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To: the invisib1e hand

>>> ...the inevitable,inexhorable historical march toward a global society? <<<

Wow. What Popper calls the “historicism” of Hegel and Marx at its purest.

How (cough-cough) Progressive of you.

Now, what does this have to do with _Caritas in Veritate_? Do you agree with my assertion that the document sees globalization as a morally neutral force that has to be tamed through Christian charity, or do you think that globalization is seen as mostly good?

There are those Freepers (me included) who see globalization taken to the point of “toothy” institutions as irredeemable and intrinsically evil. I don’t think you are addressing their/our concerns by saying they should just “bend over” to the historically inevitable and pray for the best.

>>> oy. read the Encyclical to answer your questions. <<<

I have read it. Have you?

I must say that it raises as many questions as it answers. The jargon that no one seems willing or able to define certainly contributes to that.


80 posted on 08/21/2009 9:34:43 AM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Poe White Trash
Wow. What Popper calls the “historicism” of Hegel and Marx at its purest.

please. I wouldn't know popper from topper.

Common sense, friend.

I'll bet you're anti-immigration, pro-tariff, etc. etc. because you think building a great big wall around the US is going to stop the rest of the world from marching on.

Only a hopelessly confused partisan can be so ignorant of history as to argue against the obervable fact that societies always organize into heirarchies, either benevolent or otherwise. It's as inexhorable, FRiend, as gravity, and about as inherently evil.

All the hyperbole in the world won't stop it from happening.

The Catholic has a role to play in the world around him. He understands that this is not his home, nor is his God's kingdom of this earth. He is about being salt and light wherever he is, under whatever circumstances he finds himself in.

Finally, if you're not Catholic, I wouldn't expect you to get this, although any "Christian" should: the Church is not a country. It is a kingdom of God within a kingdom of darkness. At some point the Catholic will have to choose between his country and your church -- not because the Church is against his country, but the tragic opposite. That's also an observable fact of history, and will be manifest without any ambiguity on the day when Christ returns, should you be so lucky to see that.

85 posted on 08/21/2009 12:10:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)
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