Posted on 07/30/2009 3:34:15 AM PDT by Man50D
this is what we have to look forward to? this crap?
“Thank you. I am sitting here trying to remember if I have ever read a more heart-stopping post...
God help us.”
This is so scary. G-d willing all of us reading this thread will be elders one day......This has to be stopped!
Young lefties can’t think beyond this afternoon....we all age; they obviously didn’t think in terms of themselves in the future.
This will be ALL of us someday.
Please G-d make the insanity stop! Our health care system may not be perfect but it is the BEST IN THE WORLD! It is not a broken sytem.
Zero et al , stop it....just stop it!
Then contact all of your reps and exercise a politcal free fire zone over this monstrosity.
Here are some of the things I have found so far.
Section 113 b-1 Page 22: Mandates an audit of all employers that self-insure to "ensure that the law does not provide incentives for small and mid-size employers to self-insure".
Section 123 Page 30: A government Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend what treatments and benefits are available. Once accepted and adopted by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, there is no appeal.
Section 141 & 142 Page 42: Establish a "Health Choices Commissioner" appointed by the Prresident who will establish qualified plan standards for the insured, establish a "Health INsurance Exchange", will administer "Health Insurance Credits" and determin who is eligible, will ensure compliance, conduct audits, administer penalites and remedies.
Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document as is understood to include immigration status.
Section 1173A a-2-D Page 58: Calls for a National Health Plan Beneficiary Identification Card for every person and the ability to determine a persons indivual financial responsibility and eligibility prior to, or at the time of service.
Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds tranfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconcilliation of health care payment.
Section 164 Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize a retiree reinsurance health fund up to 10 billion dollars to assist participating employment-based plans (unions, community organizers, etc.) with the cost of providing health benefits to retirees and to eligible spouses, surviving spouses and dependents of such retirees
Section 294 b-7 Page 91: Government mandates culturally and linguistically appropriate communication and health services for all.
Section 205 a-1 Page 95-96: The Government will etsablish an outreach program to inform, educate, and enroll participants, directed at "vulnerable" populations and to be accomplished in person at "community locations", by mail, telephone, or electronically. Tailor made for ACORN and Americorps.
Section 205 C-3-3 Page 102: If you do not enroll in a "National Health Exchange Plan" and are eligible for Medicaid, you will automatically be enrolled in Medicaid. You have no choice in the matter.
Section 223 f Page 124: There will be no administrative or "judicial review" permitted for payment rates established under the National Health Care Plans.
Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).
Section 312 a-4, c-2 Page 145-148: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into a government approved plan, either the public plan or another plan, unless an employee makes an affiormative decision to opt out.
Seaction 312 b-3 Page 146-147: Employers MUST pay pro-rated healthcare contribution for part-time employees AND their families.
Section 313 b-1 Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll, $350+-400K it is 6%, for over $300+-350K it is 4%, for $250+- 300K it is 2%.
Title IV Amendment to IRS COde Imposes a 2.5% income tax penalty to those individuals opting out, not to exceed what would be the National Average Premium, determined by the Secretary of Health and Welfare.
Section 1233 E & F Page 426-433 Establishes mandatory end-of-life counseling for senior citizens over age 65 every five years, or sooner if bebeficiary becomes ill.
Section 1302 a Page 460-482: Establishes a "Medical Home Pilot Program" for the elderly or "targeted high need beneficiaries" in urban, rural, and served areas. No physician nned be on duty, run by nurse paractitioners and physician assistants. Care for beneficiaries coordinated by a team of individuals at the practice level using "evidence based guidelines" which advocate only the use of medical treatments that are supported by effectiveness research.
Over The Hill To The Poor House
1. Oh how can it be they have driven
Their father so helpless and old
Oh God may their crimes be forgiven
To perish out here in the cold
Chorus:
I’m old I’m helpless and feeble
And the days of my youth have gone by
And it’s over the hill to the poor house
I must wander alone there to die
2. Long years since Mary was taken
My faithful affectionate wife
Since then I’ve been alone and forsaken
The light has died out of my life
Chorus:
3. I gave them the house they were born in
A deed to the farm and more
I gave them the place that they lived on
And now I am turned from its door
4. Oh me on the doorstep up yonder
I’ve set with my babe’s on my knee
No father so happy or fonder
Than I of my little ones three
A slain Rat a day, keeps Obamacare away
Then contact all of your reps and exercise a politcal free fire zone over this monstrosity.
