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Gynecologists in Spain plan to choose jail before performing an abortion
cna ^ | August 20, 2009

Posted on 08/20/2009 3:30:24 PM PDT by NYer

Madrid, Spain, Aug 20, 2009 / 01:55 pm (CNA).- Dr. Esteban Rodriguez, spokesman for the organization Right to Life (Derecho a Vivir) in Spain, responded yesterday to comments by the country’s Minister of Justice, Francisco Caamano, who said there was no room for a conscience clause in the new law on abortion. 

“We are willing to go to jail rather than following a criminal law, Rodriguez said, “and we are willing to commit the supposed crime of disobedience before the crime of abortion.”
 
“We will not kill our patients, nor will we commit a crime against the public health deliberately harming the heath of women, no matter how much the Minister of Justice threatens us and abuses his power,” the doctor said.
 
“We doctors are not soldiers, nor policemen, nor executioners. There is no civil disobedience in the refusal to kill a human being, but rather the fulfilling of our professional obligation,” he added.
 
If the government carries out the threat by the Minister of Justice to penalize conscientious objectors as disobedient, Rodriguez said that a “new category of victims of the laws on abortion and the regulation of conscience will be created in the gynecologists who wish to carry out their moral obligations in the face of an imposed ideology.”
 
After recalling that the statute in the Spanish constitution allowing conscientious objection must be respected, Rodriguez expressed his surprise that the law would shield from prison some doctors who have been convicted of performing illegal abortions, while punishing with prison those doctors who have fought to defend the lives of their patients and the health of women.
 
“We recommend they think about creating a new level of officials at the ministries of Justice and Equality: fetal executioners,” Dr. Rodriguez remarked.
 
“We find the totalitarian intentions of the Ministry of Justice, in conjunction with those of Equality, to be highly troubling. If the former Minister of Justice stirred things up with officials in the judiciary, this one is going to accomplish the same thing with medical professionals,” he warned.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; conscienceclause; gynecologist; moralabsolutes; prolife; righttolife; rtl; spain; tyranny

1 posted on 08/20/2009 3:30:24 PM PDT by NYer
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“We recommend they think about creating a new level of officials at the ministries of Justice and Equality: fetal executioners,” Dr. Rodriguez remarked.

The tide has turned!

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2 posted on 08/20/2009 3:31:21 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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3 posted on 08/20/2009 3:31:59 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
Spain is so predictable ~ Minister of Justice, Francisco Caamano, is just another in a long line of totalitarian slugs who believes the answer to everything is to force someone to murder someone else.

Someday maybe they'll become civilized, but at this time they are as far from it as they were in the 11th century.

4 posted on 08/20/2009 3:34:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYer
BTTT!

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5 posted on 08/20/2009 3:34:27 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer

God bless and keep those heroes! May He protect them, confound and disarm their enemies, and keep them safe!


6 posted on 08/20/2009 3:36:28 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill here! Drill NOW! Defund the EPA!)
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To: NYer

Which only proves what we already know, that it’s not about choice, it’s about a culture of death and the governments playing God in advancing it.


7 posted on 08/20/2009 3:37:26 PM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: NYer
... the law would shield from prison some doctors who have been convicted of performing illegal abortions, while punishing with prison those doctors who have fought to defend the lives of their patients and the health of women.

How sick is that!

8 posted on 08/20/2009 3:38:35 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the trolls (even those within our ranks). Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: NYer

What ever happened to Spain’s touted Catholic or Christian faith?

Good on these doctors for saying “no” and meaning it.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 3:40:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: NYer

God help them,


10 posted on 08/20/2009 3:41:39 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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“We doctors are not soldiers, nor policemen, nor executioners. There is no civil disobedience in the refusal to kill a human being, but rather the fulfilling of our professional obligation,”

This is coming here.

This will happen here. Many of us will have to find out how much courage we have, and how much certainty in our convictions we have. These men just passed the test. Our test is coming.

