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Poll: Use of atomic bombs in WWII OK (Most Americans support use of nukes in Hiroshima)
Washington Times ^ | 8/5/2009 | John Christoffersen

Posted on 08/05/2009 9:21:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

NEW HAVEN, Conn. | A majority of Americans surveyed think dropping atomic bombs on Japan during World War II was the right thing to do, but support was weaker among Democrats, women, younger voters and minority voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll.

The poll, released Tuesday, found 61 percent of more than 2,400 American voters questioned think the U.S. did the right thing; 22 percent called it wrong, 16 percent were undecided.

The first bomb was dropped Aug. 6, 1945, on Hiroshima. An estimated 140,000 people were killed instantly or died within a few months. Tens of thousands more died from radiation poisoning in years following.

Three days later, another bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, killing about 80,000 people. Japan surrendered less than a week later.

"Sixty-four years after the dawn of the atomic age, one in five Americans think President Harry Truman made a mistake dropping the bomb," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

The poll asked a single question: "Do you think the United States did the right thing or the wrong thing by dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?"

Among voters over 55 years of age, 73 percent of those surveyed approved the decision, while 13 percent opposed. Sixty percent of voters 35 to 54 approved, while 50 percent approved among voters 18 to 34 years old, according to the poll.

"Voters who remember the horrors of World War II overwhelmingly support Truman's decision," Mr. Brown said. "Support drops with age, from the generation that grew up with the nuclear fear of the Cold War to the youngest voters, who know less about WW II or the Cold War."

Only 34 percent of black voters and 44 percent of Hispanic voters approved the decision, according to the poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anniversary; hiroshima; nagasaki; nuclearweapons; wwii
Well what do you know : If you're black or hispanic, you tend not to support the use of Atomic Weapons in Japan.

Same is true if you're younger.

1 posted on 08/05/2009 9:21:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
support was weaker among Democrats, women, younger voters and minority voters

In other words, support was weaker among people who self identify as victims....

2 posted on 08/05/2009 9:22:55 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: SeekAndFind

Hell, I’d support dropping a nuke on Mecca.


3 posted on 08/05/2009 9:26:32 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The last time I checked, Japan executed a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, not America on Japan.


4 posted on 08/05/2009 9:28:16 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: SeekAndFind

I support peace through strength.. middle east needs a few glorious nukes floating above them like searing suns.


5 posted on 08/05/2009 9:28:48 PM PDT by Ancient Drive ("an appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last.")
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To: This Just In

I know.. I’m like hey they attacked us in a cowardly way! they had it coming.


6 posted on 08/05/2009 9:29:36 PM PDT by Ancient Drive ("an appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last.")
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To: SeekAndFind; All
"Total nuclear disarmament", Obama, Russia and the commie left
various sources

Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 12:51:21 PM ET by ETL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2285983/posts

7 posted on 08/05/2009 9:29:47 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: SoldierDad

same here and another 2 or 10 of ‘em if the first one didn’t get their damn attention....


8 posted on 08/05/2009 9:30:55 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223

One a week until they surrender world wide.


9 posted on 08/05/2009 9:33:05 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The very premise of even having a poll about this is idiotic.


10 posted on 08/05/2009 9:34:42 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: SeekAndFind

We should of then used them on the Russians


11 posted on 08/05/2009 9:34:44 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well what do ya know?

61% of 2400 people agree that dropping the "Bomb" on Japan during WWII was the right thing for America.

I'm surprised and somewhat heartened by this pole, because it seems that the bulk of Americans have not become as stupid as I had supposed!

12 posted on 08/05/2009 9:36:40 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I remember immediately following the war -- I still have the newspaper from the day the war ended.

Why is so hard for some to understand what it was like?

Some Americans today would say, "Let's continue the war another few years and lose a few hundred thousand more troops.. we can spare both."

Wot? They identify with the "victims?" Oh.. that's right our Dear Leader frets about how the Japanese Imperial government was humiliated by the unconditional surrender. He ain't going to let America get away with anything like that again! Screw our guys in Afghanistan.

13 posted on 08/05/2009 9:38:37 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for this link.

The article likely confirms what professionals in the field know or suspect about how the United States is losing its character.

