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Horowitz has a must-read post today.
1 posted on 08/16/2009 12:10:55 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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The one thing the radicals want, is destroy America.

Hard to believe, but true.
2 posted on 08/16/2009 12:16:32 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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The links to great articles like this are one of the best reasons to cruise this forum. Wow!


3 posted on 08/16/2009 12:18:09 PM PDT by dog breath
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David Horowitz carries enough weight that his utterances belong not in "blogs and personal" but in "news"...

IMHO

4 posted on 08/16/2009 12:19:27 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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Ping!


5 posted on 08/16/2009 12:19:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Free expression of religion is one of our Unalienable, Natural Rights)
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Passionate and beautifully written, with his trademark tragic undertone. My hero.


8 posted on 08/16/2009 12:21:02 PM PDT by Mamzelle (bring your cameras to all political gatherings--video if you can)
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Thanks David.


9 posted on 08/16/2009 12:26:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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Thanks very much for posting. HOORAY David Horowitz! HOORAY Glenn Beck!


10 posted on 08/16/2009 12:29:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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11 posted on 08/16/2009 12:30:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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[Conservatives] assume that radicals can’t really want to destroy a society that is democratic and liberal and has brought wealth and prosperity to so many. Oh yes they can.

We should never underestimate their perverse hatred of all that is good.

12 posted on 08/16/2009 12:30:18 PM PDT by livius
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“Alinksy is their Sun-Tzu...”

I stole a copy of Rules For Radicals and placed it next to my pocket edition of Sun-Tzu on the bookshelf. I was gratified when I heard that GB did the same thing...


13 posted on 08/16/2009 12:36:55 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Saul Alinsky quoting Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky

“They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution.”

this is the guiding light of modern democrats, IMHO


15 posted on 08/16/2009 12:45:49 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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We are at War with Obama.

Alinsky back at em'!

16 posted on 08/16/2009 12:46:56 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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Deep behind enemy lines in Santa Barbara CA a young Freedom Lover named Justin Tevis is running for Santa Barbara City Council. He really sticks it to ACORN at a Freedom Rally last Thursday.

Justin Tevis Gets Radical Back in front of Lois Capps office

17 posted on 08/16/2009 12:50:26 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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A must read for any person who wants to save America.


20 posted on 08/16/2009 1:00:10 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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"Conservatives are altogether too decent, too civilized to match up adequately, at least in the initital stages of the battle, with their adversaries. They are too prone to give them the benefit of the doubt."

Yes, at least in the initial stages of battle. When Clinton was president, I bit my tongue countless times, but remained respectful of him for the most part. But after 8 years of the incessant verbal evisceration of President Bush I sore that I would internalize the lessons I learned from the left and hate whoever their next president would be, regardless. For all the reasons I hate Obama, perhaps the best reason I can come up with is that I hate him for hate’s sake. I’m not proud of it; it’s not logical and not even right, but it is who I am now.

21 posted on 08/16/2009 1:06:50 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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Horowitz must be listened to, he knows what he’s talking having been one of them.


24 posted on 08/16/2009 1:36:27 PM PDT by fullchroma (flag@whitehouse.gov: come and get me.)
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great stuff


25 posted on 08/16/2009 1:55:43 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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bflr


27 posted on 08/16/2009 2:18:09 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (It appears we DON'T wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin!!!)
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Horowitz has pinpointed reasons why the term "conservative" may not be the best description for what we are seeing in the Town Halls and TEA groups today. These citizens who "sniff" (see Burke below)tyranny in the wind are more like the revolutionary generation which gave us the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. So many politicians have called themselves "conservative" and have done anything but "conserve" the Founding Ideas that they have sullied the word.

Those who engage today must elevate the debate to the point where the media cannot distort it as being just "ignorance" (as Katie Couric claimed yesterday). The Gibbs and Axelrod talking points cannot trump the forcefulness and truth of the words of America's Founders on liberty vs. tyranny.

Edmund Burke, before the British Parliament way back in March 1775, observed the colonists' fierce "spirit of liberty." He said:

"In other countries the people . . . judge of an ill principle in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principle." He said Americans could detect "misgovernment at a distance and sniff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze."

James Madison put it this way, "The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much, soo to forget it."

Any Republicans or Democrats who "compromise" for the sake of popularity now on this important principle involving future generations should be recalled at the next election cycle!

This is not about a frivolous question of which provisions are acceptable and which are unacceptable. This is about a power struggle between the principles the founding generation were willing to stake their "lives, property, and sacred honor" for, and those who, throughout the history of civilization have arrogated unto themselves power over other people's lives.

The current "issue" called "health care reform," or its equally obnoxious semantic twin "health insurance reform," is just the invasion of liberty by arrogant elected officials which has finally aroused citizens who, heretofore, ignored the decades-long power grab by those who were supposed to protect "We, the People's" constitutional principles.

Now, citizens are seeing that it is a matter of "principle," not an issue of semantics over wording.

They should not allow their elected representatives to be coopted by "blue dogs" or any other "wolf in sheep's clothing" that would allow what may turn out to be the most important watershed moment in the history of American liberty to be further threatened. Now, Conrad and Sebelius, and others, sensing the voter mood are throwing out "compromise" talk this weekend, all to punt for better position down the road. Seize the moment for the sake of posterity and just say, "no"!

A word from the author of our Declaration of Independence regarding citizens and oppressive government might give some backbone to today's citizens:

"The most effectual means of preventing the perversion of power into tyranny are to illuminate . . . the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that they may. . . know ambition under all its shapes, and . . . exert their natural power to defeat its purposes." - Thomas Jefferson

And, for more wisdom from the same source:

" . . . this is a tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second, that second for a third, and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sin and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers. . . have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the forehorse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follws that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."- Thomas Jefferson

If 21st Century Town Hallers can stop this mad rush to coercive government power, future generations may call them "the second founding generation."

28 posted on 08/16/2009 2:19:57 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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For the most part, Horowitz and Beck, Savage, Levin and others are telling it like it is and quite honestly, it scares the hell out of me.

I reluctantly came to the conclusion some years ago that most can't, don't or refuse to see what is happening and have the honorary tin foil hat to show for it. One is crazy to even think such things, right?

Perhaps, but though there once was something of a balance of political power and shared core political values, the left now has nearly absolute power and they do not seem to be restrained by any decent, legal or civilized constraints. They do not want what the Constitution so eloquently lays out.

History and a quick look around at other countries shows what is coming, even as we foolishly believe it can't happen to us. Fortunately, there are a few modern Paul Reveres telling us that it is happening. May obama's, Reid's and Pelosi's actions soon wake us from our collective denial, before we all burn in the coming Reichtag fire.

31 posted on 08/16/2009 6:01:52 PM PDT by GBA
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