11 posted on 08/20/2009 3:43:29 PM PDT by marron
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To: NYer
Dr. Esteban Rodriguez, spokesman for the organization Right to Life (Derecho a Vivir) in Spain(...snip)

Please Dear God, give them the necessary strength to follow their very righteous convictions.
12 posted on 08/20/2009 3:45:11 PM PDT by AKA Elena (St Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle -- and this is war!)
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To: marron

Amen and Amen again! There is only ONE judge that these doctors need worry about, and they know it! Good on them!

I hope Tiller comes back as Jacob Marley to warn the rest!


13 posted on 08/20/2009 3:47:55 PM PDT by wombtotomb (Equal opportunity does NOT mean equal outcome!!)
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14 posted on 08/20/2009 3:54:51 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: muawiyah
Someday maybe they'll become civilized,

I believe Europe has been there and done that.

15 posted on 08/20/2009 3:57:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)
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To: marron
This is coming here.

Only if people who foresee it fail to exert their constitutionally guaranteed right and moral obligation to oppose it.

This is America, not Spain.

16 posted on 08/20/2009 3:59:42 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)
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17 posted on 08/20/2009 4:02:35 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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May He protect them, confound and disarm their enemies, and keep them safe!

Excellent point - confound their enemies. That is one prayer often neglected. Thanks for the ping and post.

18 posted on 08/20/2009 4:09:22 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
the law would shield from prison some doctors who have been convicted of performing illegal abortions, while punishing with prison those doctors who have fought to defend the lives of their patients and the health of women.

Only a demon (or a Democrat/socialist/liberal) could come up with a law would punish those who refuse to take a life and protect those who take one illegally.

19 posted on 08/20/2009 4:11:36 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: NYer

Where Obamacare will take us in 10 years if it’s passed.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 4:12:17 PM PDT by mrvirgo
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21 posted on 08/20/2009 4:13:19 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

This is why the right to keep and bear arms is absolutely essential to a free nation.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 4:19:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


23 posted on 08/20/2009 4:19:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

Doctors with integrity.

Wonderful.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 4:28:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Yes, they’re truly wonderful.

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25 posted on 08/20/2009 4:34:56 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the trolls (even those within our ranks). Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Time to do it again.


26 posted on 08/20/2009 4:37:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wombtotomb

Tiller is not coming back.


27 posted on 08/20/2009 4:38:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cpforlife.org

yea.. good for those noble “healers”..May they be safe & exonerated


28 posted on 08/20/2009 4:46:13 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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“We recommend they think about creating a new level of officials at the ministries of Justice and Equality: fetal executioners,” Dr. Rodriguez remarked.

Telling it like it is! Olé!

29 posted on 08/20/2009 6:00:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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bttt


30 posted on 08/20/2009 6:02:33 PM PDT by Guenevere
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GOD BLESS HIM!!!!


31 posted on 08/20/2009 6:04:35 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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“We will not kill our patients, nor will we commit a crime against the public health deliberately harming the heath of women, no matter how much the Minister of Justice threatens us and abuses his power,” the doctor said.

BTTT

32 posted on 08/20/2009 6:58:33 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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33 posted on 08/20/2009 6:59:11 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: NYer

The idea that the government should order gynecologists to perform abortions is simply appalling. Is this really happening in Spain?

These Spanish doctors are leaders of the Faith and should be recognized as such, not criminalized.


34 posted on 08/20/2009 7:15:02 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Great prayer, and I join you in praying for the Gynecologists in Spain who are standing up for life.


35 posted on 08/20/2009 7:33:19 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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May the good doctors be richly blessed.


36 posted on 08/20/2009 8:23:02 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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Truly beautiful people. They will get their reward.


37 posted on 08/20/2009 9:33:52 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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May God bless you doctor.


38 posted on 08/21/2009 4:06:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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“We doctors are not soldiers, nor policemen, nor executioners. There is no civil disobedience in the refusal to kill a human being, but rather the fulfilling of our professional obligation,” he added.

Bump!


39 posted on 08/21/2009 4:42:11 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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If only our own doctors would take a cue from these folks.


40 posted on 08/21/2009 7:06:02 AM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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