The affirmative response to this question asked in 1946 of people 18 and older would have been in the high 90’s.
In some cases, the pollsters would have been picking themselves up off the floor after they asked the question.


14 posted on 08/05/2009 9:38:52 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: SoldierDad

One only needs to research the Japanese policy of “ketsu go” and you’ll know why the bombs were dropped.

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/arens/chap4.htm

The Japanese were gonna fight to the bitter end. Even in the end, when the Emperor was going to a radio station to broadcast the surrender, jr officers tried to stage a coup to stop him.

Hiroshima was bombed because it contained the HQ of the Japanese 2nd General Army (ground zero was their parade grounds). In the event of an allied invasion of southern Japan, 2nd General Army HQ would coordinate all Imperial army operations in that region.

Also, the city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops. It was one of several Japanese cities left deliberately untouched by American bombing, allowing a pristine environment to measure the damage caused by the atomic bomb.


15 posted on 08/05/2009 9:39:08 PM PDT by ak267
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm 23 years old and I support the past use of nuclear weapons.


16 posted on 08/05/2009 9:39:31 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: wastedyears

It was either submission from the Japanese or invasion from our Armies. Invasion would have been much worse.


17 posted on 08/05/2009 9:42:35 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: SeekAndFind
Three days later, another bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, killing about 80,000 people. Japan surrendered less than a week later.

Sad as it was, it happened at a time when we knew how to win wars and had the will to do so. It has not been that way since. Being surgical to avoid collateral damage is great, but often leads to quagmires.

18 posted on 08/05/2009 9:46:03 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You would probably have a lot more agree if they watched this program called “The Rape of Nanking”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoW2WYdOsvg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqH47MIpuoA

The Japs were maybe the most brutal and inhumane folks in history.


19 posted on 08/05/2009 9:46:46 PM PDT by boycott
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s really depressing when you try to talk to Japanese people about it. They talk about how horrible it was but can’t figure out why we’re ticked off about Pearl Harbor.

From what I’ve read, in WW2 their political factions were split between hawks and doves. As the war started to go badly, the hawks became more and more desperate to stay in control. I’ve met people like that, they screw something up and act like rabid dogs when someone tries to keep them from making things worse. The nuclear bomb was a great political tool for the doves to finally shove the hawks out of the way and surrender before we invaded.

If you’ve ever read anything about the Japan invasion plans, you’d realize that a nuclear attack is a pretty nice alternative to the devastation we planned for a conventional invasion.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 9:48:42 PM PDT by RogerAdams
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To: SeekAndFind

Well what do you know : If you’re black or hispanic, you tend not to support the use of Atomic Weapons in Japan.


They obviously haven’t done much to educate themselves. They clearly have a poor understanding of the situation and of history.


21 posted on 08/05/2009 9:50:15 PM PDT by boycott
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To: sonofstrangelove

NO NO NO,,Not on Russia! Thats *the very last* wild population of smokin’ hot women on earth, that hasn’t been exposed to the feminazi virus!


22 posted on 08/05/2009 9:53:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It will be a sad day in America when right and wrong are decided by a public opinion poll.


23 posted on 08/05/2009 9:57:22 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: DesertRhino

And the former satellites.


24 posted on 08/05/2009 9:59:02 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: freebilly

>support was weaker among Democrats, women, younger voters and minority voters
In other words, support was weaker among people who self identify as victims....<

Freeb, you hit it right on the head.


25 posted on 08/05/2009 10:00:11 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Rastus

Ahhhh yes,,, the satellites. Im going to my happy place now.


26 posted on 08/05/2009 10:02:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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Thank God for the bomb. I shudder to think what the world would have been like without it keeping the tyrannical regimes of the world at bay. The bomb has done more for peace then all the pacifists of the world. And the smarter of them will admit it.

27 posted on 08/05/2009 10:04:32 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: DesertRhino

Hungary. The Ukraine. What’s the deal? Is it the water? Fallout from Chernobyl? If these be mutants, let’s nuke our women, too. ;-D


28 posted on 08/05/2009 10:07:05 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: SeekAndFind

And if we hadn’t have dropped the bomb...twice...the death toll probably would have been much much larger. I’m just thankful the Japanese didn’t call our bluff on a third bomb. If I remember correctly it wasn’t finished yet.


