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Empty Chamber Saves TPD Officer's Life (Officers were in a shootout with a man wanted for murder)
Toledo on the Move ^ | Monday, August 10, 2009 | David Custer

Posted on 08/10/2009 10:26:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway

An empty chamber in a loaded gun saved the life of a Toledo police officer.

This, after a man wanted for murder took police on a high-speed chase and an intense shoot-out.

"Officer Board came very close to losing his life last night, that's fair to say," said Toledo Police Chief Mike Navarre.

Navarre says Sunday night's shoot-out at Dorr and Westwood could have been a lot worse.

Four officers walked away from the incident unharmed: Eric Board, Diana Trevino, Charles Leroux and Lieutenant Mark Collins. The suspect, 21-year-old Devon Tyrone Woods, was not so lucky.

A three mile high-speed pursuit initially triggered from a disturbance call at Southgate Circle ended when Woods' vehicle hit one car, causing it to hit another.

When Officer Eric Board approached the suspect vehicle, police say, Board's life almost ended at point blank.

"(The suspect) pointed it at the officer, pulled the trigger, the gun did not fire, and the reason it did not fire because apparently he didn't have a round in that chamber," said Navarre.

Officer Board hit the ground and the three other officers began firing.

Police say Woods fired two rounds and took off running.

The shootout ensued and Woods fired off one more round while falling to the ground.

In all, 34 rounds were fired from police -- and three are believed to come from Woods.

Woods was shot five times, he died from his wounds.

"Officers are trained to fire and continue firing until the job is complete," said Navarre.

In studying the suspect, police discovered that Woods had a dangerous secret.

"We also learned last night that he has a warrant for his arrest for the crime of murder," said Navarre.

Not only was Woods wanted for murder, but police say the 21-year-old's rap sheet was extensive.

They say he had committed several armed robberies in the Detroit area and NBC24 discovered that he had just been let out of prison in February of this year after serving two years on a felony weapons conviction out of Wayne County.

You can view Woods' criminal past for yourself by clicking here.

All four officers involved the shootout are on paid administrative leave.

Navarre says this will help them cope with the trauma and emotional stress of being involved in such a violent incident.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Alabama; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; dirtyharry; firearm; gun
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1 posted on 08/10/2009 10:26:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

...those darned Amish!


2 posted on 08/10/2009 10:29:34 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: nickcarraway

I like this Toledo police chief Navarre. “until the job is completed” Has a nice finality sound to me.

One dead piece of shit and one gun off the street. Wonder if he had a job with ACORN or the SEIU?


3 posted on 08/10/2009 10:33:23 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nickcarraway
Not only was Woods wanted for murder, but police say the 21-year-old's rap sheet was extensive.

busy...busy...busy...so busy he forgot to put one in the pipe. Lucky for the cop.

A toast to the thin blue line.

4 posted on 08/10/2009 10:34:13 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: nickcarraway

And that, boys and girls, is why you don’t carry a semiauto pistol without one in the chamber.

In this case, it was the bad guy with an empty chamber, and he got killed. If you carry with an empty chamber, next time it could be you getting shot by the bad guys.


5 posted on 08/10/2009 10:38:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Empty chamber = unloaded gun, unloaded gun = paperweight.


6 posted on 08/10/2009 10:44:16 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Blue Jays
Can someone remind me again why Devon Tyrone Woods was not chained inside a prison cell?


7 posted on 08/10/2009 11:00:25 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Woods was probably a Managing Director of both ACORN and SEIU witha rap sheet like that! AG Holder is most likely pressing charges against the “EVIL POLICE” for Not Giving Woods Extra Time to Chamber Another Bullet before Firing!
The Police deserve a MEDAL of HONOR for this Act of Heroism, but Obama’s Justice will do everything to destroy them!


8 posted on 08/10/2009 11:40:12 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: umgud

Exactly, but there are apparently a number of fools on FR that believe that semiautos should always be carried with an empty chamber and that ‘you will always have enough time to chamber a round while drawing.’


9 posted on 08/10/2009 11:54:21 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: nickcarraway
When Officer Eric Board approached the suspect vehicle, police say, Board's life almost ended at point blank.

"(The suspect) pointed it at the officer, pulled the trigger, the gun did not fire, and the reason it did not fire because apparently he didn't have a round in that chamber," said Navarre.

Police say Woods fired two rounds and took off running.

The shootout ensued and Woods fired off one more round while falling to the ground.

In all, 34 rounds were fired from police -- and three are believed to come from Woods.

Woods was shot five times, he died from his wounds.

