Posted on 07/29/2009 7:25:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
So... If we can't ask about Obama's birth certificate without being dismissed as nutjob, tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists, can we ask a few other questions without being maligned solely through the use of childish name calling, silly syllogism and sorry sophistry?
Ok. So let's forget the birth certificate for a moment and ask Mr. Obama a couple of other questions...or are we still allowed to do that?
* Kindergarten records (not even a kindergarten record?)
* Punahou school records
* Occidental College records
* Columbia University records
* Columbia thesis
* Harvard Law School records
* Harvard Law Review articles
* scholarly articles from the University of Chicago
* passport
* medical records
* files from his years as an Illinois state senator
* Illinois State Bar Association records
* baptism records, if any
* adoption records
All missing or otherwise unavilable.
There is no American birth certificate for Obama. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. A COLB is not an original, legal, birth certificate, nor is an ad in the lifestyle section of a local newspaper considered to be a legal birth certificate. Public statements by politicians and bureacrats are not legal birth certificates. Although such things can be considered as evidence, they are not proof. They are hearsay evidence, only. (In fact, Mr. Obama's sister, Maya Soetoro, has a Hawaiian COLB and she was born in Indonesia.)
The COLB from Hawaii is the same document that journalists and activists from both sides, as well as bureaucrats and politicians across the nation are offering as primary support of assertions that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen of the U.S. If, in fact, he is a legal citizen, it does notnecessarily follow that he is a natural-born citizen. There is a difference. Follow-up question regarding his mother's citizenship status are also valid and do not require a tinfoil hat or a mental illness in order to ask them.
In view of other evidences, in view of his personal and business associations, and in view of Mr. Obama's apparently missing or hidden background and resume, the question about his birth certificate remains valid. In fact, it is the most important question of all.
Assuming there is no legal birth certificate (and at this point in time and in view of the lack of an original birth certificate, it can only be assumed that there isn't one), this means that the Electoral College never verified his eligibility before they voted for him. It means that FEC never verified his eligibility. It means that the DNC never verified his eligibility. It means that the state legislatures and state governors who signed off on the results of the Electoral College never verified his eligibility. It means that the House and Senate never verified his eligibility. 'Eligibility' meaning, in this case, that no one has actually *seen* an original, legal, 'long form' American birth certificate for Mr. Obama.
In all, it means that The Constitution has been effectively nullified either thorough incompetence or by corruption at every step of the political process. It means that American social and political contracts are completely broken down. This is why the question is so important.
The question remains valid. Where is the - original - birth certificate?
Conspiracy theories, tinfoil hats, mental illness and even rascism are not a requirement for asking such questions. In fact, such accusations against innocent Americans who are simply asking questions of their leadership tell us something about American discourse and freedom that should send shivers down your spines.
For the judicial system at all levels to declare that any American citizen has no standing to file a suit requesting to verify any elected official's qualifications says other things about America that should give you pause.
see also: http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
Even 0bambi suspects himself! He re-assures him self in every speech: I'm the President! I was elected President. I was elected to do blah..blah..blah.
He can't believe that he pulled a rabbit out of a hat.
It sure could be because it's should be such a direct attack on Zero's much vaunted 'transparency' that this 'transparency' should be turned into a national joke.
Hey, if I were running for President, I'd take the news crews and cameras down to the County Recorder's Office, order and pay for my (long form) birth certificate, and hold it up for them and all for the world to see.
I want to stick my thumb in the eye of the devil.
If there's one thing that old cops know about criminals, it's that they always leave clues to their crimes. You see, they actually want to be caught (believe it or not). It's the cop's job to help them stop themselves from continuing to injure their neighbors.
Obama has left a trail of clues a mile wide, all during the campaign, and since, but it's only the "Birthers" that are picking up on them.
As you said, one of those easily spotted clues is the fact that he continues to remind everyone that "I won", "I'm the President", ad nauseum. He can't believe that he's gotten away with it, and he spills the beans about his crime in lots of small ways.
No one who's comfortable in their own skin acts the way Obama does. Hell, he's so screwed up over his huge withhold that he can't even ask for extra syrup without reading it off a teleprompter. Now, that's some kind of nervous!
