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Empty Cradles, Demographic Destiny and the Death of the West
American Thinker ^ | August 12, 2009 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 08/12/2009 12:50:46 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/12/2009 12:50:49 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

This is the crux of the illegal immigration and healthcare issues: our goobermint masters KNOW that our population is ageing, and in order to continue to fund their vote-buying schemes, we MUST have an influx of “new” citizens to tax.

The healthcare scheme will insure that the take the medically-expensive senior citizens out early, thereby saving tax dollars.

Sure, the leftists want control of us all, but what they really want most is their own personal power as provided by the ability to tax and then spend other peoples money.


2 posted on 08/12/2009 12:59:55 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Obama as the Wizard of Oz

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3 posted on 08/12/2009 1:18:34 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Obama as the Wizard of Oz

The Untouchables - We have met the Public Enemy, and he is us.

TIME FOR SECESSION

Cash for Climate - How to get your money's worth on climate change geoengineering

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

4 posted on 08/12/2009 1:19:12 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

With the truncation of the process of sex into convenient packaged pleasures, its God-intended product becomes more rare. The Slammies being such fanatical prudes may be the main thing keeping them going. Christianity with its emphasis on bodily purity is surely the main reason why Western society burgeoned so much from the early centuries A.D. up to the early 20th century, and the modern devaluation of Christianity in the West why it has gone down.


5 posted on 08/12/2009 2:30:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: clee1

Also probably why Bush went so easy on them; he was hoping, unrealistically, they would buy into a center-right bourgeois mindset and be GOP-friendly. But why would they, when the Rat lefties serve them as much instant candy as they want?


6 posted on 08/12/2009 2:32:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: neverdem

45,000,000 are gone from our shores by CHOICE.


7 posted on 08/12/2009 3:27:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: neverdem

It has been pointed out in recent years that the more secular a nation becomes, the lower the birthrate. Children are no longer viewed as a precious gift from God, but as an obligation or inconvenience. The birth control pill has become Western Europe’s suicide pill. Materialistic concerns take precedence over raising children. The implications for this for the future is that atheists/secularists will continue to decrease and religious populations will continue to increase. The growth of Islam is a prime example of this demographical trend. Unless the demographics suddenly change, Europe will become a Muslim nation.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 3:45:22 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Elsie
45,000,000 are gone from our shores by CHOICE.

Those are the ones we can count. Their progeny would have been perhaps three times as numerous.

9 posted on 08/12/2009 4:12:13 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: neverdem; Albion Wilde
While the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding was good cinema, it was also a big fat Hollywood fiction.

Mark Steyn suggested that it should be "My Big Uptight Protestant Wedding," since conservative Protestants are among the groups still having large families.

Now if P.J. O'Rourke wrote the screenplay ...

10 posted on 08/12/2009 5:13:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Good intentions mean nothing. Incentives and constraints mean everything.)
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Also, why would they when the country they come from is already an oligarchy, and systemic corruption is the norm?

I had a 3rd-generation American-of-Mexican-descent teacher tell me that the reason she didn’t support illegal aliens or larger numbers of legal Latino immigration was the view of government that they bring with them: it is EXPECTED that the government is corrupt, and that the people are born are to serve the state.


11 posted on 08/12/2009 5:16:45 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Also, why would they when the country they come from is already an oligarchy, and systemic corruption is the norm?

I had a 3rd-generation American-of-Mexican-descent teacher tell me that the reason she didn’t support illegal aliens or larger numbers of legal Latino immigration was the view of government that they bring with them: it is EXPECTED that the government is corrupt, and that the people are born are to serve the state.


12 posted on 08/12/2009 5:16:50 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"When I ponder our materialism, promiscuity, frivolity and selfishness, our abortion-mill archipelago that churns with Nazi-like efficiency, it occurs to me that perhaps the leftists are right -- just not for the reasons they think. It's not sins of our past that haunt us but those of our present, and maybe the euthanizing of Western civilization is, after all, our comeuppance."

Perhaps the man has a point.

13 posted on 08/12/2009 5:22:10 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Nosterrex

Materialistic concerns take precedence over raising children


Yup, that is it in a nutshell. We have made ourselves too comfortable. Things won’t change until that starts to change. I will say this: when Westerners fells threatened enough, watch out.


14 posted on 08/12/2009 5:26:16 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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The cheapening of sex is the main thing. Saudi Arabia is almost as decadent, but keeps the historic Islamic sexual taboos. It’s not going down the tubes population-wise.


15 posted on 08/12/2009 5:30:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; neverdem

I went to check your statement about Saudi Arabia and found this cool world-birthrate map:

http://www.indexmundi.com/map/?v=25


16 posted on 08/12/2009 6:08:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Good intentions mean nothing. Incentives and constraints mean everything.)
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To: neverdem

Global Warming, Overpopulation, Depopulation... it’s all Chicken Little chicken$#!^ designed to panic people into supporting some agenda or other.


17 posted on 08/12/2009 7:26:10 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: ImpBill

Indeed. Marxism, Naziism, nihilism - all products of Western civ. Thanks esp. to Germany, for coming up with all the worst ideas that grew to adulthood in the 20th century. Hopefully the West will survive, but if not, can’t say its end was authored from without.


18 posted on 08/12/2009 7:27:39 AM PDT by TimSkalaBim
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 08/12/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Nosterrex
The birth control pill has become Western Europe’s suicide pill.

Ouch! Dead on.

20 posted on 08/12/2009 10:23:50 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Media: quit making things up." --Sarah Palin)
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