Here are some of the things I have found so far.
Section 113 b-1 Page 22: Mandates an audit of all employers that self-insure to "ensure that the law does not provide incentives for small and mid-size employers to self-insure".
Section 123 Page 30: A government Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend what treatments and benefits are available. Once accepted and adopted by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, there is no appeal.
Section 141 & 142 Page 42: Establish a "Health Choices Commissioner" appointed by the Prresident who will establish qualified plan standards for the insured, establish a "Health INsurance Exchange", will administer "Health Insurance Credits" and determin who is eligible, will ensure compliance, conduct audits, administer penalites and remedies.
Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document as is understood to include immigration status.
Section 1173A a-2-D Page 58: Calls for a National Health Plan Beneficiary Identification Card for every person and the ability to determine a persons indivual financial responsibility and eligibility prior to, or at the time of service.
Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds tranfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconcilliation of health care payment.
Section 164 Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize a retiree reinsurance health fund up to 10 billion dollars to assist participating employment-based plans (unions, community organizers, etc.) with the cost of providing health benefits to retirees and to eligible spouses, surviving spouses and dependents of such retirees
Section 294 b-7 Page 91: Government mandates culturally and linguistically appropriate communication and health services for all.
Section 205 a-1 Page 95-96: The Government will etsablish an outreach program to inform, educate, and enroll participants, directed at "vulnerable" populations and to be accomplished in person at "community locations", by mail, telephone, or electronically. Tailor made for ACORN and Americorps.
Section 205 C-3-3 Page 102: If you do not enroll in a "National Health Exchange Plan" and are eligible for Medicaid, you will automatically be enrolled in Medicaid. You have no choice in the matter.
Section 223 f Page 124: There will be no administrative or "judicial review" permitted for payment rates established under the National Health Care Plans.
Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).
Section 312 a-4, c-2 Page 145-148: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into a government approved plan, either the public plan or another plan, unless an employee makes an affiormative decision to opt out.
Seaction 312 b-3 Page 146-147: Employers MUST pay pro-rated healthcare contribution for part-time employees AND their families.
Section 313 b-1 Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll, $350+-400K it is 6%, for over $300+-350K it is 4%, for $250+- 300K it is 2%.
Title IV Amendment to IRS COde Imposes a 2.5% income tax penalty to those individuals opting out, not to exceed what would be the National Average Premium, determined by the Secretary of Health and Welfare.
Section 1233 E & F Page 426-433 Establishes mandatory end-of-life counseling for senior citizens over age 65 every five years, or sooner if bebeficiary becomes ill.
Section 1302 a Page 460-482: Establishes a "Medical Home Pilot Program" for the elderly or "targeted high need beneficiaries" in urban, rural, and served areas. No physician nned be on duty, run by nurse paractitioners and physician assistants. Care for beneficiaries coordinated by a team of individuals at the practice level using "evidence based guidelines" which advocate only the use of medical treatments that are supported by effectiveness research.
more than that, this is what was able to be dug out, seniors are useless to the "progressive" movement...Soylent Green all over again........ with a twist
We already have such places and they are pretty effective in care for helpless elderly people.
There is a stage between the hospital and the hospice or grave that requires maintenance attention but little or no hope for recovery. It can last days or weeks or even years.
Such places are extremely depressing and are populated mostly by elderly women who are completely helpless but are alive. In my experience, they get care that is simply not possible were it not for such a facility
Childless Liberals hit hardest.
Soylent Green IS PEOPLE!
This is insane.
PING
Translation - these will be death camps in which the elderly and disabled will be prepared for becoming the next dose of Soylent Green.
However, there's a nugget of a decent idea in this....90% of (for instance) elder care, doesn't need to have a doc holding everyone's hand. A PA or nurse can handle it, easily.
Same with scratchy throats and runny noses. Kid doesn't need a trip to the ER, just needs someone that knows what they're doing to look in their ears and prescribe an antibiotic.
That's the thing I hate the most about the current healthcare bill. 98% is utter crap. 2% of it might actually do some good. But....rather than "tweaking" the HealthCare system with the good 2%....we need to swallow the whole damned thing. Stupid.
No it’s not insane....IT IS PURE EVIL. If people would do a cursory search of Nazi medical policies ...they should be OUTRAGED.
...see my post #54
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