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Now here's one I haven't heard many people talk about.

Talk about putting two and two together! This is hugely insidious.

1 posted on 08/22/2009 2:26:51 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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healthcare ping


2 posted on 08/22/2009 2:27:11 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Moveon.AARP is really taking it in the shorts over Obamacare !)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Now here's one I haven't heard many people talk about. Talk about putting two and two together! This is hugely insidious.

maybe 'cause it's so obvious? And hugh.

3 posted on 08/22/2009 2:28:10 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Starting in less than 18 months, estates in excess of $1 million will once again be taxed at a stiff 55 percent. This will cost the children of the very wealthy tens of billions of not-so-hard-earned dollars.

Out here a wheat farm and the equipment to farm it effectively will often run (land, equipment, and other physical assets, not cash) over $1,000,000 in value. Without the economy of scale, the farm won't make money.

If the farm gets split up between the government and the heirs, it will cease to exist as a family farm. Ditto with ranches, or any family business which is successful and ties up a great deal of its value in equipment or real estate.

More war on the middle class, taking the means of production to reduce us all to serfs.

4 posted on 08/22/2009 2:39:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

yikes.

and I thought I was nuts when I wrote my post today

http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com/2009/08/toward-totus-state.html


5 posted on 08/22/2009 2:45:15 AM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I mentioned the same thing on a thread a while back. It was easy if you remember a couple of simple tenets about liberals: they crave power and control. To accomplish this they need money, pure and simple. In the end, nothing they do isn’t connected to getting their greedy paws on more of our money.


6 posted on 08/22/2009 3:02:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

So, in other words, after 2011, the government has a huge interest in dead senior citizens—not just their ability to vote, either!!!! But an actual cash interest, kind of like the poverty-stricken English monarchy claiming church property for its own!


8 posted on 08/22/2009 3:50:43 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Posted to the Not Rush Thread Tuesday...
Freepers are always ahead of the analytical curve

To: Enterprise
Death panels = quicker access to death taxes...
Dems really are the party of death.

91 posted on 08/18/2009 9:39:11 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Barak Obama: Proud Graduate of the Robert Mugabe School of Government and Economics)

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9 posted on 08/22/2009 3:54:13 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Barak Obama: Proud Graduate of the Robert Mugabe School of Government and Economics)
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A war between young and old.....fat and thin.....employed and unemployed......legal and illegal......black and white.....etc., etc. America will be a WAR ZONE.


10 posted on 08/22/2009 3:58:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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There are far more old grandmas on social security than there are old grandmas out there hovering over million dollar plus estates. ‘End of life’ care for old grandmas after a 5 year period sure would help them fix social security.

That is not to say that I discount them coveting after Americans estates and staying up all night drawing up the paperwork to get their grubby hands on whatever they can.

Some ‘god’ they have partnered up with?

14 posted on 08/22/2009 5:10:58 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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The rumor used to be that Obama was going to ask for a 3.5 Million dollar estate exemption once the Bush phase-up reverted to the old 1 million dollar limit, which is ridiculously low. We’ll see.....


15 posted on 08/22/2009 5:38:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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Not so fast Kimosabe, our esteemed (in some quarters) President has already set plans in motion to 'fix' this problem in the budget. I don't think that this has actually come to a final and binding vote yet, but since January, Obama has been working to kill the '0%' 2010 Estate Tax. The last reference to it that quotes specific figures is from April this year and has a 45% rate on everything above $3.5 million ($7 million MFJ).

Gee Wiz, just makes it hard to figure out when to die, right? No wonder Obama wants to 'help' us. After all we now have another 2 trillion dollar DEFICIT (not debt which is far bigger) to pay over the next 10 years!

16 posted on 08/22/2009 5:43:19 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I've been thinking of this as well. I imagined the ‘redistribution of wealth’ affects upon the middle class. For example: the little -white- widow would be visited by government agents to survey her assets. They could trick her into signing end of life statements. The next time she shows up sick, a death panel would consider her worth. They would deny care and cause her to die early. After she's dead, government liens and confiscates the property for a group like Black Farmers USA.
18 posted on 08/22/2009 6:21:30 AM PDT by Blu By U
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