29 posted on 08/05/2009 10:07:48 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: Hillarys nightmare
...while 50 percent approved among voters 18 to 34 years old, according to the poll...Only 34 percent of black voters and 44 percent of Hispanic voters approved the decision, according to the poll

You may be heartened by the poll, but I think it stinks. Only 50% of the 18-34 years old approve, which means that they have been indoctrinated by our Leftist education system that distorts the history of this country.

And the fact that support among blacks and Hispanics is so low is a harbinger of our nation's future. By 2023 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities and by 2042 half of the country will be minorities. Is it any wonder why Obama goes around the world apologizing for America?

30 posted on 08/05/2009 10:10:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Rastus

Think we could work out a trade? Like in Baseball? We could somehow make em think they are getting a good deal, by the time they realized how bad they messed up, it’d be too late.


31 posted on 08/05/2009 10:10:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We were close to winning, so we could have just invaded the island and given hundred of thousands of Colombian neckties to the populace.


32 posted on 08/05/2009 10:11:09 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: kabar

You know, election of Obama is nothing more than the simple reality that a lot of Americans hate the tarditional USA.


33 posted on 08/05/2009 10:18:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: All

Rush - Manhattan Project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7RaDUn7W84

Imagine a time
When it all began in the dying days of a war
A weapon — that would settle the score
Whoever found it first
Would be sure to do their worst —
They always had before...

Imagine a man
Where it all began a scientist pacing the floor
In each nation — always eager to explore
To build the best big stick
To turn the winning trick —
But this was something more...

The big bang — took and shook the world
Shot down the rising sun
The end was begun — it would hit everyone
When the chain reaction was done
The big shots — try to hold it back
Fools try to wish it away
The hopeful depend on a world without end
Whatever the hopeless may say

Imagine a place
Where it all began
They gathered from across the land
To work in the secrecy of the desert sand
All of the brightest boys
To play with the biggest toys —
More than they bargained for...

Imagine a man
When it all began
The pilot of enola gay
Flying out of the shockwave
On that august day
All the powers that be
And the course of history
Would be changed for evermore...


34 posted on 08/05/2009 10:19:51 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: kabar
You may be heartened by the poll, but I think it stinks. Only 50% of the 18-34 years old approve, which means that they have been indoctrinated by our Leftist education system that distorts the history of this country.

Interestingly, back in 1945, conservatives were more likely to condemn the dropping of the bomb than the New Dealers who wanted to destroy all vestiges of Japanese traditional society.

The conservatives were right.. It wasn't necessary to slaughter thousands of babies, little old ladies, teenagers, and the destroy the center of Japanese Christianity (Nagasaki) to bring an end to the war. Truman could have ended it earlier by agreeing to let the Japanese keep the emperor (which Truman ultimately did anyway).

35 posted on 08/05/2009 10:24:11 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Domandred
I’m just thankful the Japanese didn’t call our bluff on a third bomb. If I remember correctly it wasn’t finished yet.

Actually, we had a third one ready to go on August 19th. Another one would have been ready the first part of September with an addtional three later that month. Another three would have been ready in October.

36 posted on 08/05/2009 10:27:27 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind
Well what do you know : If you're black or hispanic, you tend not to support the use of Atomic Weapons in Japan.

Of course! They dropped the bomb on the minorities in Japan, so black and hispanics naturally empathize. Snark.

37 posted on 08/05/2009 10:36:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DesertRhino

Dropping two atomic bombs on Russia would have stopped the Cold War from even starting.I believe Winston Churchill wanted this. My targets would have been Moscow and Leningrad.


38 posted on 08/05/2009 10:38:31 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: DesertRhino

At that time, we had a virtual monopoly on the atomic bomb. That monopoly would have lasted a bit longer is atomic bombs were dropped on Russia


39 posted on 08/05/2009 10:41:46 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Interestingly, back in 1945, conservatives were more likely to condemn the dropping of the bomb than the New Dealers who wanted to destroy all vestiges of Japanese traditional society.

