Posted on 08/04/2009 8:37:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, was registered for college classes in Seattle only 15 days after reportedly delivering her first-born child in Honolulu, according to school records obtained by WND.
How Dunham was able to travel the 2,680 air miles from Honolulu to Seattle only a few days after the birth of her baby – at a time when trans-Pacific travel likely was at a speed half of today's jets – is not disclosed in the currently available public record concerning President Obama's birth.
Nor is there anything on the public record to explain how Dunham managed to find an apartment and relocate with her infant son so she could begin taking university classes within 15 days of the baby's birth.
There is also nothing on the public record to suggest Madelyn Dunham, Ann Dunham's mother, or any other family member preceded or accompanied Dunham to Seattle in August 1961 to help the new mother and infant son find appropriate living arrangements and complete the university's enrollment process prior to beginning classes.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
All that and a virgin birth too, the woman was just amazing what else can you say?
I’d say it would be much easier getting there from Hawaii than it would be from Kenya.
Well, isn’t that interesting!
The jet statement is incorrect United had been flying in and out of the islands using DC8s since 59. The DC8 was a very hot airliner capable of sustained 500 plus mph.
Back then, how old did a newborn have to be before boarding a trans-pacific jet or cruiseliner? Say 7 days? And wouldn’t you need a doctor signing off that mother and baby were fit to travel?
“How Dunham was able to travel the 2,680 air miles from Honolulu to Seattle only a few days after the birth of her baby – at a time when trans-Pacific travel likely was at a speed half of today’s jets”
Corsi you idiot. The Boeing 707 was in production since 1958. Even a prop plane could make it from Hawaii to Seattle.
I met Stanley once. Tough, rugged looking woman.
Disbelieve what she seems to have done here at your own risk.
Where are we going to build the monument for Obama’s birthplace?
Can you imagine being the guy that has to set up the monument, calling the White House, asking for guidance?
I imagine it would go something like this:
“Good afternoon, the White House. How can I help you?”
“Hello, this is the Acme Monument Company. We have the birthplace monument ordered for the President. Where do we deliver this and set this up?”
“Just a moment, please.”
“Hello, Mr. Acme....”
“Err, no, I’m not Mr. Acme. This is Joe. I’m the plumber. I make sure the monuments are plumb.”
“Oh, Ok, Joe the Plumber. Please hold—I am checking for you.”
“Lady, I ain’t got all day—where do you want this thing?”
“Joe, I have an answer for you!”
“Well, what is it?. C’mon—I got a crew of day laborers here from Home Depot and it’s almost siesta time.”
“Well, Joe, the President’s office says that the location for the monument has been, err, ahh, sealed.”
“Hey, lady, sealed, smealed. I need a location to drop this thing. Do you know how embarrassing it is to drive around with a pair of big stone ears on your flatbed truck?”
“Joe, it’s a matter of national security. The location is sealed.”
“No problem, lady. Tell Mr. Obama to look out his window. I’m dropping it off next to the cheesy plastic patio table where he drinks his beer. Thanks for nuttin’.”
That was back in the day when doctors kept women on bedrest post partum. These days, docs get women up & moving asap.
Maybe the baby was born in Vancouver.
Their site says "Caring for Hawaii's women and children for more than 100 years."
Obama was born in 1961 not 1861 so why can't this hospital simply release its records for Aug. 4, 1961?
No birth certificate, no privacy invasion.. just a list of babies born that day. Who could object to that?
Wot?
No one in Hawaii knew how to write back then? You're kidding? Aren't you? Oh.. you mean the ones who worked at the hospital.
Oh well. I tried.
I’m sorry, but this one looks like a stretch.
A couple years ago I was on the Island of Kauai with a serious medical problem.
While in their hospital for two days, they removed 86 pounds of water from my body. It was tough, but I then endured the 5 1/2 hour flight to Seattle and another 4 hour drive to my house.
If she was driven, I don’t see this as a problem, even back then.
I have wondered about that.
