Obama's parents didn't live at newspaper birth address

WorldNetDaily ^ | August 18, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

[RobinMasters]

Additional documents uncovered by WND support a previous report that President Obama's parents did not live together as husband and wife at the Honolulu address listed in birth announcements in two local newspapers.

Both newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, carried the announcement that Barack Obama Jr. was born Aug. 4, 1961, to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, residing at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.

Moreover, Mr. and Mrs. Obama apparently did not live together after their marriage, with Dunham evidently remaining in the rented 6085 Kalanianaole Highway house.

Barack Obama Sr. lived alone at an 11th Avenue address in Honolulu, closer to the university. Dunham left Hawaii for Seattle in August 1961, the month of Barack Obama Jr.'s birth, to study at the University of Washington.

WND can find no listing in the Polk directories to document Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever living at the same address.

[bgill]

I’m going with Beatrice Arakaki. She lived next door since before 1961... She could have missed Stanley Ann and little Barry

From the ObamaFile: "Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway." Either this goes back to my belief that islanders at least knew of each other back then or she keeps up with the internet.

[bgill]

Hmmmm, when will Hussein send in ACORN to take over Polk?

BTW, Robert and Eleanor Nordyke still live in the house where the twins were born. It’s right by UH. Several of their kids or relatives live within walking distance.

[kabumpo]

It all sounds so interesting. Perhaps we’ll know the truth someday.

[bgill]

Naw, he wouldn’t care about marital status. Everyone already knows O. Sr. was a bigamist and was married to Kezia, wife #1 when he supposedly married Ann. As of yet there is no marriage record found but we do have proof of a divorce so somewhere there was some sort of marriage. Michelle sort of let that cat out of the bag when she announced Ann was “very young and very single” when she had him or that could have meant that Sr. had already skipped out on them.

No, whatever the secret it is something much, much bigger. Most are leaning toward citizenship. The only thing that links all the sealed records is citizenship. There’s questions of his citizenship at birth, citizenship from adoption, citizenship at maturity, citizenship on government college loans and scholarships, citizenship on his passports with an “s”, and citizenship eligibility for POTUS.

[BP2]

Anyway you cut it, Obama's Certificate number should be BEFORE, not AFTER, the Nordyke twins!

His form was accepted/filed by the Registrar THREE days before both of the Nordyke twins. The turn-around time by the state in the 60s is less than a week -- 4-6 days as shown below. YET his Certificate # is THREE certificate numbers BEFORE Gretchen's.

Name	Location of Birth	Birth Cert #	(Day) Date/Time Born	Date of Signature of Parent or Other Informant	(Day) Date Accepted by Local Reg.	Diff bet Date born & Accepted by Local Reg.
Barack Hussein Obama	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10641	(Fri) Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm	unknown	Aug. 8, 1961 *	4 days
Susan Elizabeth Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10637	(Sat) Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm	Aug 8, 1961	Aug 11, 1961	6 days
Gretchen Carter Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10638	(Sat) Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm	Aug 8, 1961	Aug 11, 1961	6 days
Edith Pauline Coats	Wahiawa Gen. Hospital	151-62-08498	(Fri) June 15, 1962 3:51 am	June 15, 1962	June 19, 1962	4 days

* Note: Obama’s Certification states “Date Filed by Registrar” instead of “Date Accepted by Registrar”

[presently no screen name]

I agree. It’s more a ‘citizenship’ issue than an ‘embarrassment/father’ issue. No reason to keep his passport under wraps. The biggest con job pulled on some sleeping Americans. It’s no wonder everything he has done so far to tear America down is a rush job - before they wake/woke up.

[MHGinTN]

The image on the left is of a document which was never issued fromt he State. It is a very good forgery, but a fraud. The date which is barely legible from the opposite side, seen in reverse in the image, has been debunked by the Hawaii vital records director, since no CoLB was issued in 2007 for Barack Obama/Barak Obama. The image on the left was, in fact, a later doctored version with seal added, tot he first forgery placed on the web without the raised seal at Obama's campaign site. There are three black dots found in maginification which are common to the first image sans raised seal, and the posted image w/seal and paper folded.

My question is, whom in the Vital Records department aided in this forgery since the raised seal is for a year different from the date bleeding through from the back side? Is Fukino helping her Pres_ _ent to create documents for what he needs? She certainly was eager--without the qualification necessary--to tell the world he is a natural born citizen! Does she know he is a fraud?

[Frantzie]

I hope she has help with a more experienced lawyer who will go over her paperwork in the Judge Carter case. This may be the key case to save the republic.

[BP2]

Keep in mind that newspapers didn’t use computers but linotype machines.
There was no cut and paste.

