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Senate Democratic Leadership Will Pass Health Care Reform “By Any Legislative Means Necessary”
ABCnews.com - Political Punch ^ | 08/19/09 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 08/19/2009 1:24:08 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

Amidst questions of whether or not any Senate Republicans will support a health care reform bill, Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., today said that the “White House and the Senate Democratic leadership still prefer a bipartisan bill.”

The Reid spokesman said that “neither the White House nor the leadership have made a decision to pursue reconciliation,” the somewhat controversial legislative process by which a bill is introduced in such a manner so that it requires merely 50 votes instead of 60 to proceed to a vote, thus removing the threat of filibuster.

Manley said that “we will not make a decision to pursue reconciliation until we have exhausted efforts to produce a bipartisan bill.”

“However,” he cautioned, “patience is not unlimited and we are determined to get something done this year by any legislative means necessary.”

“By any means necessary” is a phrase popularized by Malcolm X (demanding the rights of African-Americans to be respected in society), though it is thought to have originally been penned by French existentialist Jean Paul Sartre in his play about assassination “Dirty Hands” (in a line demanding the end of class).

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To: OldDeckHand

NO THEY WON’T.


121 posted on 08/19/2009 3:55:03 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: pburgh01
Man Obama really ran them into a ditch.

I certainly don't claim to be clairvoyant, but anyone that TRIED to study the history of the child messiah in the WH certainly saw this as a possible scenario. What I did not believe (or think about) was the speed with which he would wield the wrecking ball on our country.
122 posted on 08/19/2009 3:55:31 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: maggief

I’m in Maine, and that piece of pond scum known as Olympia Snowe took questions in an unannounced gathering outdoors today in downtown Bangor, Maine.

She discussed “healthcare reform” and made it clear that a bill will pass this year. You can expect this bit*h and Susan Collins, the stimulus sisters, to vote yes on any bill the democrats propose. There aren’t words in the English language to describe how much I depise these two scumbags.


123 posted on 08/19/2009 3:56:39 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: TxAnn56

Entitlements are only impossible to roll back after people have become dependent upon them. If most of the bill doesn’t start until 2013, we may well be able to roll it back. The question is, can we trust the Republicans to follow through with that? And if they do, will we have the votes to override a veto? If not, we’ll need to win the presidency in 2012 to get it done. But even in 2012, this can be rolled back, since nobody is yet dependent on it.

The thing is, no matter what happens, we’re headed for a civil war. Nobody wants to admit it, but we’re barreling towards it full speed. People who think it can’t happen here are deluding themselves.


124 posted on 08/19/2009 4:02:13 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: keepitreal
They can’t get a cloture vote because they’re missing two of their 60. Byrd and Kennedy don’t come to work anymore

but it seems they could "borrow" at least two of ours ...

125 posted on 08/19/2009 4:26:22 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: NormsRevenge
This nation would do well to flee the DEms embrace of socialism without regard the costs.

Oohrah. Got yer six.

126 posted on 08/19/2009 5:08:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I wonder where all those people who said back in November it was a good thing the Democrats had total control of the government are?
127 posted on 08/19/2009 5:09:11 PM PDT by walsh
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To: Brookhaven

I heard that Snowe wants a 5-year trial without the public option to see if competition can be improved. Then, if it isn’t after five years and prices don’t go down, the option would kick in.


128 posted on 08/19/2009 5:09:21 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: melancholy
Next, 0dung0 may affirm his belief in upholding the second amendment. He'll ask us shoot ourselves with our own weapons. If you don't, you'll be arrested for defying the Constitution.

No need in that. Shooting the commie threatening to arrest you in THEIR foot would prove your belief in the Second Amendment just as well. Plus, it will go a long way in making a true believer out of the commie threatening you as well.

Now that is a win-win.

129 posted on 08/19/2009 5:31:08 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Gabrial
That is why there is a disclaimer on the Social Security Statement of Benefits that says the laws concerning payouts can be changed at any time.

Actually that disclaimer exist because the Social Security Act of 1935 itself contains the provision that Congress can change at any time any provisions of the act they want without deliberating and passing a Bill in Congress.

Basically everyone on SS is at the total mercy of Congress without benefit of public debate and sign off by the President.

130 posted on 08/19/2009 6:19:47 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: OldDeckHand

That means that when they`re kicked out,we can use any means to get our goals.


131 posted on 08/19/2009 6:33:20 PM PDT by nomad
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To: OldDeckHand
The chickens have come home to roost...


132 posted on 08/19/2009 6:40:14 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: joejm65

I really believe that you’re right. This reconciliation nonsense is simply another trial balloon, one of many that the WH has released in the last week to try and find SOMETHING that’ll work for them. I’ve never seen a WH look so clueless in my life.
+++++++++++++

And desperate. That’s good, and a little scary at the same time.


133 posted on 08/19/2009 7:06:56 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.

**This is a high volume ping list! (sign of the times)**


134 posted on 08/19/2009 7:14:16 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Manley should be advising Reid citizens opposed to having this death warrant become law will prevent them by any means necessary.


135 posted on 08/19/2009 7:18:10 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Freedom Watch: fight for freedom with everything you have.)
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To: MindBender26

Is it possible to impeach any congressman? I can see some well organized ‘mobs’ around the country trying that if this does go through. What does it take to impeach anyone or anything? I was young when Nixon left, and the impeachment of Clinton was nothing, actually. But none of them were ‘people-led.’ Is that even possible?


136 posted on 08/19/2009 7:24:53 PM PDT by USAHOME
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

What 2010 Election? IMO, tin-foil in place, they will stop free elections using some sort of fake-’flu-induced martial law. It is what’s up the Marxist’s sleeve.


137 posted on 08/19/2009 7:30:35 PM PDT by madison10
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To: GeronL
Why not just arrested all the GOP lawmakers on trumped up charges?

Probably on the agenda.

138 posted on 08/19/2009 7:32:06 PM PDT by madison10
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To: OldDeckHand
YouTube video of Malcom X using the phrase - "By any means necessary".

At the end of the video, he talks about the 2nd Amendment. Ironic that the self-defense he advocated was needed in the end against the very people he trusted at the beginning. But, anyhow, he used the phrase, "by any means necessary," in the context of self-defense. The Dems here are using it in the context of aggression: They will pass a bill, thus forcing us to comply "by any means necessary." I can agree with the importance of self-defense and self-preservation, even if the person calling for it hates me. But, what the Dems want to do is the opposite: whether they realize it or not, their plan will take away those rights from all people.

139 posted on 08/19/2009 7:41:21 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: OldDeckHand
They do this at their absolute politcal peril...the slumbering giant is stirring and is going to rise and slap them down...hard.


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(Must Read - Shocking, cited quotes by Emanuel)


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THE STORM UNLEASHED ON AMERICA

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140 posted on 08/19/2009 8:07:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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