That’s a good timeline to think about when guessing about Obamas birth. Within a week of enrolling at University, Stanley gets prego by an African. Within 2 weeks of giving birth, she leaves him and travels great distances by herself as a teenage single mom with a mixed race child.
Seems like the “Born in Canada” theory fits better than Hawaii, or Kenya in light of that timeline.
Very interesting. It shows that Obama lied in his book and it shows a timeline and circumstance that is hard to believe.
This was on a blog last year tho’ not fleshed out like this. The suggestion was made that Stanley Ann actually was living in Seattle and went up to Canada to give birth (don’t remember the reason given for why she would want to do this.)
As others have said; a 707 travels about the same speed as any jet today.
Yeah, Vancouver sounds likely, but how many women deliver their first baby and immediately want to start taking classes?
Unless you have a couple Super-Nannies lined out well in advance.
Did her banker mom spend every dime she had on airfare, childcare, tuition, books, room, board within a couple weeks?
Yup, yer right. The guy’s got a PHD, don’t cha’ know?
Eventually in the middle of obamaland they will just construct a large TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN ADDRESS.
WND is grasping at straws that aren’t there. It is perfectly reasonable to relocate from Hawaii in 15 days, particularly if you may have done some pre-planning. As someone else pointed out - jets to and from Hawaii were in service back then - but even an old DC-7B could have made it in less than a full day.
There is no evidence that pre-planning wasn’t or was done.
As Rumsfeld used to say, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”!
I think we can accept that these movements were physically possible, and that it was a mistake to raise the issue of aeronautic technology.
But when did she arrive in Hawaii? What is the official timeline? Did she arrive there from Kenya, give birth, then leave for the “states” in a matter of days? The whole thing is hard to picture.
Wonder who took care of the baby while she was in school?
I suggest "the monument" consist of few artifacts super glued into a red Radio Flyer coaster wagon. That way, it can easily be relocated as changing conditions and the evolving narrative warrant.
Doesn't seem to make sense that they'd leave Hawaii for Kenya just for the birth after which she'd have had to turn around and go to Seattle.
Interesting that she apparently left BO SR....maybe this is part of the reason for zero's rage at white people...and this isn't the story zero (ayers) told in the book. Hmmmm.
I'll go back to my original idea...there's something on the BC that zero doesn't want us to see.
I think the point of the story is that it’s extremely odd that a teenager with a newborn decides to go to school thousands of miles away from her new husband and family/support system.
Think about the logistics of attending classes, caring for a newborn, etc.
Weird, weird, weird.
wouldn’t the airplane companies have records, even if stored in boxes, of their passengers?
Maybe she was uncomfortable during the flight.
I don’t think so!
What’s all the excitement about? This is no newsflash.
Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs covered this story many many months ago.
Sounds like she wanted to get away, bad. This is VERY odd.
1. Recover in the hospital in Hawaii.
2. Buy clothes, diapers supplies etc for herself and her child.
3. Schedule a flight, make reservations and take a 2,680 mile flight from Hawaii to Seattle.
4. Arrange for transportation from the airport and find a place to stay in Seattle.
5. Go apartment hunting and find an apartment she can afford in Seattle.
6. Buy things necessary for apartment living.
7. Arrange for someone to take care of her son.
8. Register for classes at the University of Washington.
9. Buy books, supplies etc and get ready for class.
10. Arrange to pay for everything.
11. Care for the almost constant needs of a one to two week old child.
12. Arrange for a pediatrician for her son.
13. Arrange for a doctor for herself.
Stanley who was 18 years old at the time, had never lived away from her mother and had no knowledge or experience in child care or living on her own would have to have done all these things and others in two weeks. I don't believe it.
Also the 707 in 59. BTW, The DC-8 went supersonic in testing. Only 'subsonic' airliner to break sound barrier.
Of course, if it was hard for her to get from Hawaii to register in Seattle, think about how much harder it would have been for her to get to Seattle from Kenya.
I guess the new argument is that he wasn’t born on his birth date?
