The Social Conservatism of Soviet Marxism

Pravda ^ | August 4 | Stanislav Mishin

[Bushwacker777]

"On the topic of marraige, population control and families. The Soviets were very much so family oriented. They spent large sums of money ideolizing the childhood and promoting large families. Stalin, though a murderous bastard indeed, even banned abortions. Abortion was legalized later and used as birth control, but only because the defunct Soviet economy could not produce things such as condoms. Regardless, abortions were never promoted or pushed. Indeed, the award of the Hero Mother was given to women with many children and they were lionized as the saviors of Soviet society. This is of course not to say that women did not work, they did and a lot worked in the heaviest industry, but none the less, the mother was always placed high.

Family was put on a pedestal and children taught to honor their parents. Abandonment of the old in nursing homes was almost unheard of."

[Bushwacker777]

This may explain why Vladimir Putin is more a Republican than George Bush ever was.

[sr4402]

China's forced policy has come back to bite them. America's is doing a similar thing. “Thou shalt not Murder” when ignored, always comes back to bite. Unusually with a vengeance.

[Migraine]

No wonder Stalin outlawed abortions: he was too busy killing off the grownups, not to mention all the starvation that was aborting people by the millions.

[Calm_Cool_and_Elected]

ping

[Albion Wilde]

Attempts to draw a parallel between Soviet pro-family policies and present-day pro-life movements are completely bogus. There was not widespread birth control in the Soviet days, nor was out-of-wedlock motherhood commonly accepted then; so the Reds used pro-marriage, pro-natalist policies to swell the ranks of Communists.

Today, socialist/fascist governments in the West use illegal immigration to accomplish the same goal. In Europe, several countries extend welfare benefits not only to muslim immigrant families, but also to the multiple wives and their children of muslim males. Here in the post-birth-control U.S., we no longer care if people breed without marriage or preparation for supporting children -- everybody gets some kind of government handout.

[TomOnTheRun]

I've studied the playgrounds and puppet theatres for children that the soviets built. I'm always eagre for new pictures. There were some nightmare pieces but, for the most part, they lavished money, care, and time on building them. In many cases, the very best sculptors and painters they had on hand were found to decorate these buildings and toys. They obviously cherished children.

Homosexuality was forbidden as "counter revolutionary" since it was seen as a habit of decadent capitalists and aristocrats. It was "treated" with ECT right up until the end and for a little bit after.

[Cicero]

Well, yes and no.

Stalin did encourage large families, at times when he wanted more workers and more troops. But Communism also insisted that religion was the opiate of the masses and that conventional morality was dead. Marriage was a bourgeouis institution, faithfulness was a foolish dream of the past, relegated to the dust bin of history.

Stalin also suggested that children should rat to the Secret Police on their parents, husbands should rat on their wives, and wives should rat on their husbands, because loyalty to the state superseded all other loyalties.

So, let’s not get too starry eyed about the virtues of Stalinist ideology.

[libh8er]

Abortion was legalized later and used as birth control, but only because the defunct Soviet economy could not produce things such as condoms.

Why didn't they ban sex ?

[Tonytitan]

...husbands should rat on their wives, and wives should rat on their husbands...

I have read where Soviet pediatricians probed young children about parental conversations regarding how they view the government, turning the children into "rats". I expect this dynamic to evolve out of Obama's takeover of healthcare.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I’ve always wondered if the American Left is even the same ideology as that espoused by Todor Zhivkov. Somehow I think Communist Bulgaria was much more sane than Communist America will be.

[a fool in paradise]

Pravda means truth.

[a fool in paradise]

The Soviets sought to undermine our system. And then they blame us when we became “degenerate”.

Stuff it Commies.

[a fool in paradise]

There are links between Socialism and the Sex Positive agenda. Sell hedonism to the masses (sex is a birthright to be enjoyed by everyone at every age without moral judgement) and you don’t even need to give them a television.

[a fool in paradise]

This has already happened in America. The CDC considers “guns” a disease and has encouraged doctors to ask kids if their parents have guns at home.

Parents should always be in the room while the doctor checks out the kid.

[armymarinedad]

Marxist/fascists claim their authority from the "will of the people". Radical Islamics claim their authority from the "will of God". Our founders were classical liberals who derived their authority as servants of the individual. A far cry from today's liberals and conservatives. Today's liberals and conservatives generally fall under the first category.

[libh8er]

.. and all those who oppose are "regressives" who want to take society back to the middle ages, unless - you get out the vote on election day and support the socialist agenda !

[a fool in paradise]

It’s the Islamists who prefer to take society back to the Middle Ages.