"Officers are trained to fire and continue firing until the job is complete," said Navarre.

"We also learned last night that he has a warrant for his arrest for the crime of murder," said Navarre.

Not only was Woods wanted for murder, but police say the 21-year-old's rap sheet was extensive.

They say he had committed several armed robberies in the Detroit area and NBC24 discovered that he had just been let out of prison in February of this year after serving two years on a felony weapons conviction out of Wayne County.

Sounds like a case of suicide by COP.

He knew if he was taken alive he was going to jail for the rest of his life and he just wasn’t willing to go, he would rather be dead.

10 posted on 08/11/2009 12:43:20 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Spktyr; umgud
Exactly, but there are apparently a number of fools on FR that believe that semiautos should always be carried with an empty chamber and that ‘you will always have enough time to chamber a round while drawing.

As many gun porn and self defense threads as I have been on over the years, I can't say I've come across anyone advocating carrying a semiauto with an empty chamber but will keep an eye out for it in the future.

That having been said, I don't see where the article says he had a semi auto. He may have been carrying a revolver and placed an empty chamber in the wrong position. He pulled the trigger, the gun didn't go off and it took him a couple seconds to realize his mistake.

The article did say he was eventually able to fire a few shots.

11 posted on 08/11/2009 1:37:00 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Spktyr
Exactly, but there are apparently a number of fools on FR that believe that semiautos should always be carried with an empty chamber and that ‘you will always have enough time to chamber a round while drawing.’

If someone is uncomfortable with carrying one in the pipe then they probably shouldn't even bother carrying a pistol. I carry the way I was trained in the military and in law enforcement...round chambered and safety off, if there is an external safety.

12 posted on 08/11/2009 1:55:47 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: fso301

If it was a revolver he would have simply pulled the trigger again (which he did, apparently) to get to the next loaded cylinder (which he apparently didn’t).


13 posted on 08/11/2009 2:01:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: AlaskaErik

“If someone is uncomfortable with carrying one in the pipe then they probably shouldn’t even bother carrying a pistol”

Thats rather presumptuous of you. Some people prefer it that way and they as much or more knowledgeable than you appear to be.


14 posted on 08/11/2009 2:02:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Sounds like an acorn man to me, hopefully they can get a few more of them.


15 posted on 08/11/2009 2:03:58 AM PDT by heshtesh
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To: driftdiver
Thats rather presumptuous of you. Some people prefer it that way and they as much or more knowledgeable than you appear to be.

If it's a preference to carry with an empty chamber then it's a preference made without being knowledgeable on the subject. The only reason to carry a pistol is for protection and it isn't going to protect you if it doesn't go bang when you pull the trigger. Racking a round at the last second might make for more drama in a movie, but no professional is going to do that in real life.

16 posted on 08/11/2009 2:38:31 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

“If it’s a preference to carry with an empty chamber then it’s a preference made without being knowledgeable on the subject.”

BS

“Racking a round at the last second might make for more drama in a movie, but no professional is going to do that in real life.”

I didn’t say cops shouldn’t have a round in the chamber. But for you to say everyone should have a round in the chamber or not carry a gun is asinine.


17 posted on 08/11/2009 2:44:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Spktyr
If it was a revolver he would have simply pulled the trigger again (which he did, apparently) to get to the next loaded cylinder (which he apparently didn’t).

First of all, whenever I'm open carrying a revolver say in the woods with an exposed hammer, I keep the hammer down on an empty cylinder. Always have. Always will.

That having been said, the shooter in this article would only have quickly pulled the trigger if he had the presence of mind to do so. Obviously, there was some pause. He expected the gun to go off. It didn't, That startled him and he spent a moment or two thinking about why the gun didn't go off before he decided to pull the trigger again.

Many years ago, I recall a robbery in which the robber pointed the gun at the clerk, pulled the trigger but the gun didn't go off. Puzzled, he looked down the barrel, pulled the trigger and the gun went off killing him. I thought it was hilarious. Maybe a year or two later, I heard of the same thing happening again in a different robbery. Just because young punks have guns doesn't mean they know anything about how to use them.

Furthermore, whenever a semiauto is involved, the media make sure to mention it. Curious that no mention was made as to the type of gun.

18 posted on 08/11/2009 3:15:04 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Actually, I notice the media often either misidentifies the weapon or simply doesn’t mention it - unless it’s an evildeathkillrapemurderassault weapon. :P


19 posted on 08/11/2009 3:27:39 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: fso301

I refer you to post #14 for your viewing pleasure of said person advocating said position.


20 posted on 08/11/2009 3:29:45 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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