Well written!
I honestly dont think it will sell. In December Rush said personal attacks didnt work on Obama or B Clinton and wont work. He said we must beat Obama on policy and guess what?, health care reform attackes are working: health care. I think those that didnt start out hating Obama wont care if it was true where he was born, “Dont ask dont tell”
heh. The only thing I can even see in the picture are the most evil looking eyes that I have ever seen.
What if Obama really was born in Hawaii but doesn't want to show his long form birth cert. because keeping this issue alive makes conservatives look bad?
When he appeared on CNN for his "impromptu" statement about the Gates affair, he said something about how he could be "shot" for "breaking into the White House" "but this is MY house now." I couldn't believe it. First he makes some statement about being a victim due to his race, THEN loudly reassures himself the place is HIS. Not temporary gov't housing for a public servant, but HIS house.
He has to keep reassuring himself it's true because in his heart of hearts, he knows it's a total lie.
It's like that silly "Office of the President Elect" seal he was using before the Inauguration. He should be using the "Office of the Usurper President" or the "Office of the Make-Believe President" instead; it would be more appropriate.
Well, only God knows for sure, but Obama surely does a great impersonation.
How about the list of other records? Who's gonna look bad if he shows them? No wonder he's called Zero.
The documents may show embarrassing info such as how brilliant he is. I believe he has a negative IQ. Some may show that he's a drug addict, and I don't mean nicotine!
BINGO!
I remember thinking to myself when I first saw that made-up symbol, and the phony title of "Office of The President Elect", that Obama was insecure about his hold on the office, even after he'd won the election. He knew then, that he was in danger of being discovered for the fraud he is.
Unfortunately for him, his nightmare has only just begun. This issue will not go away until the American people get a satisfactory answer out of him, and full revelation about his entire background.
The pressure for him to come clean and open his records will keep growing, like a suffocating cocoon, until he tells the truth, or resigns under pressure.
Maybe his last lie to the people will be, "Sorry, I have to turn in my two weeks notice 'cause I got a better offer." LOL
Psychology says you’re on the mark. As I said somewhere else: a child woke up in the Oval Office and he’s pinching himself ever since.
The worst thing is; he’s acting like it. We have a Child-in-Chief.
Then you may justifiably say that he is a childish game player and the farthest thing from a statesman in US presidential history for not resolving this issue expeditiously.
There is no doubt that 0bama either has something he feels he needs to hide regarding his citizenship status or else is behaving at the emotional level of a petulant grade schooler on the matter for some pretty obvious reasons which I would hope I shouldn't have to explain at least in this forum.
Someone had posted on another thread about how two other Presidents, Gerald R. Ford (nee Leslie King) or William J. Clinton (nee William Jefferson Blythe) were quite candid about their name changes, adoptions, and early lives. We take so much for granted from our truly American Presidents. We expect to see them, warts and all.
The pressure for him to come clean and open his records will keep growing, like a suffocating cocoon, until he tells the truth, or resigns under pressure.
I believe truly that BO is tearing himself to pieces inside with the lies he tells. One day he will crack.
Night reader, in light of our recent exchange, I thought that you may be interested in this.
My mom sent me a link from Hot Air on the subject of the bible and the anti christ. I really wish she hadn’t, I already have enough trouble sleeping.
It’s interesting to say the least, but I have no idea if this is true or accurate.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/29/video-hey-did-the-bible-give-us-the-name-of-the-antichrist/
I have thought that his name resembles “The Buraq”, which is the beast that flew the prophet muhammed from mecca to jerusalem.
I also believe that Islam is the religion of satan, and that the Qur’an is his bible.
Then you may justifiably say that he is a childish game player and the farthest thing from a statesman in US presidential history for not resolving this issue expeditiously.
I think if BO had been withholding his BC as a sort of taunt to make conservatives look bad/crazy, the deadline for that to have made any sense at all passed long ago. We're well into crazy land here.
Not as bad as 0bama looks - where is that much touted transparency Lefties support him for? His birth status is proof 0bama can't answer even the simplest question honestly, now can he?
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