The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Catholic Church

Life Site News ^ | 8-26-09 | John-Henry Westen

[A.A. Cunningham]

so he could marry the second wife within the church..

Incorrect. Kennedy was married to Reggie in a civil ceremony in his home in McLean, VA on 3 July 1992, not in a church. There's no indication that his second marriage was a sacramental one.

Making his children bastards.

Wrong again.

[incredulous joe]

“I’m glad I’m no longer Catholic and participate in a church that steadfastly defends the life of the unborn.”

Then I was right.

[A.A. Cunningham]

The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Catholic Church

Correction: The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Archdiocese of Boston

[incredulous joe]

“maybe one day we’ll all be self righteous about Jews or some Protestant Demonination that some public official belongs to.”

Unfortunately, they won’t be held to the same standards.

Devout Catholics will have to do a penance of listening to the non-Catholics and ex-Catholics shaking their fingers at them and agitating the issue ~ acting all self-righteous and superior about their claims to being more pro-life than others and taking broadsides at decent practicing, pro-life Catholic Christians.

That’s kind of childish, and as I had predicted in my original post.

[NYer]

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[rogator]

You have no idea what Laura Bush would or would not do.
What’s with the “Irish TRASH” comment? Are we, perhaps, seeing a resurgence of !9th Century Racism?

[Mrs. Don-o]

This makes me sick. I will pray. But we're caught in a hell-designed situation where the Left leverages Kennedy's fdeah as an oranizing tool, the sexually disordered and abortion-enthusiasts trumpet his glory, while the upright, struggling with their sense of outraged decency, are silenced with nil nisi bonum.

[Mrs. Don-o]

“Bastard” is a term not found in canon law or Catholic tradition. The Church uses the phrase “natural child.”

[nanetteclaret]

The question is not of a civil marriage, which confers legitimacy on the children, but of a sacramental marriage. They are two entirely different things. One is a true marriage, with Christ at the center, the two people intending to be married forever and accepting children as the fruit of the marriage. The other is merely a shacking up, made legal by the laws of the land.

[Mr. Wright]

Divorced? Pro Abortion? I thought this guy had been excommunicated years ago. What is wrong with the Catholic
heirarchy? Were they bought off like Dominic Arena and the Kopechne’s?

[Mr. Wright]

Divorced? Pro Abortion? I thought this guy had been excommunicated years ago. What is wrong with the Catholic
heirarchy? Were they bought off like Dominic Arena and the Kopechne’s?

[Mr. Wright]

Divorced? Pro Abortion? I thought this guy had been excommunicated years ago. What is wrong with the Catholic
heirarchy? Were they bought off like Dominic Arena and the Kopechne’s?

[maryz]

“Bastard” is a legal category, not a church one. A church annulment has no effect on the legal status of children.

[maryz]

I'm from Boston and there has been no mention in the local media of who will be saying the Mass. Also, I go to daily Mass, and there has been no mention of Kennedy this week (three different priests), not offering the Mass for him, no mention by name in the Petitions -- though the pastor did offer one petition that politicians who claim to be Christian should start acting that way. (I think our pastor is fairly close to the Cardinal; he holds some kind of Archdiocese position in addition to being our pastor.)

The funeral Mass is to be at Mission Church, and I'm unclear as to its status within the Archdiocese. It does function as a parish, with parish boundaries, but it's not staffed by diocesan priests -- it's always been staffed by the Redemptorists, and I wonder if the Order actually has ownership rights.

[Desdemona]

The funeral Mass is to be at Mission Church, and I'm unclear as to its status within the Archdiocese. It does function as a parish, with parish boundaries, but it's not staffed by diocesan priests -- it's always been staffed by the Redemptorists, and I wonder if the Order actually has ownership rights.

Ahhh, I wondered about that. The MSM would never report such a thing because they don't quite understand the difference. That makes more sense. I'm somewhat surprised that it's the Redemptorists rather than the Jesuits, though.

[Happyinmygarden]

“You’re no longer Catholic so why do you even care what happens in the Catholic Church?”

I can’t say that I do care, actually, but it is a shame that an organization with such enormous influence and power can’t unit on such a basic issue (that they claim is a tenet of their faith) and use their power for good. Think of the enormously impressive results if they ‘put their foot down’ and stuck to it.

[maryz]

Also, Cardinal Seán's Blog has no mention of him -- though there is an entry for The legacy of Eunice Kennedy Shriver. Hmmm . . .

[Desdemona]

Well, if it's any consolation, if you consider that a public official of over 40 years generally is buried from a Cathedral with the bishop or archbishop presiding, and Teddy is being buried from a parish, NOT the cathedral, run by the Redemptorists, who are, well the Redemptorists who are not under the authority of the local ordinary - Ted Kennedy just got dissed by the Church. No Cathedral, no Sean Cardinal O’Malley - no JESUITS??????? For the family that kept them in the news for so many years? Yeah, it's not subtle. The official Church does not approve.

[Desdemona]

See my post #78. With no Mass at the cathedral and the archbishop not in attendance for a public official...yeah, not even subtle. I assume the Redemptorists there are the same as they are here - do what they want and the archdiocese considers it a place to stash the revolutionaries.

[maryz]

I don't know much about them -- not anything really, except for their connection with Mission, which is, incidentally, a huge and very beautiful church.

It just struck me that maybe Kennedy's being buried in Arlington because, well, I believe the Catholic cemeteries here are owned by the Archdiocese!