Where do you come up with that nonsense? All Americans were committed to total, unconditional surrender of the Japanese. The fire bombings of Tokyo killed more people than either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The Japanese Kamikaze suicide attacks took a terrible toll of US ships and personnel off the coast of Okinawa in April-June 1945. Suicide attacks by planes or boats at Okinawa sank or put out of action at least 30 U.S. warships, and at least three U.S. merchant ships, along with some from other Allied forces. The attacks expended 1,465 planes. Much worse was expected if we invaded Japan on sea and on land.

The idea that there was some partisan divide between conservative Republicans and Democrats in 1945 on how to deal with Japan is pure fantasy.

The conservatives were right.. It wasn't necessary to slaughter thousands of babies, little old ladies, teenagers, and the destroy the center of Japanese Christianity (Nagasaki) to bring an end to the war. Truman could have ended it earlier by agreeing to let the Japanese keep the emperor (which Truman ultimately did anyway).

Just more revisionist history. We were fighting a total war just like the Japanese did. We didn't "slaughter" anyone. We were fighting for our national survival. If you want to talk about slaughter, then take a look at what the Japanese did to China killing millions of people. The Japanese warrior code of Bushido helped to define the way the Japanese fought. Being captured was a sign of weakness and prisoners were shown no respect. True warriors fought to the death. Truman did the right thing.

How old are you. You sound like one of the brainwashed 18-34 year olds who have been fed a line of crap in our failing school systems. FYI: I was born in 1943, served 8 years in the Navy, including a year in Vietnam. My father and his four brother served in WWII with some seeing service in Tarawa, Anzio, and Salerno. They supported Truman's decision as did the vast majority of Americans. And by doing so, we probably saved Japanese lives as well.

I visited the museum in Nagasaki at ground zero in 1967.

40 posted on 08/05/2009 10:55:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ak267
Do not forget Unit 731. The Japanese did not have the resources to build an atomic bomb program but they did have a WMD program of their own. Bio weapons are WMDs.
41 posted on 08/06/2009 2:57:36 AM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: All

Happy Hiroshima Day!


42 posted on 08/06/2009 7:32:15 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!!)
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To: kabar
Where do you come up with that nonsense? All Americans were committed to total, unconditional surrender of the Japanese.

Correction. The final surrender was NOT conditional. The Japanese kept insisting on keeping the emperor even after the two bombings. Truman, who said he he didn't want to "kill more of those kids" agreed to this condition. There were plenty of Americans, including Senator Robert A. Taft (Mr. Republican), who criticized FDR (suddenly a good guy to conservatives!) support for unconditional surrender. Many, many Americans criticized the dropping of the bombs/unconditional surrender including Eisenhower, MacArthur, Robert McCormick, the conservative anti-New Deal publisher of the Chicago Tribune, and Herbert Hoover. If you want the details, you can find all the sources in the New Dealers War by Thomas Fleming.

Again, we have a different view of the rules of war. According to all the traditions of just war theory, which date back for centuries, it is immoral to INTENTIONALLY target babes, little old ladies, and other civilians for slaughter simply as a means simply to terrorizing the enemy. The fact that the Japanese killed lots of Chinese babies for the sole purpose of terrorizing the Chinese is not a defense of the U.S. doing the same.

43 posted on 08/06/2009 9:39:36 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
Many, many Americans criticized the dropping of the bombs/unconditional surrender including Eisenhower, MacArthur, Robert McCormick, the conservative anti-New Deal publisher of the Chicago Tribune, and Herbert Hoover.

Hindsight is always 20/20. The buck stopped in the WH and Truman made his decision based on the best information available and past experience with the Japanese, both in war and in peace. How much could Truman trust the Japanese who launched a surprise attack against our forces in Hawaii? Or used suicide attacks against our forces?

Again, we have a different view of the rules of war. According to all the traditions of just war theory, which date back for centuries, it is immoral to INTENTIONALLY target babes, little old ladies, and other civilians for slaughter simply as a means simply to terrorizing the enemy.

Mass warfare and mass weapons of destruction didn't exist centuries ago. Again, we DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY target babies, little old ladiers and other civilians for SLAUGHTER. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitmate military targets.

