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DeMint And Bachmann Call On States To Collectively Fight ObamaCare If Passed
TPM ^ | 8/21/09 | Eric Kleefield

Posted on 08/21/2009 10:18:56 AM PDT by pissant

Here's another fun detail from last night's Americans For Prosperity teletown hall, which featured Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN). Both politicians said that if a health care bill passes, it should be actively fought and resisted through a collective effort of conservative governors.

A caller asked DeMint what the states could do in order to stop unconstitutional action by the federal government on health care. DeMint replied, "I think the key to pushing back against the federal government is some governors and state legislators who champion individual freedom."

DeMint said he would love to see states go to court to invoke the Tenth Amendment: "If we had some states come together and say the only way to save this country is to push back." He also added: "I think you'll see some states say no more, we're not going down with the federal government."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 111th; jimdemint; larrysinclairslover; michelebachmann; obamacare
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To: pissant

It is becoming more and more obvious that this guy (odumbo) is leading us to a war within the United States. He may be looking for control but he might as well be trying to put a leash on a grizzly.


21 posted on 08/21/2009 10:43:12 AM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: rintense

“Federal troops will not fire on their own citizens in this country, trust me. It would have to be Obama’s civilian defense force, and they would get clobbered.”

80 million Americans with some 400 million guns with ammo trumps 4 aces ;-)


22 posted on 08/21/2009 10:44:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: AnnaZ

You rock as usual!


23 posted on 08/21/2009 10:45:24 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: incredulous joe

Agreed. Looking forward to hearing her speak.


24 posted on 08/21/2009 10:46:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: pissant
Now we're talkin. The states need to make clear declarations as to precisely what is acceptable and unacceptable by the federal government. The libs will always be able to find a Constitutional justification for any program, so the 10th Amendment is meaningless unless the states fight against the encroachments.
25 posted on 08/21/2009 10:51:00 AM PDT by Perchant
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To: rintense
"DeMint And Bachmann Call On States To Collectively Fight ObamaCare If Passed"

"Obama has no idea what’s coming his way when states invoke their rights."

I agree with you. It would hold up implementation of the legislation for years and keep the matter on the front burner. I can envision at least 20 states joining in.

The GOP would probably win back both the House AND the Senate in 2010. There is no way that high black and liberal turnout would exceed the angry American traditionalists in flyover country. I expect that even in lib states like California and New York, the GOP would win statewide races.

When a Dem leader talks about post-partisanship, he'd better mean it. [Obama's talk was always all bullsh-t.] Americans are not lemming-like Germans or Brits. We are the only nation in the world where the voters will look at a politician and tell him, "you work for us!"

Frankly, I'm relieved. But after a mere six months of Obama, a holy indignation awoke the nation. Give the libs there one and only stimulus -- at least they will have done no permanent damage to the nation.

26 posted on 08/21/2009 10:55:17 AM PDT by tom h
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To: livius

From what I’m hearing, the House can pass it, but the Senate probably won’t.


27 posted on 08/21/2009 11:01:51 AM PDT by twigs
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To: incredulous joe

She’s on a lot on Bill Bennett’s morning radio show. She’s one of his favorites.


28 posted on 08/21/2009 11:04:02 AM PDT by twigs
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To: rintense

Times like this make me wish that the FEDGOV could only tax the states and not individuals.


29 posted on 08/21/2009 11:05:54 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: pissant
I forget the exact details, but I believe there is legislation currently moving thru our Arizona legislature. Personally, I'd love to see a "war" between the independent states and the Feds.

The Feds would lose with a whimper.

30 posted on 08/21/2009 11:06:17 AM PDT by kromike
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To: pissant
I'm all for it. Here's the tee shirt...


31 posted on 08/21/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: pburgh01; screaminsunshine
"The courts can blather on all day long but at the end of the day are powerless to enforce any law, they have to have the executive branch do that."

"[Obama] will cut off the Fedral Money and [the states] will fall in lockstep. They can not print it. He can."

Methinks you both need a refresher course on American History. The only, and most effective, way to block the law would be through federal courts. All it would take is one Federal District judge, suitably chosen, to suspend the law pending constitutional review. The injunction would prohibit either party from proceeding without additional review.

If Obama attempted something punitive, like punishing the claimant states, the judge could literally fine the Gov't and direct the behavior to stop. THAT is the kind of publicity that even Obama doesn't want. The judge could even hold the Cabinet members, and the President, in contempt of court.

So forgive my bluntness, but you're both wrong. The Terry Schiavo incident is not relevant here, but socialized medicine is.

Just read Wikipedia's entry on Marbury v Madison as a start. Believe it or not, a single judge can stop the entire US Government from proceeding with an unconstitutional act. In theory, that judge can also command US Marshalls to enforce his verdicts in defiance of the US Government. This is all pretty fundamental to our nation and the fact that "We the People" is the ruling principle.

32 posted on 08/21/2009 11:06:30 AM PDT by tom h
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To: rintense

I don’t think he understands the ramifications of his plan - but he IS intentionally fomenting a violent confrontation between the elitists and the individualists.

He’s looking for an excuse to use the power of the state to punish his ideological opponents, which just happens to exclude people of his own skin color.

Ooops! Did I just imply 0bama wants a race war with the government being used to kill whitey? Didn’t mean to imply that at all!


33 posted on 08/21/2009 11:08:44 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Eagle Eye

Well, in escalation, the state would collect the fed tax and use it at the state level to offset the negation of federal funding. The state would likely get more money this way anyhow.


34 posted on 08/21/2009 11:09:10 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: Perchant

Just wait until some federal court rules against a state and that state thumbs its nose at the ruling.

That’s when the SHTF.


35 posted on 08/21/2009 11:10:24 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
LOL. You're welcome. (Long time no see... =)
36 posted on 08/21/2009 11:11:56 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
This video introduced me to Bachmann. She's brave & fearless. Awesome!

We now have a total gangster gov't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIY

37 posted on 08/21/2009 11:16:56 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: rintense
xo!
38 posted on 08/21/2009 11:18:59 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: tom h

tom, you sound pretty knowledgable. How do we address The Kenyan’s growing list of “Czars” (51 now) that are unaccountable to The People & can claim Executive Privelidge when challenged in court? This is a very dangerous situation, not knowing what they are up to, behind closed doors.


39 posted on 08/21/2009 11:30:14 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: tom h

Sure then why has not one done it.


40 posted on 08/21/2009 11:58:07 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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