Having worked for a few newspaper in the old days myself, strips of "copy" type
were printed from the Linotypes ...

... cut with an X-acto knife ...

... then waxed and rolled to stay in place (hence the phrase
"cut and paste", but unlike how we know it today)...

Depending on the size of the paper, and the number of people on staff,
it may have taken 2-3 days to get the final version of the page finalized
before going to the printing presses, especially if it was a "weekly".

[bgill]

What do you mean “turn-around time”? It went one direction and didn’t turn around. And his number is three digits AFTER Gretchen’s. Also, what was in the two red x boxes?

There are two things here. First, from the dates and times of the births and the parent signatures, we can assume the hospital records clerk didn’t work after 5 pm on Fridays and the office was likely closed Saturdays and Sundays. That means the earliest Ann could have signed anything was Monday, Aug. 7th. There is no way the paperwork could have gotten from the hospital on Monday, Aug. 7th, to the courthouse, and on to the state health department by Tuesday, Aug. 8th.

Second, the usual proceedure is stamp it immediately upon opening the mail, then it’s placed in someone’s IN box to be signed later, and eventually it gets filed and recorded. The order of number stamp doesn’t bother me because several could have arrived in the mail in the same large envelope and they were numbered according to how they were pulled out of the envelope, or that his arrived after the twins. The RED FLAG that it is a FORGERY is his could NOT have been filed on Aug. 8th three days before his number was issued (at the earliest) on Aug. 11th.

[bgill]

Or did you mean “turn around time” from the hospital to the newspaper? Ok, got cha. Yeah, well, we all know that was an impossibility and the usurper is still sitting in the oval office.

Hey, if you ever run across as miniature linotype machine replica (1:12 scale or there about) let me know, please.

[pepsionice]

I think you are about 90 percent correct. This entire effort is about something that doesn’t fit the legend...and not some weird story about a pregnant girl running off to Kenya. The legend is his story...which he has been telling for 30 years. I doubt if his mom ever sat down and explained the whole sorted affair on how the original affair got screwed up, and how the Indonesian husband never worked out. Imagine your own mom having to admit she was an idiot for most of her adult life.

Eventually....some part of this story will fall apart and he’ll be standing smiling and admitting that some part of the legend doesn’t work. Then you’ll wonder...what else doesn’t fit. The key fit here? What idiot would write his bio at such a youthful age? The answer....a guy who doesn’t have a story worth telling...and fabricates something really off the wall.

[sheik yerbouty]

Hopefully, soon..

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[TheThinker]

Obama is a stinkin’ liar.

[SevenofNine]

That cold blooded I think to safe to say that everybody on this board could produce their child birth certiicate or their own and where they living at the time LOL!

[Miss Marple]

My theory is that he WAS born in Hawaii, and his citizenship isn’t in question.

I do think it possible that some other black man was the father, whether it was Frank Marshall Davis or someone else.
An illegitimate birth was still a major social stigma in 1961. I believe that the Dunhams PAID Obama Sr. to marry their daughter, in part because an African was a bit more acceptable than someone from the ghetto. (This is what I think THEY were thinking, not my personal belief.)

Stanley Dunham probably goofed up when listing the name, either being confused and scared or maybe not realizing that whatever she said to the nurse would be entered on the official birth certificate. No one probably noticed or cared until Obama ran for president.

And if his original BC had someone else’s name on it, he would have known because of having to get it for selective service registration, entrance into law school, etc.

And if he knew that Obama wasn’t his real father, then those two books he wrote and his whole narrative as a “builder of bridges” was a big fat lie. Very embarassing for someone running for president.

That’s why I think they have an embargo on the original BC. I also think it’s why he doesn’t do anything for any of the African side of the family...he knows they are really no blood relation.

[CaliforniaCon]

RE: “I do think it possible that some other black man was the father, whether it was Frank Marshall Davis or someone else.”

*****************

Here’s another vote for Malcolm X. Amazing resemblance between X and zero.........

[Miss Marple]

I don’t really care whether it was Malcolm X or some student at the university.

The important thing is that it was NOT Obama, and therefore his entire life has been built on a lie.

You can’t write a fancy poetic narrative about your mother getting pregnant by some college athlete, but you sure can if your father is an African. Blending of cultures and all that stuff.

The more this goes on, the more I think that is the answer. And it is why he won’t release it. It would destroy his citizen of the world reputation. Plus, it would look like claiming an American black father wasn’t good enough for Stanley.

[cvq3842]

It certainly does make sense - and it would explain the effort spent to keep the BC locked away.

Funny, though - if Obama were born in Hawaii but just had a different father, his cover-up has allowed people to assume the worst. So he may have really done himself more damage.

Now if only we could get the school records too . . .