At the time of its bombing, Hiroshima was a city of some industrial and military significance. A number of military camps were located nearby, including the headquarters of the Fifth Division and Field Marshal Shunroku Hata's 2nd General Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. Hiroshima was a minor supply and logistics base for the Japanese military. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops.

The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great wartime importance because of its wide-ranging industrial activity, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials.Nagasaki had never been subjected to large-scale bombing prior to the explosion of a nuclear weapon there. On August 1, 1945, however, a number of conventional high-explosive bombs were dropped on the city. A few hit in the shipyards and dock areas in the southwest portion of the city, several hit the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works, and six bombs landed at the Nagasaki Medical School and Hospital, with three direct hits on buildings there. While the damage from these bombs was relatively small, it created considerable concern in Nagasaki and many people—principally school children—were evacuated to rural areas for safety, thus reducing the population in the city at the time of the nuclear attack.

The fact that the Japanese killed lots of Chinese babies for the sole purpose of terrorizing the Chinese is not a defense of the U.S. doing the same.

My point was that the Japanese should be the last ones to be immune from such type of warfare. They set the standard. The fire bombings of Dresden and Hamburg killed more than the nuclear weapons did in Japan.

I asked you how old you were, because you seem to buy into this proportionate response nonsense and antiseptic war concepts that are really a luxury for those who have overwhelming power and don't fear for their own survival from the enemy. WWII involved our survival as a nation. The attack on Pearl Harbor and subsequent declaration of war against us by the Germans two weeks later galvanized us as never before. Continental Europe was under the control of the Nazis [except for the Soviet Union] and the Japanese were running unchecked in the Far East. And the US was unprepared for war.

Mass warfare has changed the way we fight wars. Whole nations are marshalled into the fight. Troops are supported by a huge civilian infrastructure that supplies the weapons of war, food, ammunition, fuel, etc. In essence, entire countries become legitimate targets. And the objective becomes to break the will of the enemy.

Do you have a problem with our nuclear deterrence or our use of it? Do you believe that the US should adopt a policy of no-first use? Nuclear weapons or even conventional bombs can't distinguish between little old ladies and civilians engaged in the war machine.

44 posted on 08/06/2009 11:21:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

My father was in the Philippines getting ready to invade Japan when the A-bombs ended the war. I guarantee that if you polled the similarly-situated GIs there’d be 100% support for the A-bomb


45 posted on 08/06/2009 11:28:32 AM PDT by StanFran
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To: SeekAndFind

In the ninth grade my son got target by Leftist teachers because he supported up nuking Japan in a paper to a Leftist history teacher. Leftist teachers harassed him and hated him in an organized effort throughout senior year.

I ended up getting three of them fired because leftists always go over the top when they have a victim in their sights. They did not count on his mom who is meaner than they could ever dream of being...


46 posted on 08/06/2009 11:33:07 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: wastedyears

Thank God For the Bomb - Ozzy Osbourne

Like moths to a flame
Is man ever gonna change?
Time’s seen untold aggression
And infliction of pain
If that’s the only thing that’s stopping war

Then thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Nuke ya, nuke ya

War is just another game
Tailor made for the insane
But make a threat of their annihilation
And nobody wants to play
If that’s the only thing that keeps the peace

Then thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Nuke ya, nuke ya

Today was tommorow, yesterday
It’s funny how time can slip away
The face of the doomsday clock
Has launched a thousand wars
As we near the final hour
Time is the only foe we have

When war is obsolete
I’ll thank God for war’s defeat
But any talk about hell freezing over
Is all said with tongue in cheek
Until the day the war drums beat no more

I’ll thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Nuke ya, nuke ya


47 posted on 08/06/2009 11:38:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabar
"You may be heartened by the poll, but I think it stinks."

Well frankly; I agree that I'd much rather it be much higher in all categories. However, seeing that out country has been practicing creeping liberal indoctrination for the past 40 or so years, I still find it amazing that so many among us still have a basic traditional American standard of common sense left!

As for the other groups sited; I find there to be no surprise at all in those numbers. The race baiters among us have done a wonderful job in keeping the folks on the plantation, and those poll numbers prove it!

48 posted on 08/06/2009 6:38:06 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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