Posted on 08/18/2009 6:38:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Additional documents uncovered by WND support a previous report that President Obama's parents did not live together as husband and wife at the Honolulu address listed in birth announcements in two local newspapers.
Both newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, carried the announcement that Barack Obama Jr. was born Aug. 4, 1961, to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, residing at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.
Moreover, Mr. and Mrs. Obama apparently did not live together after their marriage, with Dunham evidently remaining in the rented 6085 Kalanianaole Highway house.
Barack Obama Sr. lived alone at an 11th Avenue address in Honolulu, closer to the university. Dunham left Hawaii for Seattle in August 1961, the month of Barack Obama Jr.'s birth, to study at the University of Washington.
WND can find no listing in the Polk directories to document Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever living at the same address.
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Yes, a definite possibility.
Obama was born in Hawaii, because his mother said so. Just like John Kerry won the Purple Hearts because John Kerry said he deserved them.
I'm sure you meant "AFTER", whereas it should be before, having been "filed" 3 days earlier.
Yes, I find it extremely curious.
I think it's safe to discount anything Abercrombie has said.
You can’t write a fancy poetic narrative about your mother getting pregnant by some college athlete, but you sure can if your father is an African. Blending of cultures and all that stuff.
The more this goes on, the more I think that is the answer. And it is why he won’t release it. It would destroy his citizen of the world reputation. Plus, it would look like claiming an American black father wasn’t good enough for Stanley.
Yes. It simply wasn't good enough -- and certainly not up to Stanley Ann's delusionary standards.
Unfortunately as nice as this theory seems, he could still claim world-citizen status (and has in so many words) due to his indisputable life in Indonesia.
I’m going with Beatrice Arakaki. She lived next door since before 1961.
...to which another freeper replied (in part)She could have missed Stanley Ann and little Barry
how/why did you do that?
I understand that the same problem exists with records for Wm. Shakespeare amd Anne Hathaway.
Sorry. Go back to #241 and see that I was replying to both you and El Gato. That's what the ... was for.
I don’t know where Corsi got the idea that Ann’s parents lived there. The house was owned by the Leforge’s (or Lafarges, could be spelled wrong) and the Dunham’s known addresses are other than this.
This is the first I’ve ever read that Ann’s family lived at this address. I don’t get it.?
They claim they got it from the Polk Directory.
Not at all, people used to be paid to go down to the courthouse and transcribe the latest "public records". Birth certificats were such records, as were marriage licenses (think: lots of junk mail arriving after the wedding), county tax records, vehicle registrations, etc. Some were used for mailing lists, others for directories such as Polks.
The record shows that she skipped out on him. She and Barry went to Washington state, where she attended classes at U. Washington, no later than late September, but much evidence points to late August, mere weeks after Barry was born.
The African stayed at U. Hawaii until the next June, when he graduated and went to Haaavard.
thanks, that’s what it looked like, you combined my reply with a comment made by someone else. I just wanted to clear that up...because written in italics, it could be seen as one quote.
Another example of how I should read more of the thread before making dumb comments/questions.
thanks, now I think I understand the 'usefulness' of such a directory...handy for tracing people and stuffing mailboxes; are these directories still being published?
Someone I know did a free trial. Worthless. Lots of info not there. But maybe back then they were reliable.
The heading on the column in the Honolulu Advertiser was "Health Bureau Statistics", with a subheading, in larger type, of "Births, Marriages, Deaths".
Keep in mind that newspapers didn’t use computers but linotype machines. There was no cut and paste. Everything had to be typed in so information had to be in the reporters hands with plenty of lead time. The Aug. 13th edition had to be completed by the 12th to allow time for it to be printed. So, the earliest the hospital clerk could do her work would be Aug. 5th and the latest it could have gotten to the newspaper would be the 12th. That’s at the max 8 days. I’ve worked in a county clerk’s office and filed births and I can tell you that would entail some dedicated workers for the turn around to be complete in that time.
Barry's reported birth date fits in the range of the dates of the other births reported in that edition of the Advertiser, which were the 1st through the 6th of August.
You really ought to at least look at the data before spinning your theories. Nothing wrong with theories, but they have to fit the data.
BTW, both newspapers also put Marriage License Applications in the same section of the paper, yet no one can find such an application for Stanley Ann and Barack H. Obama Sr. The legend, and alleged divorce papers, say there were married in Maui, Hawaii. Maybe Maui didn't have a newspaper? Nope the Maui News has been around since 1900. The web version doesn't have births, or marriage applications, but the print might, or might have in '61.
Polk *was* and is one of those, in many cities.
I would think someone went to the libraries in Hawaii and Seattle and looked at and photographed, old editions from '61.
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