Fortunately (or unfortunately for conspirists), it is not at all unusual for women who are pregnant to register for classes, even if those classes start at some time near their due dates.
One more thought - I knew some students that wouldn’t even bother to show up for the first week or two of classes. It wasn’t many, but there was always about 5% in each class that you’d see for the first time 2 or more weeks after the course started. Some may have just been waiting to get into a full class, but some were enrolled from the beginning and just decided to start showing up around week 2-3.
It was more noticeable in small classes with under 30, but if she was in intro classes with 50-100+ students, this would be very easy for her to get away with without the professor even knowing for weeks on end.
It would be even easier from Vancouver!
She had plenty of help. Barack handled everything! Bought the tickets, arranged for mom to get special care, flew the plane. He was extraordinary even as a newborn.
Somebody check my math.
If her daughter turned 50 in 2009, her daughter was born in 1959. If you use June, 1959 as the birth month, eighteen months is early 1961, not 1962. She's off by a year when she brings her daughter into the mix.
When Toutingi saya Obama was seven months old, then it would be the spring of 1962. She muddied the waters when she brought her daughter into the picture.
What I did NOT see was a transcript of Dunham's for the fall, 1961 semester that says she completed these classes. The transcript shown is from the spring of 1962.
I recall that a friend of Obama's babymommy in Seattle had a visit from her when Obambi was about three weeks old, and that she had to teach Dunham the proper way to affix a diaper.
There wasn't widespread daycare then, nor were any close relatives around in Seattle--so who watched the infant Obama while Dunham went to classes in the fall of 1961 in Seattle?
Thinking of the family dynamics, Grandma Madeline probably had a ball of fire on her hands with Miss Stanley Ann, who was very headstrong. We see in the summer of 1961, Stanley Ann has managed to "marry" a black man from Kenya with no means of support and is eight months pregnant and due to start school in August for the fall, 1961 term.
It seems more probable that Madeline may have instructed Ann, since the validity of her marriage to Obama may have been in doubt when it surfaced that Obama Sr. had another wife in Kenyan according to village custom, to go across the border into Canada, give birth, and give the baby up for adoption.
Stanley Ann probably disobeyed Madeline, gave birth and came back to Seattle. Madeline, realizing her rebellious daughter has screwed up royally once again, sends in the birth announcement and registers Obama Jr. in Hawaii so he can at least be an American citizen.
If he was born in Canada to a father who was a British subject, then he was not only not natural born, he had dual citizenship at birth.
What is amazing is that we can tour the country and visit the birthplaces of American Presidents with no problem--until we get to the closet Muslim now in the White House. It is a national embarassment that no one can even instruct the National Park Service where to create the marker for the birthplace.
Those earlier ones look to be correspondence classes. Perhaps these courses were taken via mail?
It looks like the date she was registered to start classes at the university was in March 1962.
That’s what I make of it. Could be wrong.
Likely the DOB is just another lie. The baby could have been born in July somewhere other than Hawaii and registered in Hawaii in August while visiting her parents. I would also guess that BHO Sr. left his bride when he saw that the baby looked more like Frank Davis than himself.
I thought the conspiracy was that she had lived in Kenya.
It IS weird.
I mean, certainly the baby would need to see a pediatrician once he got to Seattle, within a month of birth.... followups, and of course Stanley would need the episiotomy stitches removed.... and I suppose the staff would want to see hospital records from where she birthed in Hawaii...
Seems like a LOT of strain to put yourself under right after giving birth for the first time.
In her teens, alone, first pregnancy—and this was not a time where you had your baby and have to leave the hospital the first day. What about doctors for the baby? This is crazy—and 1961.
“I guess the new argument is that he wasn’t born on his birth date? Fortunately (or unfortunately for conspirists), it is not at all unusual for women who are pregnant to register for classes, even if those classes start at some time near their due dates.”
Well it shows that Obama lied about his parents living together in Hawaii until Obama Sr. left for Cambridge. It also supports the fact that Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. never lived at the address listed in the birth announcement.
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