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That should make our enemies cringe, right?

Wonder how a 200 mph plane would stand up to surface-to-air missiles? /sarc

1 posted on 08/27/2009 7:17:59 AM PDT by markomalley
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...yawn. Gates is a twit.


2 posted on 08/27/2009 7:18:57 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches over Israel will Neither Slumber nor Sleep.)
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Article starts out with blatant dishonesty, and goes downhill from there.

Par for the course over at Slime magazine, though.

3 posted on 08/27/2009 7:19:27 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Bring back the A-10 Warthog!


4 posted on 08/27/2009 7:20:52 AM PDT by SpeedRacer (Where's your records, B-HO? What are you hiding?)
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I have no doubt there is a place in our military for prop driven planes but we should also have the cutting edge technology.

Anyone who thinks we should give enemies and potential enemies a level playing field is a moron.


5 posted on 08/27/2009 7:21:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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6 posted on 08/27/2009 7:22:10 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Poor little Luddite!!
8 posted on 08/27/2009 7:23:09 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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News flash -in an effort to cut Defense spending, Obama announced Chariots to replace M-1A1 Abrams Battle Tanks.
10 posted on 08/27/2009 7:23:37 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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"The first squadron to use the A-10 went operational in October 1977. In total, 715 airplanes were produced, the last delivered in 1984"

"Cruise speed: 300 knots (340 mph, 560 km/h)"

15 posted on 08/27/2009 7:27:28 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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since no other nation is building such a plane to challenge it

(clears throat, raises hand) "How about the new MIG-35?"


20 posted on 08/27/2009 7:33:05 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Bacon,smokless powder,and boobs are proof that God loves us.)
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the skyraider was a kick ass aircraft....for the role of hunting and fighting insurgents and close ground support role, it is an excellent platform...just because it is not a jet does not render it useless by any means...i say buy a few hundred of them and turn them loose..


22 posted on 08/27/2009 7:33:35 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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most likely prop-driven — that it can use to kill insurgents today and use to train local pilots — such as Afghans or Iraqis — tomorrow.

Prop driven, really? Nice fact free article.

24 posted on 08/27/2009 7:34:42 AM PDT by Lx
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Wonder how a 200 mph plane would stand up to surface-to-air missiles?

A prop aircraft might not have enough IR signature for many man-portable SAMs to lock on.

32 posted on 08/27/2009 7:39:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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The Air Tractor...yep...thats right...the famous crop duster is being looked at for light attack and intel/time on station recon duty.

Its beating the pants of its competition.


33 posted on 08/27/2009 7:40:10 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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I hate to agree with these folks when we really DO need more F-22s...
But, when was the last time an enemy shot a SAM at us?
It doesn’t make any sense to use a $350 million F-22 for “air to mud” in an environment where we have air dominance. It DOES make sense to use a slow, cheap aircraft with a good loiter time. We need NCO pilots and something equivalent to the A-1 Skyraider for COIN air support. Another aircraft that would be perfect would be a buffed-up OV-10 Bronco.


35 posted on 08/27/2009 7:41:10 AM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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UCAVs armed with latest AAMs coupled with Raptor-like long-range look-up, look-down early detection sensors, etc.


36 posted on 08/27/2009 7:41:15 AM PDT by cranked
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We already have prop-driven aircraft being used to fight insurgents, currently being produced in large numbers. They're called Predator UAVs:


39 posted on 08/27/2009 7:45:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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Sounds like the Il-2 Sturmovik or the tank-busting version of the JU-87 Stuka. Not sure that this kind of aircraft is going to survive with radar-guided guns and MANPADS.

I guess it’s “Back to the Future” at Gates’ Pentagon.


43 posted on 08/27/2009 7:46:38 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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A modified crop duster.


48 posted on 08/27/2009 7:49:56 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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The Obama Fighter:
59 posted on 08/27/2009 7:58:13 AM PDT by sticker
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Wonder how a 200 mph plane would stand up to surface-to-air missiles? /sarc

They won't need a surface-to-air missile. At 200 MPH, the ragheads will be able to shoot them down with light automatic weapons and those 37MM Soviet anti-aircraft guns. Low and slow. They won't even make it to the target area.

It sounds to me as if Gates thinks pilots are expendable.

63 posted on 08/27/2009 7:59:20 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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