


109 posted on 07/30/2009 11:46:43 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: curiosity

My guess is that LOTS of people have no better proof of birth of being born in Hawaii than Barry does. On the other hand, his mother probably did a lot of stuff that alienated Obama from the United States. Assuming he had a valid claim, did he succeed in establishing that claim before he turned 18?


110 posted on 07/30/2009 1:54:36 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: McGruff

Right. I do not count myself as a “birther,” but the issue is important, because no previous president has had such a tenuous connection with the United States. As for the DNA thing, the relationship between his mother and father was so short that it probably more no more than a marriage of convenience. She was in school in Washington State by the time he was six-weeks old...without hubby.


111 posted on 07/30/2009 2:01:21 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: curiosity

Sources are from the numerous articles posted on this subject in conservative forums, including FR. I’m curious as to why you want to give this imposter usurper socialist-fascist-commie pig any cover at all.


112 posted on 07/30/2009 5:19:34 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup
Sources are from the numerous articles posted on this subject in conservative forums, including FR.

In other words, you have no facts, only rumors an innuendo. Thanks for clearing that up.

I’m curious as to why you want to give this imposter usurper socialist-fascist-commie pig any cover at all.

I am not giving him cover.

I am opposing him vigorously, but I am basing my opposition to our socialist-in-chief on facts, not on nonsensical conspiracy theories made up by tinfoil-hat-wearing truthers.

Furthermore, I believe wacky conspiracy theories undermine my fact-based opposition, so I have an interest debunking them.

113 posted on 07/30/2009 5:27:02 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Maybe you need to read the exhaustive reporting by Joe Farah & WND.com before acting so smug & condescending to those of us who believe that U.S. constitutional requirements for POTUS should be followed & adhered to. The point is, if it is that damn easy & simple to clear up, then why in the world won’t 0bama simply provide his long form birth certificate & clear it up. I believe the reason is simple....he has no U.S. birth certificate because the imposter was born in Kenya. His grandmother & aunt were on a video and affirmed they were at his birth in a Mombassa, Kenya hospital. There are dozens if not hundreds of articles on the subject of 0bama’s constitutional eligibility for POTUS and his murky background. I don’t log every single url for every article I read. So what is your iron clad opposition to 0bama based on, if not current articles & online articles?


114 posted on 07/30/2009 5:38:12 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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